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MacBook Pro Lineup Set For 'Most Significant Overhaul in Over 4 Years'

So is there going to be a headphone jack?

(I kid, I kid!!!)

Looks like a potentially decent update. Hopefully there are more ports than just the USB-C...the article the article was worded it made it seem like USB-C was in addition to other ports.
 
Mark-Technology said:
God I hope so. The bezels on the iMac are so bad, the MBP are pretty bad too, just make it edge to edge or closer. Would look so sleek. I understand why they are there, but do they have to be so ****ing big still.
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Bear in mind that smaller bezels at the same screen size would also result in a smaller body, meaning less space for battery, other internals and also reducing the speaker size (and hence quality) either side of the keyboard.
 
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DMVillain said:
Didn't Apple JUST tell us we don't need computers? :confused:
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Apple is telling us that the iPad Pro can be a computer for some/most people. Heck, I'm what you would probably call a "power user" of computers and I'm using an iPad Pro as my main machine now. But what Apple has never said is that the iPad Pro is the only computer anyone needs. I still need a Mac/PC for some functions at work. The thing that's changed is that now that I have an iPad Pro, I really don't care what computer my company issues me to do those couple of tasks I need a computer for. There's literally only one thing left that I do with computers that can't be done on an iPad and that's because it's a Flash based task with no app or HTML 5 option.
 
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redheeler said:
This I don't agree with. The 2012 non-Retina is now behind in many areas, and you're still stuck at a 16 GB limit which the 15" rMBP comes standard with (and is available BTO on the 13").
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It is better;
  • DVD drive can be removed giving you an additional bay to insert a secondary drive (2tb max storage per drive)
  • Battery can be removed and replaced with ease
  • screen came with a matte finish option that didn't act as a mirror like the new glossy ones
  • GPU and CPU are not all that far behind in performance even after 4 years (check geekbench)
  • the parts inside aren't as disposable as the new one, you can remove/replace many of the components if need be
  • And most importantly, the RAM modules can be upgraded, Crucial makes single 16gb dimms, so you can get up to 32gb of RAM whereas the current MacBooks are maxed out at 16gb thanks to the soldered RAM.
But that's Apple's whole philosophy now with their products; make something that is GREAT and is perfectly reliable and easy to use far more than the competition but then give it a major drawback but sell it at 3X the price. It just so happens that the drawback these days is the fact that it's disposable seeing how you can't upgrade / swap any of the internal components.

Apple's essentially spitting in the face of all of it's consumers but nobody seems to mind.
 
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I don't need thinner, I need beefier. Make it bigger and give us more, not less. I'd really like to see a workstation class laptop, with features you just wouldn't find in a typical laptop.

I feel like they're trying to blur the line between the iPad Pro and Laptop line.
 
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They shouldn't bother, whatever they release won't be good enough and have people moaning and demanding Apple make them a machine to their own desired specification.

People are so sure Apple are no longer developing anything other than watch straps anyway, they should just give up - they are of course 'doomed' anyway!
 
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Thin, thin, thin. Even the graphics card has to be thinner. For a Mac Book PRO I want features and ports. Granted my MBP is provided by work but for development it could us more ports for sure. I end up needed a USB hub just to get started.

I don't use the keyboard on the laptop. I use an external keyboard because I like having a full numeric keypad along with all the HOME / END / PG UP / PG DN keys that I use all the time.

I really wish they would bring back a 17" model where they could toss in more keys on the keyboard.

My personal luck with AMD graphics cards has not been good. I think the hardware is probably solid, it has always been the drivers that have screwed me over. Not looking forward to dealing with that aspect of AMD life.
 
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bladerunner2000 said:
It is better;
  • DVD drive can be removed giving you an additional bay to insert a secondary drive (2tb max storage per drive)
  • Battery can be removed and replaced with ease
  • screen came with a matte finish option that didn't act as a mirror like the new glossy ones
  • GPU and CPU are not all that far behind in performance even after 4 years (check geekbench)
  • the parts inside aren't as disposable as the new one, you can remove/replace many of the components if need be
But that's Apple's whole philosophy now with their products; make something that is GREAT and is perfectly reliable and easy to use far more than the competition but then give it a major drawback but sell it at 3X the price. It just so happens that the drawback these days is the fact that it's disposable seeing how you can't upgrade / swap any of the internal components.

