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Two updates in one year PLUS the second one being a total redesign. That has not happened before. The M4 pro models will be stupidly good deals in Jan 2027. They will replace the M1 as the no brainer performant baseline for this next generation of computing.
 
Two updates in one year PLUS the second one being a total redesign. That has not happened before. The M4 pro models will be stupidly good deals in Jan 2027. They will replace the M1 as the no brainer performant baseline for this next generation of computing.
2020-2021 13" MacBook Pro anyone?

May 2020: Minor spec-bump of Intel MBP.
November 2020: Apple Silicon (M1) update, same form-factor.
October 2021: Complete redesign (to 14",) M1 Pro/Max update.

If you bought a MacBook Pro in October 2020 - a model updated only 5 months prior, one year later was two updates, including TWO *MASSIVE* computing boosts and a complete redesign. (M1 was huge leap over Intel, M1 Max was huge leap over M1, at least for GPU. Still a decent leap for CPU.)
 
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2020-2021 13" MacBook Pro anyone?

May 2020: Minor spec-bump of Intel MBP.
November 2020: Apple Silicon (M1) update, same form-factor.
October 2021: Complete redesign (to 14",) M1 Pro/Max update.

If you bought a MacBook Pro in October 2020 - a model updated only 5 months prior, one year later was two updates, including TWO *MASSIVE* computing boosts and a complete redesign. (M1 was huge leap over Intel, M1 Max was huge leap over M1, at least for GPU. Still a decent leap for CPU.)
Ohh good point. Slightly different scenario but still good point. Nobody was excited about that May 2020 13" those things sucked.
 
And that’s for a good reason. Once Tandem OLED launches it will make the old miniLED panels obsolete instantly. I wouldn’t buy another miniLED Macbook no matter the savings if an OLED version exists.
 
why buy from a company if you think this is truly their motivation for engineering new devices? 🙈

Are you considering of the way manufacturing works, like line setup? It seems you truly are just hazarding a guess
I’m sorry this is a little confusing. I think Apple’s motivation is to make great product products that I will want to buy as soon as humanly possible and that’s precisely why I’m their customer. Are you under the impression they are a nonprofit who does not want to make money off of you?
 
Im guessing it does. They want to push that upgrade button on the M1 owners.
I'm sure at some point, they'll do like they did with both the PowerPC and Intel transitions - and abandon the first-generation early.

NuBus-based first-gen Power Macs couldn't run newer than Mac OS 9.1, and loading alternate OSes on it was an absolute nightmare compared to the second-ten PCI-based. (Plus the 601 CPU was pretty trash compared to even the "low-end-consumer" 603, much less the higher-end 604.)

First-gen Intel running Core Solo/Duo (32-bit!) got left behind only two updates later. Launched with 10.4, topped out at 10.6. And of course, was only 32-bit, when the G5 had already moved desktops to 64-bit; and Intel's Core 2 Duo was 64-bit for the second-generation of Intel. (And ironically, the "Intel Developer Transition Kit" was 64-bit Pentium 4!)

I wouldn't be surprised in the least if the M1 gets left behind multiple years before M2. (And yet all of the Apple Silicon devices in my house are M1/M1 Max.)
 
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I'm sure at some point, they'll do like they did with both the PowerPC and Intel transitions - and abandon the first-generation early.

NuBus-based first-gen Power Macs couldn't run newer than Mac OS 9.1, and loading alternate OSes on it was an absolute nightmare compared to the second-ten PCI-based. (Plus the 601 CPU was pretty trash compared to even the "low-end-consumer" 603, much less the higher-end 604.)

First-gen Intel running Core Solo/Duo (32-bit!) got left behind only two updates later. Launched with 10.4, topped out at 10.6. And of course, was only 32-bit, when the G5 had already moved desktops to 64-bit; and Intel's Core 2 Duo was 64-bit for the second-generation of Intel. (And ironically, the "Intel Developer Transition Kit" was 64-bit Pentium 4!)

I wouldn't be surprised in the least if the M1 gets left behind multiple years before M2. (And yet all of the Apple Silicon devices in my house are M1/M1 Max.)
Same here and I feel the horizon approaching where M1 will be cut. I'm doing as much preemptive unloading of devices as I can.

My computing work:

Daily driver super Mac of some kind. M1 Max ---> M6 Max
Mac mini file sharing and personal storage host. M1 mini ---> M4 mini
High spec aux machine able to take on long jobs in AI or video transcoding I don't want to weigh down my daily with. M1 Max MBP that I got from a friend for a few hundred bucks that has a few bad ports and dents ---? maybe my old M1 Max takes this spot and I get rid of the beater. We'll see.
 
No, the M5 will only be one generation back. The M4 will depreciate the most.

From my experience, MBP's generally depreciate the most, in the first month. From then on, they tend to hold their value, until they reach the 'vintage' stage. M4's will probably increase in resale price, for a period of time, where buyers from Intel & M1 computers, decide to buy to hold over until M6 or later.
 
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From my experience, MBP's generally depreciate the most, in the first month. From then on, they tend to hold their value, until they reach the 'vintage' stage. M4's will probably increase in resale price, for a period of time, where buyers from Intel & M1 computers, decide to buy to hold over until M6 or later.
M1 Max Macbook Pros with 1tb and 32gb have remained about 1000-1200 for the last 1-2 years. They've been a great deal and still are... unless you're a power user. Otherwise, for the web/email/video consumer theyre amazing.
 
They should offer a gift card to those who buy the M5 Pro/Max and then M6 Pro/Max all within this year.

I guess if they screw up something (e.g. return of butterfly keyboard, burn-in in the OLED) in the redesign, then the M5 Pro/Max may hold good values.
 
Why do people keep saying it’s never happened?
It literally just happened three years ago.
M2Pro/Max MacBook Pros: introduced on January 17,2023

M3, M3Pro and M3Max MacBook Pros: introduced on October 30, 2023

Additionally, there have been two MacBook Pro updates in a year in 2006, 2008, 2011, 2013, 2019, and 2020.
It is absolutely nothing new.
At one time it was almost expected that the MacBook Pro would be updated once every nine months or so.
 
Two updates in one year PLUS the second one being a total redesign. That has not happened before.
Happened both in 2008 and 2019.
In 2008 the MacBook Pro was given a specification bump in February, and then given an entirely new unibody design in October.
In 2019 both the 13 inch and 15 inch MacBook Pro‘s were updated in May with new chips, and then the 15 inch was replaced by the 16 inch with a new design, new keyboard, new display, etc only five months later in November at the exact same price point.
 
My guess is that the M5 Pro/Max will be the most sought-after MacBook Pro for a few years, until Apple releases that thinner and lighter and a touchscreen is not what people want for a MacBook PRO.
 
Two updates in one year PLUS the second one being a total redesign. That has not happened before. The M4 pro models will be stupidly good deals in Jan 2027. They will replace the M1 as the no brainer performant baseline for this next generation of computing.

ummmm, are you making a supposition based on rumors, because you wrote this as if its fact? Speculation is one thing, but what I hate is when people then complain when it doesn't happen.
 
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