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MacBook Pro First Impressions: A Lightweight 'Engineering Marvel' With Beautiful Screen
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I admit that the touch bar might be useful. All first impressions seem to be based on diving into one app and use it there. I spend 4 to 6 hours a day in my computer switching between Pages, Preview, Excel, Stata, LaTeX, and Safari. It gets overwhelming at times on my screen. The last thing I want is something else moving around as I switch applications. Something that I am sure I'm barely going to use.
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I'm guessing it's going to be exactly like 3D touch on the iPhone. People don't use it 99% of the time, except for that particular command that really gets used all the time.
For example, I only use 3D touch to switch between New Tab and New Private Tab in Safari, check showtimes in iMDb, and switch apps. I don't use it for anything else. I bet TouchBar is going to be exactly the same
That's ok for 3D touch because it's hidden, and does not interfere with existing functionalities. Can't say the same thing about the TouchBar, though
You lie in bed, with your laptop on your nightstand, turn your head and watch a movie?.
I agree on most part, but I think removing the 3.5mm on the iPhone 7 makes much more sense then removing it from a laptop. To make more space for internals and make it waterproof. I am one of these who doesn't give a crap about it anyway as I am sick of untangling wires and have gone bt for the last 2 years and quite happy, but I do understand that different people have different needs. I would not use it on laptops either so if I was buying a MacBook Pro I would still use wireless. And I think the future MacBook won't have any 3.5mm jack.
I'm not suggesting there are no bodies used by pros that don't use SD cards, I use D810's myself so that would be ludicrous. SD is by far the most popular format so I know why they offered that as a slot. In either case I subscribe to the idea that a professional will use whatever equipment they need to get the job at hand done, regardless of how it is marketed
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If we are to assume the MacBook Pro is for professionals then it should also be considered that a professional photographer would only use a 'professional' camera, in which case you'd be using CF, CFast 2.0 or XQD as the flagship DSLR's don't use SD anyway.
The point I was trying to facetiously make with the inverted comas was that flagship DSLR's are the ones which many, inaccurately, assume and consider to be the true pro bodies (although for certain genres of photography are essential, such as sport) yet Apples flagship laptop has never been compatible with any flagship DSLR's memory cards out of the box anyway...and that includes the time that CF was the only card type available in DSLRs.
I probably should have replaced professional with flagship and also added:
...then in theory it should also be considered...
So, apologies if the point I was trying to make was lost or not made clear - but I still don't get why any photographer would abandon a laptop purely based on having to start using a card reader. Don't get me started on the pricing in the UK though, now that IS something to complain about!
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At least someone has https://www.amazon.com/Griffin-BreakSafe-Breakaway-Chromebook-replacement/dp/B01CQTK6GU
Oops, sorry, someone else already posted this.
In any case, I'm sure there will be lots of these different options soon. I also saw a small adapter as well. Yes, it's one more thing to buy, but if magsafe is truly important...
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Go to the spec page. It is clearly NVMe.
You spotted a typo in the purchase page. It is clearly NVMe in the spec page
http://store.hp.com/us/en/mdp/Laptops/envy-13
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If only there was a wireless option that would work with all my devices...
Touch bar aside, and arguable as well, the only INNOVATION in this thing comes from Intel and AMD.
Thank you Intel and AMD, for continuing to innovate allowing Apple to cram more power and performance into a box they keep making thinner and thinner every release because of your efforts. If it wasn't for the efforts of 3rd party OEM's, Apple's MacBooks wouldn't be where they are today.
Thank you Intel and AMD, for continuing to innovate allowing Apple to cram more power and performance into a box they keep making thinner and thinner every release because of your efforts. If it wasn't for the efforts of 3rd party OEM's, Apple's MacBooks wouldn't be where they are today.
Yes, Canon and Nikon's full frame cameras take both CF and SD cards but most pros I know use the CF slot as their primary card and the SD slot as a backup/jpeg preview (if at all). CF is still quite a bit faster than SD (other than UHS-II which is new and pricey) so it makes sense to write your large raw images to a faster CF card.
