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Macbook Pro Issue Update (batteries, heat, whine)...
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I also agree that all these problems should have been fixed before it came out. Or even at least by now. I just bought my MBP and it will be waiting for me at home some time today and now i'm worried that i will have all these problems.
Thankfully i got a standard one so it might be easier to return it. Ugh...
Thankfully i got a standard one so it might be easier to return it. Ugh...
I am quite a late switcher, only been a Mac user for 15 months. I did not switch for any other reason than to use OS X.
Where i live, there are very few people who use Mac. Everyone has an iPod, but noone has a Mac.
I took the plunge and bought a PowerBook 1.67 to get my through my Video degree as i'd been using iMovie (very early days) and moved onto FCP. It has been incredible. Fast, efficient, reliable and the build quality is outstanding, and i cannot believe it took me so long to become a Mac user.
I am slightly worried, that Apple has gone so far up it's own A$$ that we will see a downward spiral of quality control for Macs that follow. Apple got high on the iPod success, and i think this could damage them. They need these Intel Macs to be perfect. They should concentrate on the computer side of Apple, or make the iPod a sister company to Apple. I just feel they need to concentrate more on what they started out producing.
I am worried that unless the MacBook Pro/MacBook is perfect, i will have to think twice about future Apple computers, which is something i never thought i would have to do.
Rich.
Where i live, there are very few people who use Mac. Everyone has an iPod, but noone has a Mac.
I took the plunge and bought a PowerBook 1.67 to get my through my Video degree as i'd been using iMovie (very early days) and moved onto FCP. It has been incredible. Fast, efficient, reliable and the build quality is outstanding, and i cannot believe it took me so long to become a Mac user.
I am slightly worried, that Apple has gone so far up it's own A$$ that we will see a downward spiral of quality control for Macs that follow. Apple got high on the iPod success, and i think this could damage them. They need these Intel Macs to be perfect. They should concentrate on the computer side of Apple, or make the iPod a sister company to Apple. I just feel they need to concentrate more on what they started out producing.
I am worried that unless the MacBook Pro/MacBook is perfect, i will have to think twice about future Apple computers, which is something i never thought i would have to do.
Rich.
Staffroomer said:I'm sure somebody else has already said this. But never buy first generation.. Duh...
What about the eMac with it's problems now? Also a later generation Powerbook had horizontal lines on the screen.
Perhaps it is a Revision A assembly worker or enginneer.
fatsoforgotso said:
Well unfortunately I don't speak Welsh even though I live here. LOL.
I translated what you wrote and it came up with this.
"Me Macintosh crookedly wonderful. Plea you are being you ' heartburn live."
MY MBP has a very slight whine from time to time, but nothing very serious at all. Its a 2nd generation or set out from the factory or however you want to say it,
However it does get hot to the toch, and if your wearing shorts or basketball shorts on the couch and it touches your skin... well it does feel really hot, Not comfortable at all. But with clothes on its not really that bad, it can get a lil bad but a few more papers over ur jeans on ur lap to the trick just fine.
Battery Issue: Found a slight fix. One of the PPC apps that ran in the background that i installed actually messed up my system prefrences somehow and made my perfectly good working battery die at around 2:30 hrs. I found this out because my MBP would not show 3:30 hrs with the battiers in the Apple Store computers that did. Once I "updated" (I didnt do a clean sweep) of the OS from the Installer Disk, it worked out just fine.
EDIT: (If you "update" your OS with the Installer CD some of the apps can have their fonts messed up from installing/reistalling and such)
However it does get hot to the toch, and if your wearing shorts or basketball shorts on the couch and it touches your skin... well it does feel really hot, Not comfortable at all. But with clothes on its not really that bad, it can get a lil bad but a few more papers over ur jeans on ur lap to the trick just fine.
Battery Issue: Found a slight fix. One of the PPC apps that ran in the background that i installed actually messed up my system prefrences somehow and made my perfectly good working battery die at around 2:30 hrs. I found this out because my MBP would not show 3:30 hrs with the battiers in the Apple Store computers that did. Once I "updated" (I didnt do a clean sweep) of the OS from the Installer Disk, it worked out just fine.
EDIT: (If you "update" your OS with the Installer CD some of the apps can have their fonts messed up from installing/reistalling and such)
Macrumors said:
Some users fed up with their whining Macbook Pro's are massing to all call Apple's support numbers on Saturday, May 20th.
Ummm, ok if you want to stay on hold for 2 hours and prevent people with critical problems from getting through, go right ahead. It's not like Apple's going to staff up for that one day.
edited for insults
All I know is that Apple Legal doesn't stand a chance against SA.com's Leonard J. Crabs. That guy has never lost a case.
Rocket Rion said:
how are you going to tell someone that who just dropped at least 2500 dollars on a new machine?
If nobody buys Rev As and then none of the problems and kinks get worked out for future revolutions.Staffroomer said:I'm sure somebody else has already said this. But never buy first generation.. Duh...
MOD EDIT: I don't think your logic is accurate
If a company releases a product it should work no matter what Rev it is.
I do hope all this gets resolved quickly for MBP owners - I feel for them (oh, God, believe me, I do).
