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MacBook Pro Now Shipping Plus Speed Bump

inkhead said:
There are quite a few confused people here, so let me clear up a few things.

1. Intel NEVER MADE A Dual Core 1.67ghz Processor. Ever.

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Oh really? You better tell Intel to update their webpages.

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The .01 is a formality.
 
gnasher729 said:
There are four kind of chips Intel is offering for laptops: Celeron M, Pentium M, Core Solo, and Core Duo.

Pentium M has just been made obsolete by Core Duo, which is faster at the same price. Celeron M is cheap, and almost as good as Core Solo. Core Duo is only a tiny bit more expensive than Core Solo, at twice the performance. That is why I don't think there is any chance of a Core Solo; it is the wrong chip if you want a cheap chip, and it is the wrong chip if you want performance.

With today's announcement, it might be just about possible that Apple will ship iBooks with the slowest Core Duo, because they will want a gap between iBook and MacBook Pro, and now they can have that gap. Another possibility is two models; some people want a laptop at the cheapest possible price, and for some the performance is more important. Say $899 and $1099 for basic model with Celeron M and Core Duo. Instead of $1049 for Core Solo.

With these prices, just as an example, I would be very willing to pay $200 extra for Core Duo vs. Celeron M. I would _not_ pay $100 or $150 more for Core Solo.
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Did anyone think here about the death of the iBook as we know it? Why not give people something else at the low-end. Let's say a Tablet MAcBook able of normal people love to do- surf the net, import pictures from camera and using it for not such a high end software as I do at the momnet. Oh my poor G4 iBook!1!😎
 
delayed?

I called 2x (has 2 questions, forgot one)...2 things:

1: the 2nd guy on the phone said the 1-3 day shipping for the MBP w/ 100-7200rpm or 120-5400rpm is an error

2: first guy said mine looks like it will ship this week. the second guy told me *all* macbooks were delayed until the 28th. 😕

but this conflicts with the press release. so who knows. the 28th is 2 weeks...that is outside of either option in the press release (ie this week or next) 😕
 
inkhead said:
There are quite a few confused people here, so let me clear up a few things.

1. Intel NEVER MADE A Dual Core 1.67ghz Processor. Ever.

Apple bought 1.8ghz rated chips, which some were considered "to not have baked" to the rated 1.8ghz rating. So Apple decided to underclock them and sell them all evenly as 1.67ghz to ensure consistency. Apple has now figured out however that the chips they bought all work fine at 1.8ghz. Just like the 1.8ghz chips are actually 2ghz chips, and the 2ghz ones will most likely all work at 2.16ghz. You'll easily be ablel to overclock and try this for yourself.

Not only that, the chips in the Mac Book Pro are pin-for-pin compatible with the new 64bit chips shipping in june. Meaning the brave people will be able to buy the chip and upgrade their laptop just like any old windows machine.
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Thanks for the info.....but how the h*** do you know.....references 😉
 
sylgeist said:
The 2Ghz model now meets the minimum specs to play 1080p content - that is huge!
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1080P could be played on the 1.83Ghz. Prob the 1.67Ghz one as well. H.264 playback is being aided by the GPU.
 
SiliconAddict said:
Oh really? You better tell Intel to update their webpages.

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The .01 is a formality.
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After looking at that graphic I'd say Apple is planning on putting the lower power Dual 1.67 in the MacBook..
Thus the speed bump to clearly show the different specs between the MacBook and the MacBook Pro.
 
That's all BS

I call BS to that never-made 1.67 story - there's evidence everywhere.

Plus... what's number 2 on your conspiracy theory? 😉
 
Seriously....I'm as giddy as a schoolgirl. 😱 😀


Not only that, the chips in the Mac Book Pro are pin-for-pin compatible with the new 64bit chips shipping in june. Meaning the brave people will be able to buy the chip and upgrade their laptop just like any old windows machine.
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Maybe. There is still a number of things that could bar you from upgrading. the biggest being the firmware. The chipset is even what will be used in the next generation dual cores so all that is really left is EFI.
 
I saw this this morning and in a frezny I placed a 2nd order for the 2.0mhz MBP not realizing that my original order for the 1.83mhz would be speed bumped for free! Thank God I didn't cancel my initial order!!!
 
Wow, this is great news from Apple. I had my concerns on how they would step up to the quickly-changing Intel way of doing things (i.e. more frequent updates), but so far they haven't missed a step! This is a great bonus for all those early adopters, and it also increases the probability that we'll see more powerful chips in the upcoming MacBooks as well - possibly even the 1.67 GHz chips as others have speculated - this would be much better than having the Core Solos in them! Perhaps the Solos will be saved for the Mac minis....

