I believe Thunderbolt 2 requires Intel's new Falcon Ridge controller, which won't ship until later in the year.
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MacBook Pro Updates Still to Come, But What Can We Expect?
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I believe Thunderbolt 2 requires Intel's new Falcon Ridge controller, which won't ship until later in the year.
I think this as well. I think you will see a new monitor/display released along with the Mac Pro, and the MBP will be following shortly after with support for that display.
That is going to be a very expensive upgrade for me!!!
I think Maverics and TB2 both have something to do with release, but also a new 4K Apple monitor. I'm just pulling guesses out of the cloud like everyone else, but I think Apple will hold a "Pro" event this fall when the MP is ready and also update the MBP, ACD, Aperture and Logic at that time. I also predict the next ACD will have 2 TB2 ports + 2 USB3 ports.
I'm not in the market for those computers, and I like them just fine. I have no reason to care, but from where I am, It makes perfect sense for Apple to 'iPod classic' it. They might leave it how it is at its current price because the people who want it are going to buy it regardless of whether or not it gets updated
That rumour puzzled me for the same reason. I was hoping for a new rMBP at WWDC but I'm going to have to wait. Have the cash, but not interested in the MBAs. Maxxed out BTO rMBP is my only choice.IMHO, this makes more sense than backlogs on the retina displays. Wouldn't the displays be the same as the ones the current model has?
Hopefully they be out in the next couple of months.
I don't think Apple is waiting on Mavericks to release rMBP's. Last year they released the 15" rMBP about six weeks before Mountain Lion. They could have waited because performance was better on ML.
Also the eventual release of Mavericks is fluid and depends of beta testing. Apple is not going to hold up hardware that doesn't depend on Mavericks just to wait until it's done.
IMHO the holdup is due to Intel and waiting for Iris Pro. I'd be willing to wait a month or two longer if it meant TB2 as well.
Also the eventual release of Mavericks is fluid and depends of beta testing. Apple is not going to hold up hardware that doesn't depend on Mavericks just to wait until it's done.
IMHO the holdup is due to Intel and waiting for Iris Pro. I'd be willing to wait a month or two longer if it meant TB2 as well.
Stepping down to the 28W parts is actually the most likely. There are three 28W parts: two i5 (4258 and 4288) and one i7 (4558). This falls more in-line with the "slimmer 13-inch model" rumors. In addition, Apple has before sacrificed CPU performance for GPU performance (see: Mid-2010 13" MacBook Pro).
As far as timing is concerned, I think it's reasonable to assume that, due to Mavericks and Thunderbolt 2, we'll be seeing them in the Fall.
I'd love to get a rMBP, so hopefully the wait isn't too long. MacBook Pros have been released a few weeks after WWDC in the past IIRC, so it's not unheard of.
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Exactly thinking the same thing.
TB2 is a given.
The monitor...since the Mac Pro is going to be able to power that, Im assuming they'll want their new MBPr to be able to do 4K.
And I think you will see new FCX (or whatever version is it) coming out at the same time.
During the keynote they did make it a point to say "third-party" 4K display. They could have left out "third-party" but they didn't. In fact, they said it and put it on the slides. So I'm not sure if that'll be out this year, and as such I don't know if there's really a huge need to put TB2 right away. Besides, the rMBPs with Ivy Bridge don't have TB2 either.
However, I think your idea of a Mac-centric event is very logical. They can release Mavericks and refresh all their Mac lines and software. I'm wondering if it'll happen before or after the release of the 5S and iOS7. I'm imagining some things might require both 10.9 and iOS7 (e.g. the synced notifications, the map sharing). So if they have an event with a) iOS7, b) Mavericks, c) iWork, Aperture, Logic updates, d) Mac refreshes, e) Mac Pro, f) iPhone 5S, g) iPad 5 - that's gonna be really big.
You know: I don't know how these so called analysts don't see the obvious: a lot of Haswell processors haven't launched yet and won't before Q3 2013, including all Haswell with Iris 5200 which I believe will be powering the new 13" rMBP. That's the reason why they haven't announced anything.
Agree completely. I'm trying to decide if TB2 is worth it. I plan on keeping this laptop several years so it might be nice to have, but then again I don't do heavy video processing and I haven't really taken to multiple monitors (and won't have the cash to buy a 4K one anyway).
Even if they are waiting for either TB2 or Mavericks it doesn't make sense to release it almost six months after Haswell. They will loose so much since people are going to buy other pc's instead. Sounds more logical to me to release the new rMBP's as fast as possible and that would be when Iris Pro is available am I right?
I suspect they are waiting for Mavericks to release the MBP updates, in order to get the most out of the battery life stats. Reports have said Thunderbolt 2 isn't going to be released until late 2013 or early 2014, which means the MacPro is going to be REALLY later this year.
Thanks for pointing out the other 28W parts, I hadn't seen them.
I agree now that this is pretty likely, especially with Kuo's claims of a thinner 13" rMBP. If they were going to try to shoehorn a 47W in there I don't think they would be concerned with making it thinner.
In some ways this could actually be closer to a 13" retina Air.
These only have 5100 graphics, even on the i7. I don't think the tradeoff will fly without the Iris Pro graphics. Then again, I don't know the exact difference between the two. According to Ars Technica, Intel claims the 5100 is 2x better than 4000, and 5200 is 2.5x better (1.5x for the 5000 chips FYI).
The Iris Pro Graphics 5200 GPU is similar to the Iris 5100 in execution resources, but it adds a small amount of integrated eDRAM to the CPU package to increase performance. This performance comes with a fairly heavy power costthe H-series quad-core processors that use the Iris Pro 5200 have a 47W TDP compared to the dual-core Iris 5100-equipped U-series CPUs' 28Wbut this is to be expected, given that you're integrating extra memory on the die and going from two to four cores to boot. As Ars contributor David Kanter writes, this eDRAM should also be usable by the processor cores as another level of cache memory, further increasing CPU performance as well.
I guess we'll just see what happens. Apple has surely tried several combinations and found one that works.
I'm annoyed the new iMac didn't come with 1080 FaceTime, also it would be nice to have some dedicated LEDs and not just the screen to light people when using it.
I think it makes sense for Apple not to announce the new MBPs before they are ready and kill sales of the current model.
I expect Apple to also update both the Mac Mini and iMac in coming months, maybe with little fanfare and just a press release unless they plan more than just CPU/WiFi upgrades.
I think it makes sense for Apple not to announce the new MBPs before they are ready and kill sales of the current model.
I expect Apple to also update both the Mac Mini and iMac in coming months, maybe with little fanfare and just a press release unless they plan more than just CPU/WiFi upgrades.
The only real difference is the embedded DRAM.
I think Apple will go with this option if it lets them move to a significantly thinner form factor, which it probably will.
Look at the Zenbook Infinity:
http://www.anandtech.com/show/7035/...-with-the-most-beautiful-notebook-at-computex
It has a retina display and that 28W CPU. It's practically the same form factor as an Air, even a bit thinner at it's thickest point (0.61" vs 0.68"). Apple might not go quite so thin in order to maximize battery life like they did with the new Airs.