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Completely agree with you @MrCheeto. Looks like were going to have to find something new now.

By the way, my 2007MBP runs about ~80F - ~180F (That's the most I've seen it get up to). Fans kick up to almost 6000RPM's when it's doing something intensive.

Seriously? Just pony up the $10 and support the developer. You've probably gotten quite a bit out of use out of the software; I know I have.
 
Are you kidding? If I were Donald Trump cash, I'd throw THOUSANDS at all of these developers and companies that support the mac. I'd give incentives to Aspyr to make sure they could afford to ramp-up porting of great games. I'd help keep Pandora free. I'd give Sun support so they could improve VirtualBox, an already great app. Handbrake, Quake Live, Smart Sleep, Perian, id Software as a whole, the Unarchiver....all of the respective companies would have my full support because I feel they could make great apps EXCELLENT with only support and time, and they certainly DESERVE compensation for such fine products.

Problem is, I'm days from homelessness and don't have any aspirations to be the next Trump, sorry to say =P

I want to support great software, but I haven't got a dime to give XD
 
just dl'd iStat Pro . I have a 17" MBP a Intel processor.

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it always seems to get REALLY hot :Z :confused:
 
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Hello all. I am new to posting on MacRumors but have been reading a long time and have recently worked for Apple. I have a MBP Intel Core 2 Duo 2.66 GHz, bought in early 2010. My first Mac laptop. I have been reading on this heat issue for a while as well because mine seems to run hot as well. I live in AZ so it's hotter here anyhow but mine seems to run between 80-180 degrees fahrenheit When I am using Handbreak, other processor intensive programs, or many processing programs at once it heats up to about 140-170. It seems really hot.

To reiterate what has already been said, I also recommend installing iStat Pro (or just the iStat Dashboard widget as it is free) to monitor many things like temperatures, memory, CPU, disk, and network usage/activity, fan speeds, battery, etc. It's a great program and/or widget.

I also use smcFanControl, which seems to help lower the temp because you can manually adjust the operating fans' speeds; however, even at 6200 rpm it will still run hot but drops a good 15+ degrees when I kick it up, so it's worth the easy free download.

Anyhow, I believe these temps are normal for a MBP with Intel, though they seem hot and are obviously hot coming out the two vents near the screen hinges.

I have attached screen shots of what my computer is running right now without any major intensity in AZ 80 degrees inside.

I guess these things just run hot but I'll keep looking into this.
 

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Firefox is the only thing running. What should I do apart from call the fire brigade?

When I was running Logic earlier it was hitting 100. AND I'm using a Laptop Cooler! Something must be wrong, I'm calling support because this is unacceptable.


(Celcius BTW)
 

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MBP temps

The BOINC program I run on my MBP 15" 8hrs./day utilizes the GPU.
With the 9600M running I use smtFanControl to crank the fans up to 5500 and it keeps the CPU temp around 150 F. and the GPU around 130.
And the MBP sits on a table.
I don't use "laptop" and "Higher Performance" in the same sentence. It's hot.
The NVIDIA 9400 is warm but not uncomfortable.

Everyday surfing I use default fan settings and have no problems.
 
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Greetings All:

Long-time user but first time poster. I just adopted a MBP 2.53GHz Intel Core 2 Duo, which was a hefty upgrade from my old G4. So far it's been awesome.

I did notice today that it was emanating quite a bit of heat. I do design, so Photoshop, Illustrator, Dreamweaver, Firefox and iTunes are on the daily menu.

My old mac used to heat up so much that I bought a "Cooler Master™" which had two 80mm fans beneath a metal grill platform. Worked great until the cheap fan bushings started buzzing after 3 months. Right now I still have the grill to elevate the new mac but have yet to get some new fans.

Anyways, like I said it feels hot. So I got smcfancontrol and for starters raised minimum speed to 4775rpm. The whir is audible but it's consistently ±60C now. Does that sound ok?
 
Greetings All:

Long-time user but first time poster. I just adopted a MBP 2.53GHz Intel Core 2 Duo, which was a hefty upgrade from my old G4. So far it's been awesome.

I did notice today that it was emanating quite a bit of heat. I do design, so Photoshop, Illustrator, Dreamweaver, Firefox and iTunes are on the daily menu.