Apple's essentially spitting in the face of all of it's consumers but nobody seems to mind.
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Which entirely modular 2016 notebook would you suggest as an alternative ?
 
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I seriously hope they will update their entire Mac line that uses GPU's with this update. So new buyers can get the Polaris GPU card in new iMacs and Mac Pros etc.
 
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pgwalsh said:
I don't need thinner, I need beefier. Make it bigger and give us more, not less. I'd really like to see a workstation class laptop, with features you just wouldn't find in a typical laptop.

I feel like they're trying to blur the line between the iPad Pro and Laptop line.
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I'm sure Apple knows that most consumers don't give a damn about things being thinner anymore. Problem is;

Apple doesn't respect you or it's other consumers.
 
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bladerunner2000 said:
If the RAM is still soldered and the battery glued and non-removable, it's still a failure and the best MacBook is still the 2012 non-retina model.
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Removable battery! are we living in 2001? These are not dell laptops here. There are zero concerns with apple laptop battery life, in fact the whole laptop industry improved after apple started getting 12 hour battery life. They actually keep their performance rather well.
 
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ValO said:
Sjeez, everybody was screaming for a new MacBook Pro . Now that it is in sight, most of you are just wining....
If Apple would have released a MacBook Pro with just updated internals and the same design, it wouldn' t be ok. Now there is talk of a new design and updated hw. Still neh neh neh....
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When you've been on this forum for a while you get to know who to ignore - no matter what Apple propose they won't be happy.
 
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redheeler said:
If it only has USB-C, no less than five standards (MagSafe, USB-A, HDMI, Mini DisplayPort/Thunderbolt 2, SD card slot)
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Well, before there hasn't been a single port that provides a credible alternative to all of those in one go. I'm sure the ultimate target is to go all USB-C/TB3. I'd speculate that the alternatives are:

(a) 1 x USB-C/TB3 and nothing else, a la 12" Macbook (Bleh! It's Dell's lucky day!)
(b) 2 x USB-C/TB3 in place of Thunderbolt 2 - and that's your lot (I'd find that... disappointing)
(c) 2 x USB-C/TB3 + some legacy ports, inc. at least one USB-A for when someone hands you a stick (now we're cooking with gas)
(d) 4 x USB-C/TB3 + nothing else (The way of the future probably, but maybe not this year - currently they'd need two discrete Thunderbolt controllers on board to do this, but the next generation "Kaby Lake" CPUs are going to have USB-C/Thunderbolt on-chip so they'd only need the one discrete controller.
(e) Keep Thunderbolt 2/miniDP (it could happen: you can count the number of TB3 devices on the market on the toes of a boxing glove, you need a chunky $100 adapter to connect TB1/2 devices to a TB3 port and AFAIK that doesn't do MiniDisplayPort legacy mode so your VGA/DVI/HDMI adapters won't work.

The fact that the rumored cases aren't tapered might be good news for the number/range of ports. There were rumors of 14" MacBook-style machines, too: if those just have a single/dual USB-C port then there's a clear MacBook/MacBook Pro distinction.

(I have a sneaking feeling that the MacBook Pro prices might go up, too).

scottishwildcat said:
Looks like we'd now have to swap between two different displays for using the Function keys and controlling the volume.
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The ESC key is on that row too - I feel a great disturbance in the Force, as if a dozen EMACS users cried out in horror and were silenced...

Well, the function keys already double as multimedia keys - so you need a modifier key anyway. Also, remember that the mock-up photo is pure speculation. I'm sure function key emulation will be one mode - hopefully you'll be able to do custom configs and/or it will be easy for software to add support.
 
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So Gurman says the new MBPs aren't scheduled to be announced at the same event as the new iPhones. If it's a complete redesign then I can't imagine it just being an update via press release. Perhaps Apple is planning two events then? One for iPhone and Watch and another for Mac and iPad?
 
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Mark-Technology said:
What's with all the boners for touchscreen. It's so stupid on a laptop, especially a Mac where the trackpad is so freakin good already. But if you like getting smudges on your screen, go right ahead.
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Because some of us prefer to join modern times and not rely on a mouse and or trackpad.

Much like I don't have smudges on my iPhone, my surface isn't prone to smudges either. Perhaps on cheap computers yes but apple isn't a cheap computer. Might want to try a better argument.

My surface book and surface pro are amazing with touch screens and I can't imagine going to an OS that doesn't
 
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