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bpd115 said:
People on the Apple forums are going nuts...being told different things by phone reps.

Namely that the 1.8s won't be upgraded for free and their will just be a monitary credit (For how much? a 1.8 with a 256 Vram doesn't exist) and wasn't there a phone automated message stating the contrary?

And that shipping has been pushed to the 28th.

Umm no. This is why people need to settle down. They are spreading all kinds of rumors. there are free upgrades across the board except for the 2.16Ghz. So

If you had ----> You get..
--------------------------
1.67Ghz -----> 1.83Ghz
1.83Ghz -----> 2Ghz
 
fabsgwu said:
Apple marketing battery life watch: Instead of telling us the battery life for the MacBook Pro, Apple points you to this ridiculous page on notebook/ipod batteries. It practically goes through a physics theory lesson: http://www.apple.com/batteries/

The page only talks about LION and Nickel batteries anyway... no mention of the LiPo battery that is actually used for the MacBook.
 
bpd115 said:
People on the Apple forums are going nuts...being told different things by phone reps.

Namely that the 1.8s won't be upgraded for free and their will just be a monitary credit (For how much? a 1.8 with a 256 Vram doesn't exist) and wasn't there a phone automated message stating the contrary?

And that shipping has been pushed to the 28th.

according to the automated message: ALL 1.67GHz will be upgraded to 1.83ghz and ALL 1.83GHz orders will be upgraded to 2.0GHz

I will call back and verify this afternoon. They said that the updates will show up tomorrow.
 
I just had mine upgraded to the 2.16 option. I thought it was really funny that the gentleman that was helping me stated that they just found out this morning in a email that was sent around.
 
Must be socketed

I'm guessing Intel came though with faster chips quicker than planned, and Apple pulled a bunch of slow Macs and replaced them with the faster chips. This all makes me think the CPUs must be socketed and in a not-so-hard place to get to. Perhaps for a while at least, as faster chips come out, we users can just pop 'em into the book!
 
Lepton said:
I'm guessing Intel came though with faster chips quicker than planned, and Apple pulled a bunch of slow Macs and replaced them with the faster chips. This all makes me think the CPUs must be socketed and in a not-so-hard place to get to. Perhaps for a while at least, as faster chips come out, we users can just pop 'em into the book!

Welcome to the world of Intel and using standard parts. Upgrading Mac processors will become more common across the board...

*Setting my sights on the Mac Pro or Pro Mac or whatever...*
 
Wow, the Intel transition has already provided some sweet surprises! Hopefully this is a sign of things to come. Personally, I'm waiting for the successor to the iBook (MacBook?) for my first Intel Mac laptop. Must be a nice surprise for those that have already ordered their Mac Book Pro's!
 
So does this mean if you wait a couple more months you will get a 2.3 Ghz model? Looks like specs. will now be subject to change at any minute like the PC world, which is a great thing. It just looks like the old...should I wait or should I buy...threads around here won't really matter anymore.
 
Hector said:
intel does not "test" chips in that way, to do so is time consuming, they test one 300mm disk and work out safe clock speeds for different areas, closer to the middle cpu's are better quality cpu's near the edge have more defects, they may run them through a quick test to see if they work but not intencive testing to determine clock speed.

If that were the case, Dell would have long switched to AMD, Apple would never have switched to Intel in the first place, and Intel would be bankrupt. Every single chip is checked on its own. You need some incredibly expensive equipment to do that at speed, but that is what Intel and every processor manufacturer does.
 
Lepton said:
I'm guessing Intel came though with faster chips quicker than planned, and Apple pulled a bunch of slow Macs and replaced them with the faster chips. This all makes me think the CPUs must be socketed and in a not-so-hard place to get to. Perhaps for a while at least, as faster chips come out, we users can just pop 'em into the book!

Right now it doesn't make much sense. A 2.16Ghz Core Duo is going to run you close to $700. Where things get interesting is in a year with Intel's next generation core Duo. That will be Dual Core, cooler, faster, 64-bit, double the cache size, pin compatible with the current MBP, and will, at least initially, sport the same chipset that is found in the MBP. The only roadblock as I stated before is Apple's EFI. Even if you can’t get Merom. I expect a die shrink on current Core Duo chips in a year. Enough that 2007’s Core Duos will consume less power then today’s. Pop in the same chip and get better battery life. Or pop in a 2.25Ghz Core Duo and increase the performance while eating the same amount of power. That alone would be cool.
 
cwedl said:
Sounds good to me! Don't understand why 2 people so far has said this story is negative!?

Yeah... this always the same...

If Apple just star to give every mac user US$ 100.00 in cash, just for the fact that you someday bought a Mac, people will still vote this as negative, and complaining:

"ouch!!! They could at least give us US$ 200, because 100 is nothing compared to bla bla bla bla..."

TFA
 
I think that the reasoning behind all of this is they werent finished testing the prototypes and figured that the 1.67 was too slow for a pro machine.
 
guffman said:
they never existed ;)

They probably are going to make the lower end intel iBook for $999 with a core solo 1.66ghz processor

and the high end $1299 intel iBook will probably have the dual core 1.66
 
FYI,

I just called to bump my order to the 2.16 and was told there was an additional lead out time (4-6 weeks). Maybe I should call and get a different rep. Not that 160x2mhz is worth the 300 bucks, but if it takes be down from the March delivery (ordered mine late)... the cost would have been worth it.

Bummer.
 
i don't think that intel just called apple and said "listen, we know that you are supposed to be shipping these things today, but what if we upgraded your chips at no cost"

besides even if that did happen, it would cost apple big time to open boxes, swap cpus, change stats on boxes, put them back in and ship them out. i think that apple knew about this for a little while and waited untill now to say so.

overclocking is out to, you would want todo some serious test before releasing those. besides once people found out, and it would have happened, people would be ticked. this definitly would have made thier intel launch be very soured.

to me, i think that apple would have rather shipped the slower chips then get caught overclocking. besides, overclocking a laptop seems like a really bad idea.... "is that smoke i smell and see coming out of my new macbook pro?"

maybe a better way to say the spoonful of sugar bit is this:

a spoonful of megahurtz helps the wait time go down. (down as in swallow not shorten)
 
gedto said:
I call BS to that never-made 1.67 story - there's evidence everywhere.

Plus... what's number 2 on your conspiracy theory? ;)

Dell seems to be selling laptops with 1.67 GHz Core Duo, so if Intel doesn't build them, maybe we should tell Michael Dell?
 
New Marketing Line

I Love Apple's New Graphic for the MacBook Pro: It's even faster then we thought:)

Now the iMac is outdated, when do they get a speed bump? If a guy in Japan can replace the chip why can't Apple lol.
 

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A nice surprise for the early adopters!

BTO processors are a new one for Apple, aren't they? Sounds like they're not fixed to the mobo to me.

So does this mean Apple was afraid of constrained chip supplies at the high end, and now it turns out Intel can deliver better than expected? That too would be a new one for Apple...
 
shadowfayre said:
FYI,

I just called to bump my order to the 2.16 and was told there was an additional lead out time (4-6 weeks). Maybe I should call and get a different rep. Not that 160x2mhz is worth the 300 bucks, but if it takes be down from the March delivery (ordered mine late)... the cost would have been worth it.

Bummer.


Dude you are screwed. You can change it back but you just lost your place in line. :(
 
I wasn't planning on buying for a month or two yet but this is just great news.

I was settled on the 1.67 model but secretly longing for the faster one. :D Whether it's been caused by necessity (probably) or just a marketing ploy, I'm happy.
 
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