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MacBook Pro Models Said to Start at 16GB RAM and 512GB Storage, Feature Upgraded 1080p Webcams and New Charging Brick
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Your argument presupposes that Apple actually views things the way you do and you know they do not.
The lowest price the new 14” MacBook Pro could possibly start at is $1799, 8c/4c M1X, 16 GPU cores, 16GB DRAM, 512GB SSD. The increase for the mini-LED will either be $100 or $200, meaning the low end 14” could start at $1999. It is well within reason Apple to charge an additional $200 for the larger screen size and $200 for the mini-LED with the same 8c/4c M1X, 16 GPU cores, 16GB DRAM, 512GB SSD Starting at $2399 minimum. The 32 GPU cores may come standard on the $2799 model as well as a 1TB SSD, just as Apple does now. At a minimum, Apple is going to charge an additional $400 for anyone to get the 16” and it won’t cost less than $2199, which even at that price I have to laugh, because Apple has held the line at $2399 since 2016.
The upside will be that both the 14” and the 16” will have a GPU equivalent to the current 5600M and an upgrade to something roughly twice as powerful in the 32-core GPU model. People here need to prepare themselves for a slight sticker shock, at lease with the 14” model.
So I’ll move the base 14” up to $1999 start and the base 16” back down to $2399 starting prices.
And the beast will happily take every single dollar you have...
This is like saying why 32GB when 16GB is all you need. For 99% of people using a mac as a daily driver there's no difference. I have no budget and went for the 512 macbook pro and got my gf a macbook air 8GB and I can't tell any difference for any of the daily tasks. Instruction sets are much more efficient on the ARM cpus.
Yeah, it's very common here for people to think that because they only need X, no one else needs more than X. Scientific work can also require large amounts of RAM. I've had a program crash because it ran out of RAM on my 16 GB MacBook Pro.
Having said that, I've never considered the MacBook Pro a "professional machine". It's never been a workstation, and doesn't offer ECC RAM. I'd describe it as more prosumer, and closer to consumer than pro. That of course doesn't mean it's not a nice machine for professionals to use. The only true pro machines in their current/recent product line are the iMac Pro and Mac Pro.
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People need to prepare themeselves for the 14in to be well over $2000. Apple knows well they can sell tons of those at $2300-2400 with M1X, mini-led, 120hz, 14.9 display, more ports etc. They won't leave that money on the table and the 16in (with the same internal specs) will be $2500 or probably more...
The tendency here in these forums is to come up with pie in the sky pricing and then get super pissed when Apple doesn’t meet it or the price goes up. I tend to think that $1999 for the base 14” is accurate and the top end loaded 14” will be around $3799 (32GB/4TB SSD) with most people upgrading to 1TB and/or 32GB of DRAM.
The M1 Mac doesn't use "magic" to use RAM more efficiently.
It's not magic, but someone can speak to this more than I, it does USE ram much more effectively in that it has a faster in and out making it matches something with twice the ram in comparison to an intel machine with double the ram.
So magic?
No.
But magic-like?
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I think some people just post for attention
I tend to agree that Apple will put prices higher than most people would expect. I also think that most people will end up buying one of the standard models (most likely the lower-end ones), and some of them, higher-end users, will opt to go for higher-end options.
I largely agree that there is a difference between pro-sumers an actual professional editors. They are pretty niche use-cases though. What Mac rigs have you seen with these requirements that have been mobile?
Once upon a time we used to run servers doing pattern-matching and analytics with 100's of GB of memory. We actually had to pay extra licencing for it. Then the world of cloud came along and it's much cheaper to do it that way than forking out huge capital sums.
Well, apparently Apple figured out how to put 64GB of data into 32GB of memory. In their cafeteria they’re also serving 16oz coffee in a 8oz cup now.
With all of the component shortages, might be December 2022 (or 2023 if XBox and PS5 are any indicator). Although scalpers will probably have them available for $10K.
I hope they have serious GPU options because having 4k external displays added to GPU load just sitting still doing nothing. Then add 3D or a bunch of serious design apps, Xcode compile… pro live streaming apps, audio…
With the MacBook-centric Apple event now set for Monday, October 18, leakers are beginning to share a few new details that we haven't previously heard about the machines.
According to Dylandkt, the base 14 and 16-inch MacBook Pro models will feature 16GB RAM and 512GB of storage space, which is in line with the current high-end 13 and 16-inch MacBook Pro options.
As he has said previously, the new MacBook Pro models are also expected to feature an upgraded 1080p webcam, and the M1X chip will have the same configuration in both sizes with 10-core CPU.
Dylandkt claims Apple will provide a new charging brick, which is not a surprise since the upcoming machines are rumored to feature a new MagSafe charging port, which would necessitate new charging hardware.
The MacBook Pro models will feature mini-LED displays and smaller bezels with no bottom logo, which we have heard before, and pricing is expected to be similar between the two different sizes. The pricing gap between the 14 and 16-inch options will be "much more narrow" than the current 13 and 16-inch high-end MacBook Pro options.
Display analyst Ross Young earlier today said that the new MacBook Pro models could feature a 120Hz refresh rate for the mini-LED displays, and Dylandkt claims that 120Hz was "being tested on a Mac prototype" earlier in the year, but that he has "no clue when it's coming."
Full details on the new 14 and 16-inch MacBook Pro models will be announced next Monday, and until then, we have a roundup of all of the rumors we've heard so far available in our MacBook Pro guide.
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I bought an 8 GB mini and had to take it back. It was obviously blinding fast at some things compared with my 2015 MBP but it locked up at times with my normal workflow of many apps and heaps of browser windows. 16 GB would be minimum for me I'd expect. 16 GB being custom order for mini and MBA it's hard to get any kind of discount at Apple or 3rd party retailers. 16 GB needs to be base for a pro machine today, integrated GPU in the SoC demands it.
SD memory cards. Used in most low and mid digital cameras, as well as some higher-end models.
Going on other rumours out there, looks like GPUs are going to be pretty fast (and have decent memory) by Apple standards for MBP range and incredibly high in their energy-efficiency by industry standards. I wonder if the purported Geekbench scores getting around on other sites are accurate or spoofed?
Ah, next to HDMI keep thinking Standard Def. I use them in my Nikon D610 though ;-)
I have a D600 that I converted to "full spectrum." And while I still have a Panasonic G9 (which uses SD) my main camera is a Z7, which uses XQD and CFExpress
If you're doing matrix operations you can calculate how much space those matrices will take up in RAM. This is independent of the OS and chip design.
See, e.g.:
How much RAM do I need to store that matrix?
Dear Rick, I am trying to create a numerical matrix with 100,000 rows and columns in PROC IML.