My old mac used to heat up so much that I bought a "Cooler Master™" which had two 80mm fans beneath a metal grill platform. Worked great until the cheap fan bushings started buzzing after 3 months. Right now I still have the grill to elevate the new mac but have yet to get some new fans.

Anyways, like I said it feels hot. So I got smcfancontrol and for starters raised minimum speed to 4775rpm. The whir is audible but it's consistently ±60C now. Does that sound ok?

Yea that's completely fine. Whenever I'm doing CPU intensive tasks mine shoots up to the 80s and stays there; I'm running an old blackbook BTW. With SMC, I keep the settings on default but ~4000 is a setting I also have as well. The fans max out at around 6000 so you should be fine running it as it is.
 
For anyone with a Core2Duo processor in their macbook and especially macbook air, and are willing to spend 10$ on a shareware application, I would recommend CoolBook Controller to help out with heat issues. This application undervolts the processor, which ends up in lower power consumption (better battery life) and less heat produced by the processor. I have noticed a huge difference in my unibody macbook in heat generated by the computer, and have also experienced better battery life since installing CoolBook.

Check out the website if you are interested:
http://www.coolbook.se/CoolBook.html

And make sure to read the instructions before you change any settings..
 
Wow, interesting solution indeed. How long have you been using CoolBook?

Undervolting the processor(s) is an approach I hadn't heard of (then again, I'm not a techie). Does anyone else use this app? It doesn't affect processor performance when it's crucial (i.e., photoshop, etc.)?

Thanks for sharing, I'll definitely look into it.

Today the temp is a lot lower - 39C at 4775RPM with all my apps running. Have yet to see how it's affecting my battery life, if at all.
 
Wow, interesting solution indeed. How long have you been using CoolBook?

Undervolting the processor(s) is an approach I hadn't heard of (then again, I'm not a techie). Does anyone else use this app? It doesn't affect processor performance when it's crucial (i.e., photoshop, etc.)?

Thanks for sharing, I'll definitely look into it.

Today the temp is a lot lower - 39C at 4775RPM with all my apps running. Have yet to see how it's affecting my battery life, if at all.

Well from my experience, I used to undervolt my phone while overclocking it to improve battery life while keeping it from burning a whole in my hands when I used it.

Performance wise, undervolting won't do any harm to the cpu; it's designed to give the CPU less power than normal to save energy spent. When the engineers or whoever make computers or any type of electronic, they set how much voltage goes to the cpu. Of course they can go lower or higher but they try to pick a point where the computer never needs more than it can get but also doesn't use as much as your fridge.

By undervolting, through trial and error (or getting lucky) you can find the lowest possible setting to run the machine and improve battery life and lower overall heat.

Now some of the terminology might be (and probably is) a little off here because I learned about this a year or so ago, and that was just in reference to phones (although it's the same concept).

As for danger, no. If the cpu doesn't get enough energy, it will just "hang" I guess you could say, and the computer will freeze. A quick restart will fix the problem.

Your performance won't be hindered at all either; it's best to take out "less" power when it's running high and more when it's running low. That way, you save more power when you're keeping it at a lower state (which is where it is most of the time anyway) and also keeping it from melting the desk.
 
Wow, interesting solution indeed. How long have you been using CoolBook?

Undervolting the processor(s) is an approach I hadn't heard of (then again, I'm not a techie). Does anyone else use this app? It doesn't affect processor performance when it's crucial (i.e., photoshop, etc.)?

Thanks for sharing, I'll definitely look into it.

Today the temp is a lot lower - 39C at 4775RPM with all my apps running. Have yet to see how it's affecting my battery life, if at all.

I have been using it for about 8 months and have yet to see an issue. The way I have it set is on kind of a step scale, so when the computer is running low, I have the voltage on lowest setting, then bump it up if its using a little bit more CPU and then when its running high I have it set to not undervolt very much at all.

It's very easy to configure this in the CoolBook program and you can even have different settings for when the macbook is plugged in or on battery power. So what I did was have much lower voltage settings on battery power to try to conserve as much energy as possible. It definitely helps out a lot.
 
i peaked at 94c (on full load on a wooden table).

now when i'm using CPU intensive application, i now use the macbook pro on a stainless steel table (which is more conductive).

so these days, the temperature would now peaked around 80c. and around 40-65 in regular normal use.
 