Quad Core Kaby Lake is coming in January.
There's a reason why Dell is waiting until then to update the XPS15 - it's catching the wave for both Intel and Nvidia releases.
When your core components are 3rd party... you need to be in sync with them. That's especially true when you have a 2 year update cycle.
Apple owners are being put into an absurd position where there are now multiple high-end manufacturers on 9/12 month update cycles... so when the next Mac update comes, it's likely the Dell XPS will be THREE generations further along (Jan16/Jan17/Jan18)! And the current model is already more technically advanced! And cheaper! And has updateable RAM!
This is totally untenable for what was once the best-of-the-best, with a price to match.
We are entering the age of the hackintosh.
Makes sense now. Even the pricing here in the US is ridiculous, I can only imagine what you guys are feeling after BREXIT tax + Apple Tax combined!!I'm not suggesting there are no bodies used by pros that don't use SD cards, I use D810's myself so that would be ludicrous. SD is by far the most popular format so I know why they offered that as a slot. In either case I subscribe to the idea that a professional will use whatever equipment they need to get the job at hand done, regardless of how it is marketed
I said:
If we are to assume the MacBook Pro is for professionals then it should also be considered that a professional photographer would only use a 'professional' camera, in which case you'd be using CF, CFast 2.0 or XQD as the flagship DSLR's don't use SD anyway.
The point I was trying to facetiously make with the inverted comas was that flagship DSLR's are the ones which many, inaccurately, assume and consider to be the true pro bodies (although for certain genres of photography are essential, such as sport) yet Apples flagship laptop has never been compatible with any flagship DSLR's memory cards out of the box anyway...and that includes the time that CF was the only card type available in DSLRs.
I probably should have replaced professional with flagship and also added:
...then in theory it should also be considered...
So, apologies if the point I was trying to make was lost or not made clear - but I still don't get why any photographer would abandon a laptop purely based on having to start using a card reader. Don't get me started on the pricing in the UK though, now that IS something to complain about!
You're clearly not a "professional". Professionals attach their peripherals through sheer force of will.
I am waiting for a standalone keyboard with the touch bar...it will happen. I predict maybe in 2017. They released the MacBook with the scissor mechanism in early 2015 and by late 2015, they had the new keyboard with it (same with the trackpad). Why just kill off the function keys on the MacBook Pro? Also the space that is taken up by the function keys seems wider on the keyboard than it is on the laptop. That could mean a larger touch bar.
Welcome to an internet message board where all things will eventually devolve into Nazis.
So from what I am reading, a lot in the Apple community are pretty upset with the new MacBook Pro. I have seen comments about them removing the headphone jack from the iPhone 7 series but keeping it on the MacBook Pro. So lets start with that: Comparing a smartphone and a Pro laptop is like comparing Apples and Oranges. Many pro users still need that jack to attach equipment so I guess they decided at this point, removing it from their Pro line is pre-mature. Perhaps that will change with time. The second big complaint is the price. While the price is a little steep, it is a brand new product with a pretty innovative feature. I truly think that others will copy this and it will become a standard and expected feature of any laptop. As time goes on, it will get less expensive and more useful. However, that takes time. Lets not forget when Apple introduced the MacBook Air in 2008 how useless and niche it seemed. Two years later, it was updated and made less expensive and all of a sudden, it became the new standard. This feels like that to me. So in conclusion, Apple is still innovating and moving the world forward, in my opinion. I am literally drooling over this new MacBook Pro but unfortunately, I will have to wait since I just bought an iMac and that combined with my iPad serves both my personal and portable computing needs.
More proof that people are sheep ...
The Wide Color displays on the new MacBook Pros support 10-bit color, including 10-bit Wide Color.
The two "wide color" LG Ultrafine Displays announced yesterday also support the same.
This is actually THE BIG NEWS from yesterday, but missed by ALL the so-called Experts !
