MacBook Pro Updates Still to Come, But What Can We Expect?

UnfetteredMind said:
IMHO, this makes more sense than backlogs on the retina displays. Wouldn't the displays be the same as the ones the current model has? :confused:
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Nope, rumors are they are moving to the new tech, IGZO, which is better on battery life. So it would make sense these new panels are on backlog for the initial rollout.
 
Aidan5806 said:
I've said it before and I'll say it again. The reason that Apple did not update the MacBook Pro lineup is because they are waiting for dual and quad-core mobile Haswell processors with Iris Pro (GT3e/5200HD) Graphics to launch. This is essential for Apple to sufficiently drive their retina displays (especially the 13") without the need for a discrete GPUs at all times (to save power). That being said, chips with these specifications launch next month so that is when we should expect the update.
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You seem confident. What day are these released?
 
polymersayb said:
The problem is that Thunderbolt 2 is only supposed to be released at the end of the year. Personally, I'd like to buy a Haswell 13" rMBP now, so I would like Apple to release Haswell ASAP and just do a minor spec update in December to Thunderbolt 2. You could argue that it would be screwing customers, but I think that keeping Ivy Bridge around is screwing them more.

More likely, I think, is that they're waiting for the Iris and Iris Pro chips to be available from Intel. The Airs got 5000 graphics so there's no way Apple would stick in the current crop of chips with the 4600 graphics into its Pro line (at least I hope not). Well, I'm really really hoping for 5200 graphics at least (and also a quad-core processor (even stepped down!), 16GB RAM, and 10hrs battery life. Probably a bit much to ask for though... especially if they want to slim it down).

Also something about a USB3 bug that's getting fixed this summer?
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The only difference between the HD 5000 and HD 5100/5200 (Iris Pro) is clock speed on the GPU. Its just a matter of having more space to handle the extra power and heat, otherwise there is no difference.

CaptHenryMorgan said:
Nope, the two are basically identical as it is sans display. Once retina becomes feasible with reasonable battery, the 13" "Pro" will go away and be replaced by said Air. This will make room for the 15 and 17" true Pro lines.
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Maybe. I still think they'll keep the 13" pro, especially until the technology is there to keep the current battery life, and still drive a retina panel. Like I said this probably won't happen until Broadwell brings further power improvements, and perhaps even until Skylake brings performance improvements. Even then, the panel itself must come down substantially in price to make including it a viable option on Apple's entry level laptop.
 
samac92 said:
A few minutes to start from hibernation? It should take a couple of seconds, and the MacBook Pros don't have spinning hard drives they use all flash storage.

Your comment sounds like it has come from 2003 :p
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Um the "classic" MBP does have a spinning HDD. The retina's have flash HDs.
 
essentially the only way I can rationalize a retina MBP purchase for myself is if they come out with a 17" rMBP.
I'm doing just fine with my "studio" 2010 15" MBP and my "work" 2012 13" MBP.
 
polymersayb said:
I'd be surprised if they go down to the ULV-class processors. Apple gets enough slack for calling the 13" "Pro" as is. I'm going to go with an underclocked version of B. But that might just be wishful thinking because I want the 5200 graphics ;)

Edit: Oh, and a quad-core processor too while we're at it.
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If only they would introduce 13" rMBP with the thickness of the current cMBP, include a quadcore with 5200 Iris Pro, and an increased battery capacity.

That would be a true pro machine. Battery life and performance all in a 13" package. Unfortunately, Apple would never go for something that thick. They're obsessed with making everything as thin as possible.
 
My wild-ass guess:

Minor updates: Haswell, 802.11ac, PCIe SSD, Facetime camera update. A minor GPU update on the 15" model. With all that, the battery life increase.

No major changes. Not even the rumored slimmer 13" model.

Quiet update - just a website update one morning. No event.

Quick - before the middle of July - possibly as early as next week.