So does this count as a Rev B Intel Mac then? 😛 😉 😀
 
Already 64-bit

inkhead said:
Not only that, the chips in the Mac Book Pro are pin-for-pin compatible with the new 64bit chips shipping in june. Meaning the brave people will be able to buy the chip and upgrade their laptop just like any old windows machine.
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From what I read in the last couple days these Core Duo chips are in fact already 64-bit. I'll have to look up the source where I read that, but I do remember that.

EDIT: Okay, here's the link. Don't know how true this is. http://www.gizmodo.com/gadgets/intel/intel-hiding-features-from-users-153822.php
 
*looks at Intel iMac 🙁* Your outdated! Nooo! Hahaha 😛 🙄

Nah, my iMac is fine, it's nice to see the speed bump in the Mac Book Pro, it might of tempted me to purchase one instead of the iMac. It has a smaller screen but, it has a better Video-Out option...oh and it costs more. Oh well, good thing for you people that ordered, enjoy! 😀
 
People on the Apple forums are going nuts...being told different things by phone reps.

Namely that the 1.8s won't be upgraded for free and their will just be a monitary credit (For how much? a 1.8 with a 256 Vram doesn't exist) and wasn't there a phone automated message stating the contrary?

And that shipping has been pushed to the 28th.
 
LimeiBook86 said:
*looks at Intel iMac 🙁* Your outdated! Nooo! Hahaha 😛 🙄

Nah, my iMac is fine, it's nice to see the speed bump in the Mac Book Pro, it might of tempted me to purchase one instead of the iMac. It has a smaller screen but, it has a better Video-Out option...oh and it costs more. Oh well, good thing for you people that ordered, enjoy! 😀
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Don't the iMac video adapters give you exactly the same video out options on the iMac? I know my friend has plugged his iMac into his 20" ACD.
 
Speed vs. Battery

I bet they're going to use the now slower chips for the MacBook (iBook) to differentiate the laptop lines. Announcement in March anyone? 🙂

Apple marketing speed-hype watch: They've updated the MacBook Pro product page with new benchmarks (now up to 5.2 x faster! 😛)

Apple marketing battery life watch: Instead of telling us the battery life for the MacBook Pro, Apple points you to this ridiculous page on notebook/ipod batteries. It practically goes through a physics theory lesson: http://www.apple.com/batteries/
 
i just called about my 1.83, which got comp'ed to a 2.0, and did the cpu upgrade to 2.16. I ordered it as fast as i could after macworld and it was set to ship tomorrow (yeah right). *exhale* i am really thrilled about this. the rep on the phone told me a few things:

1. this upgrade *may* push back my ship time 1 - 3 weeks
2. the order wasn"t at a point that the cpu upgrade would be impossible.

this got me thinking. i could be way off, but....

i personally don;t think that the cpu was was finalized when it was announced. they prob knew that they could atleast get the 1.67/1.83's and were hoping to get the 1.83/2.0/2.16;s but better to not announce that if you are unsure. More importantly, this is a great way to break the bad news that your laptop isn't going to be shipping.

"we have some good news and bad news for you. the good news is that you are getting a free upgraded cpu. the bad news is that, it is going to be another week or so"

ultimatly, it is possible that all of the macbook's ordered were going to be delayed anyway... this was just the spoon full of sugar to help the medicine go down.... and the stock prices to come back up.

well, that is just my opinion.... i could be wrong
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A new record!

So I order the fastest available MacBook Pro, and a faster 2.16GHz model becomes available before it even ships! 😱 That has GOT to be some kind of record! I'm delighted to get the free upgrade though. 😉
 
gnasher729 said:
No f***ing way. If Intel sells a 1.83 GHz chip, there is a fifty percent chance that it didn't pass the 2.00 GHz tests, and a considerable chance that it didn't pass those tests in very rare cases only - cases that are rare enough that Apple has no chance of finding them in tests, and often enough for your laptop to crash all the time.

Selling overclocked chips is a recipe for disaster, law suits, and the end of a promising business relationship with Intel.

Remember that Intel knows exactly how many of each chips Apple has bought. If there is anything suspicious, they will buy a laptop or two, and if they find overclocked chips, Apple would be in the deepest trouble you can imagine.
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intel does not "test" chips in that way, to do so is time consuming, they test one 300mm disk and work out safe clock speeds for different areas, closer to the middle cpu's are better quality cpu's near the edge have more defects, they may run them through a quick test to see if they work but not intencive testing to determine clock speed.
 
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