10-bit = 1.07B colors, vs 8-bit = 16.8M colors.
The Wide Color displays on the new MacBook Pros support 10-bit color, including 10-bit Wide Color.
The two "wide color" LG Ultrafine Displays announced yesterday also support the same.
This is actually THE BIG NEWS from yesterday, but missed by ALL the so-called Experts !
10-bit = 1.07B colors, vs 8-bit = 16.8M colors.
Not really trying to lecture. I am simply expressing my opinion, as many others have done before me.
Based on the presentation yesterday, the new MBPs look fine. The main issue I have is pricing - $2399 for 16 GB/256 seems exorbitant in this day and age, particularly when the new "feature" won't be terribly useful to a lot of people. So I'll continue on with my Mid-2014 base 15". If the new one had been $1999, I would order one. But I don't see $400 of value in the new design, particularly two and a half years later.
Yes the new MacBook has a 3.5mm audio jack, just after Apple got done telling everyone last month the 3.5mm jack is a 50 year old Dinosaur technology and should be abandoned.
Part of Apple's justification for removing the 3.5mm jack from the iPhone was their claim that the sound quality for Lightning connected headphones is far superior, which is total garbage as evidenced by the fact that ultra high end headphones used by professional audio engineers and DJs all use a wired (3.5mm or 6.35mm) connection, but I will concede Apples "Lighting quality" claim for the moment to make my point.
Apple, through the comments/speeches/interviews of their senior executives, makes forward looking statements of future trends to influence consumer buying decisions. By telling people the 3.5mm is a Dinosaur and removing it from the iPhone while touting Lightning connected headphones as far superior, some consumers follow that "recommendation".
So following Apple's comments last month that the 3.5mm connector is a Dinosaur and Lighting is far superior, some consumers started to purchase Lighting connected headphones (no I am not talking about the free Lightning earbuds included with the iPhone 7).
Now those people who just purchased these so-called high quality Lighting connected headphones can't use them on the new MacBook because Apple's claim of "courage" to remove the 3.5mm jack from the iPhone apparently did not include removing the 3.5mm jack from the new MacBook in favor of a Lighting connector. Since there is no USB-C (male) to Lighting (female) adapter, those fancy new Lighting connected headphones are now totally useless with the new MacBook.
Many thanks, Geurt. Ha, yeah, a few cracks. And the cracks are second round - have replaced the screen and keyboard facings once. (Got a free post-AppleCare replacement of them (LOVE Apple's service!) due to Apple believing the little feet at the top of the screen kept slamming into the keyboard facing with repeated opening and closing and cracking the casing.) And I have to tape my battery in, because the locking mechanism isn't perfectly seated anymore. I use this thing literally everyday, throughout the day. Love my Mac.
Yep, I'm well aware of the software upgrade situation. That's one of the points I was making. Since I began to feel the new MBP was lacking, the fact that I would also have to make that software investment only adds to my hesitation. My current operating/software setup still works. I'm still fully functional. I was, however, more than willing to work through software and peripherals growing pains, now that I'm ready to take the plunge. But I just can't get past the fact that Apple didn't put in the latest of those Big Three I mentioned - CPU, GPU, RAM. Again, to me, those three things are utterly, completely, and only what make a computer a computer. Literally everything else is window dressing (memory can be added externally/cloud, external keyboards, wireless mice, etc., etc.).
I will definitely move forward and look at other options. Thanks much, Geurt. I'll take a look at the 12-incher. Though, since this is my only computer, I'd prefer at least 13".
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Yes, and I totally agree with Apple on that one. I think it is dinosaur tech and tech companies have been sleeping their lazy ass far too long on this one. And I don't think it's about lighting to earphones, it's about totally wireless and can't wait to be wire free. Don't give a toos about so called professionals with their big statements saying how 3.5 is so great. I am all up for wireless if it sounds good on my ears, and not having to spend hours untangling wires is a huge bonus for me.
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