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iMac Pro Macbook pro SSD as boot drive for Imac?

Heliotropen said:
Not sure about if I should go with the USB3 or the Thunderbolt - because the price will not be that much diffrent.
I get 500 gb on the usb3 for about the same price as the 256 gb Thunderbolt, not much saved in a 256gb usb 3 actually.

Nice info on the scandisk, thank you.
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Although in practice the two should be perceivably the same, I usually lean towards Thunderbolt if it isn't a huge price difference. It's probably just a preference thing, but in my experience Thunderbolt devices have been more reliable. Plus the TRIM thing could be an issue if you plan to use the system for years to come.
 
I would like to wait 2-3 years to get a new imac, because the hinge is also broken so the resale value will be low.

Etc. the t5 is a new drive though, so those might be as reliable (things might have changed I mean) ?

With that said the Trim thing do concern me.

Here in denmark it will cost me:

Thunderbolts:
Transcend StoreJet 500 256 GB (thunderbolt): 247 USD + delivery
LaCie Rugged Thunderbolt SSD 500 GB (thunderbolt): 381,50 USD + delivery.

USB3:
Samsung T5 250gb: 168 USD + delivery
Samsung T5 500gb: 250 USD + delivery

The repair:
Repair + SATA III SSD 256 gb: 336 USD
Repair + SATA III SSD 500 gb: 432 USD

Price is a huge factor for me right now: but I'm also very dependent on the machine.
 
Heliotropen said:
I would like to wait 2-3 years to get a new imac, because the hinge is also broken so the resale value will be low.

Etc. the t5 is a new drive though, so those might be as reliable (things might have changed I mean) ?

With that said the Trim thing do concern me.

Here in denmark it will cost me:

Thunderbolts:
Transcend StoreJet 500 256 GB (thunderbolt): 247 USD + delivery
LaCie Rugged Thunderbolt SSD 500 GB (thunderbolt): 381,50 USD + delivery.

USB3:
Samsung T5 250gb: 168 USD + delivery
Samsung T5 500gb: 250 USD + delivery

The repair:
Repair + SATA III SSD 256 gb: 336 USD
Repair + SATA III SSD 500 gb: 432 USD

Price is a huge factor for me right now: but I'm also very dependent on the machine.
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With those prices in mind I would definitely go for the T5, whether you decide to go for the 250 or 500GB. That price difference is pretty big and not worth it to go Thunderbolt or internal IMO.
 
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There probably would be no "advantage".
One USB3 SSD is going to be roughly the same speed as another.

So long as it's USB3 -and- SSD, I'd shop "for price"...
 
Hello again, Heliotropen!

Delock 42510 Thunderbolt enclosure (might be cheaper here) 890 kr ($142.74 USD)
500GB Samsung 850 EVO 1153 kr ($184.93 USD)

You may also need a short Thunderbolt cable. I can't read Danish so don't know if it is included or not.

Figure about $100 to $120 additional over the cost of the T5 and in my opinion it will be money well spent if you intend to be booting from the SSD for a few years.

I still have that same Thunderbolt enclosure with the same SSD I purchased in 2013 here and it is running strong. I booted my Late 2013 iMac from it for three years and now it is dedicated to BootCamp.

I strongly recommend Thunderbolt for support for TRIM commands as estabya mentioned above (reduces unnecessary writes which can reduce SSD longevity and lead to slowdowns)
 
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Hey again SaSa - hmm the thunderbolt enclosure seams very expensive compared event to the thunderbolt Transcend StoreJet 500.

Not to mention that it's allot older tech compared to these newer disks.
It seams to be allot bulkier.

Are you really sure it's worth it?

Surely the Storejet can do trim if it has to.

Also it has to last 3-4 years not 10 :) how much slowdown are we expecting here?

Is it really worth the price? ...Asking seriously, because I'm very much in doubt.

I mean I could buy the cheapest SSD USB3 and even if it's bad I can always use it for data.

The t5 advertise for 540 MB/s speeds, that faster than most of the others:
 
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Heliotropen said:
Hey again SaSa - hmm the thunderbolt enclosure seams very expensive compared event to the thunderbolt Transcend StoreJet 500.

Not to mention that it's allot older tech compared to these newer disks.
It seams to be allot bulkier.

Are you really sure it's worth it?
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Sorry, I don't know too much about the Transcend but if it is a true Thunderbolt drive and you can get it inexpensively I don't think it'd be a bad choice.

Surely the Storejet can do trim if it has to.
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If it is Thunderbolt then it certainly can. The only advantage of the Delock would be being able to swap out the SSD.

If you're only using it for a few years and 256GB is enough for you (in other words you have external storage as well) then it sounds like the Transcend is the best choice after all.
 
Okay so I ended up buying the Transcend StoreJet500 (just arrived today)... Used Carbon Copy to copy over the disk.

It runs REALLY well, actually just gone from a machine that was unuseable to actually feeling more than fast enough.

Now I have ONE problem, I can't convert the disk to APFS (booted from an usb into recovery, and made the drive passive, otherwise the convert to APFS was ghosted out) - but it gives me a fault 118.

What to do? :)
 
Thnx Sushi, already tried it will only let me do it on the partition not the drive.
And only when it's not active. and then it makes the 118 error right away.
[doublepost=1519133568][/doublepost]I know I should have done to the disk before I started.
But now I have moved it all over, so would hate to start over.
[doublepost=1519136484][/doublepost]Hmm Perhaps I should just stay with HFS+ for now then.
 
I did and it's running great actually ...
At first I had lousy speeds (it felt fast enough, but according to blackmagic), then I enabled trim and did the good old "fsck -fy" in single user mode, and it trippled to the speed reading to the speeds the drive had promised.

As long as I'm not missing out on to much (and I won't gain allot of speed converting) then I guess Im' fine with HFS+
I calmed down after I read a few had faster speeds on HFS+ than on APFS.
 
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