At the end of the day, I'm glad I have the last PPC PowerBook and will have the last PPC Power Mac - in the meantime Apple can get all the bugs out and I can upgrade with revision b's or c's.
Good luck, everyone.
At the end of the day, I'm glad I have the last PPC PowerBook and will have the last PPC Power Mac - in the meantime Apple can get all the bugs out and I can upgrade with revision b's or c's.
Good luck, everyone.
I have one of the very first MBP's to be made (according to my SN). I use it several hours a day and have yet to experience any problems with it.
Say a little prayer for me....
Oh man... I just ordered a MBP this Tuesday, waiting for it to ship. I've been reading about all the problems but decided to take the plunge anyways, as things seemed to have been getting better.... and I couldn't wait any longer.
Now I'm just hoping that I'm one of the lucky ones.... I'll let you all know...
Oh man... I just ordered a MBP this Tuesday, waiting for it to ship. I've been reading about all the problems but decided to take the plunge anyways, as things seemed to have been getting better.... and I couldn't wait any longer.
Now I'm just hoping that I'm one of the lucky ones.... I'll let you all know...
Constructive Steps
First, does anyone know what the official Apple word is on addressing this issue? Has Apple acknowledged that their technical manual for internal tech staff needs to be updated so that users who try to geth their MBP fixed don't get the PC back with the same problem?
Second, in light of the advice not to buy Revision A hardware, does anyone have a sense of how long it takes before rev. B comes out? I was looking at buying an iBook when it came out, but I'm wondering if I wouldn't be smarter to wait for rev. B 2-6 months later.
First, does anyone know what the official Apple word is on addressing this issue? Has Apple acknowledged that their technical manual for internal tech staff needs to be updated so that users who try to geth their MBP fixed don't get the PC back with the same problem?
Second, in light of the advice not to buy Revision A hardware, does anyone have a sense of how long it takes before rev. B comes out? I was looking at buying an iBook when it came out, but I'm wondering if I wouldn't be smarter to wait for rev. B 2-6 months later.
Mindcrime said:
No doubt. He tore a few companies a new one, and provided excellent counsel during LowTax's Ultimate Warrior legal issue last year.
http://www.somethingawful.com/articles.php?a=2790
Interesting that the Apple lawyer doesn't bother using Apple Mail, but instead insists on using MS Entourage.
mtlMacTiger said:
I just ordered mine yesterday, hopefully it won't have any of the problems, I just couldn't wait anymore to get one, lol
Got the 15 inch one even though the 17 is cheaper, 17 is just too big to carry around for me. Upgraded everything to max except the memory, can be upgraded later for cheap.
well i sure that they fix these issues, and fast. i think Apple is a great company, and will do their best to fix the issues
Personally, I am exciting to buy the new 17", and I generally buy the latest generation once it has been announced.
But no longer. The Mac mini (Intel) had the bluetooth and wireless problems. My last gen 17" PB has an inconsistent screen--brighter, but worse than the previous revision I owned--and is poorly built. It is not a good assembly...even the Apple Genius noticed.
I don't know what the hell is going on with Apple, but someone in Vendor Management or QA or Manufacturing needs to come down harder on the Chinese companies who are doing the assembly and the Apple employees who are doing the QA.
Did they not notice the heat?
Did they not notice the crappy screens?
Did they not notice the terrible wireless access?
It's either neglect or imcompetence. And either works for Dell or HP, but Apple sells a premium product, and we pay for more.
And so, I wait to read the reviews before I buy the new 17". Sure, I am just one customer, but that's how big trends, especially company death spirals, are born.
But no longer. The Mac mini (Intel) had the bluetooth and wireless problems. My last gen 17" PB has an inconsistent screen--brighter, but worse than the previous revision I owned--and is poorly built. It is not a good assembly...even the Apple Genius noticed.
I don't know what the hell is going on with Apple, but someone in Vendor Management or QA or Manufacturing needs to come down harder on the Chinese companies who are doing the assembly and the Apple employees who are doing the QA.
Did they not notice the heat?
Did they not notice the crappy screens?
Did they not notice the terrible wireless access?
It's either neglect or imcompetence. And either works for Dell or HP, but Apple sells a premium product, and we pay for more.
And so, I wait to read the reviews before I buy the new 17". Sure, I am just one customer, but that's how big trends, especially company death spirals, are born.
Theres nowt wrong with mine. Maybe when it's quiet it does make a little wine, but some updates seemed of taken care of that. I never really heard the whine anyway. My workplace is noisy and I'm usually playing music on it when I'm working anyway. The nicest Pro Apple notebook I'v ever had.
I just got a W8615 15" MBP, and I think I might have the whine, but I'm not sure.
It's on the right side of the machine, near to the DVD drive. It sounds almost like a fan spinning (almost a grinding, but not a scary grinding), and isn't constant. I noticed it first my second day owning it, before I'd even put anything in the DVD drive. It seems to happen more when I'm making heavy use of the hard drive.
Any thoughts?
It's on the right side of the machine, near to the DVD drive. It sounds almost like a fan spinning (almost a grinding, but not a scary grinding), and isn't constant. I noticed it first my second day owning it, before I'd even put anything in the DVD drive. It seems to happen more when I'm making heavy use of the hard drive.
Any thoughts?