It's been warming up here in L.A.; with SMC Fan Control set at minimum 4175RPM, the highest it's peaked so far was around 68-70F. I could hear the fans speed up substantially to compensate but couldn't remember top speed.

Seeing that the heat emanates from the vents right at the hinge between the monitor and keyboard, I'm trying to concept a way to direct the flow of air directly to that area as soon as I get some new fans.
 
It's been warming up here in L.A.; with SMC Fan Control set at minimum 4175RPM, the highest it's peaked so far was around 68-70F. I could hear the fans speed up substantially to compensate but couldn't remember top speed.

Seeing that the heat emanates from the vents right at the hinge between the monitor and keyboard, I'm trying to concept a way to direct the flow of air directly to that area as soon as I get some new fans.

Your computer stays at 70 degrees F? I find that hard to believe unless you're outside in the snow... or you're in a very cold room... that's colder than I can get my house (in Florida).
 
Recently replaced a completely dead battery on my MacBook Pro CoreDuo.

At a full charge, plugged in, playing HBO Go full screen, peaked at 100c at 6000 RPM. :-/

Part that's weird is that, when I pause or stop watching, the temperature positively _plunges_, like to 85 degrees in about 1 second. Didn't realize CPU temperature varied so quickly. Or is this a glitch?

(checked with iStat Pro and smcFanControl -- both registered the same CPU temp).
 
Recently replaced a completely dead battery on my MacBook Pro CoreDuo.

At a full charge, plugged in, playing HBO Go full screen, peaked at 100c at 6000 RPM. :-/

Part that's weird is that, when I pause or stop watching, the temperature positively _plunges_, like to 85 degrees in about 1 second. Didn't realize CPU temperature varied so quickly. Or is this a glitch?

(checked with iStat Pro and smcFanControl -- both registered the same CPU temp).

The temp should never get to 100. I think something's wrong. Reset all of those things that have acronyms that people love telling people to reset. See if that helps.
 
Think it might just be a bad reading? Doesn't feel like it's running 100c (though definitely hot).

Wonder if the reading has to do with this battery. Never ran that hot until I put the thing in today (had a dead one as a placeholder before).

Currently running at 52c, 3967 rpm (manual setting) and 6%-10% CPU usage. Moves to 60c when I enter a URL (brings it to 30% user usage also).
 
<cough> the latter...

That might be it; try running the machine without the battery and see what happens. People say that it throttles the system, using it without a battery, but if you can't replicate the same temperatures then you might be closing in on the problem.

I had an Ebay battery "just because" (33 bucks) and, although it worked great for a week or so, it never sat flush with the bottom of the computer and it repeatedly would cut off for no reason.

With a full charge, on the charger, would just cut off.
 
That said, it's hard to believe that the CPU can really go from 55c to 85c in 20 seconds (again with the reading thing...)
 
That said, it's hard to believe that the CPU can really go from 55c to 85c in 20 seconds (again with the reading thing...)

55 to 85 in 20? That's not bad at all...

Hold on, let me try something.

OK so I played 5 HD videos (720p) in youtube at the same time, and cpu shot up to 90. Full fans 6k brought it to 88; I then closed them all instantly and within 15 seconds the fans were in the low 60s.

The cpu isn't that hard to cool; the problem is the temperature your MB gets to; the newer MBPs (that's what I have, a 2011) get up in the mid 90s and throttle there. My old blackbook never went over 85, no matter what I did with it.

I think your battery is either supplying too much voltage (I don't know anything about this, so I'm just spouting ideas) or it isn't being regulated correctly. OR there's something else wrong, IF you have never seen those temperatures before.
 
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Yeah, took the battery out and under the same conditions registered that it's running 40 degrees cooler. But that doesn't necessarily mean it's something wrong with this _particular_ battery... might just be the difference between no battery and live battery?

Brief note also -- there's no optical drive. Wonder if that makes any sort of difference in pulling heat away from the CPU. Probably no.

Last time --- any chance iStat's getting the reading wrong because of the new hardware, or something? To the touch, the computer's definitely hot, but 100c is bordering on frying pan, which it is not.
 
Also, wonder if it's an OSX issue -- currently running 10.5.8 (10.5.7 was rumored to make your computer run hot).
 
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