Only variable I could see: *POSSIBLE* that the 13" gets either a quad-core or discrete GPU. Not both though. And of those, I'd consider the quad-core likely. Neither anything close to a guarantee.

One guarantee: They'll get the HD5000-series graphics, very probably the faster "Iris" branded, with the 15" almost certainly getting the Iris Pro; and the 13" getting it if it moves to quad-core. (There aren't any dual-core Iris Pro CPUs.)
 
I wonder if Apple is waiting for the Intel chipsets which have the revised stepping for the CPU due to the USB issues with the initial chipset. These are due out at the end of July.

This would make more sense to me than waiting for TB 2.0 which doesn't come out until the end of the year. It has been rumored on other sites that Intel is sticking with Haswell and a revised chipset in 2014 and won't introduce Broadwell until 2015.

My guess is TB 2 will be incorporated in the rMBPs in the revision to the upcoming update to Haswell, possibly in Spring 2014. As much as I would like to see the next rMBP include TB 2, I just think it is too far away.
 
I was all set to purchase a maxed out 15" Retina MacBook Pro after WWDC. I did expect them to update the machines at that time and I was surprised that they didn't. But unlike some of the other posters on here I'm not mad about it. Dissapointed, yeah but not mad.

The keynote was very entertaining I really enjoyed the playfulness that Greg Fegorini displayed with the crowd and I really liked the unveiling of the new Mac OS X Mavericks and iOS 7. The Mac Pro was a bonus and I am also really happy that Apple is turning to PCIe based SSD sticks as opposed to the SATA ones.

So overall I am happy to wait. I fully expect Haswell, increased battery life, PCIe SSD's and 802.11ac networking (Already got an 802.11ac router!).

I think the reason that they delayed the machines is because of Thunderbolt 2. I think that for them is an important specification to add to a "Pro" notebook while the MacBook Air doesn't really need it and since the Air lacks a Retina display I think it shows they are willing to withhold the "Best" stuff from the Air while the Pro could stand to wait for something like Thunderbolt 2. I think that is also the reason the Mac Pro is being delayed however they obviously want to wait for Ivy Bridge-E before they release that machine so that is another factor there.
 
If they do manage to update the rMBP, what will the price be? The intro model is 1499. And any chance they'll bump up the storage from 128 to 256?

If they can do Haswell, 256 GB, and better battery for even the same price, and before the end of August when school starts, I'm sold. Otherwise, new Air for me.
 
Mr. RPG said:
You seem confident. What day are these released?
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I am confident in the reason these notebooks have not yet been updated.
As for the date they will be, I'm not saying I have a solid source on this but I feel strongly that the Retina MacBook Pro line will be updated within the first 2 weeks of July.
 
Aidan5806 said:
I am confident in the reason these notebooks have not yet been updated.
As for the date they will be, I'm not saying I have a solid source on this but I feel strongly that the Retina MacBook Pro line will be updated within the first 2 weeks of July.
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I really, really, really hope so.
 
wiz329 said:
You probably won't get the same battery life as the airs, due to the dGPU on the 15" and all the extra pixels both the 13" and 15" have to drive. However, it will nevertheless be a significant improvement.
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When you take apart an Air and a 13" rMBP you see the thickness of the rMBP is critical for the bigger battery to fit. Take the spec of an rMBP and stuff it into an Air and you'll lose 40% of the battery volume, hence capacity too.

I really like my 13" Retina, and look forward to getting one in the fall with fast graphics and whatever tweaks on-hand. But I'll take more speed/goodies/battery life over another millimeter shaved from the chassis any day - this thing's thin and light and easy already. And every time I open it and look at the display, I'm glad I didn't get an Air.
 
Unfortunately, when they killed the 17" version they killed my interest in updating my work MBPs any time soon. I'll have to upgrade eventually but now I'm in no hurry.
 
outpost said:
That rumour puzzled me for the same reason. I was hoping for a new rMBP at WWDC but I'm going to have to wait. Have the cash, but not interested in the MBAs. Maxxed out BTO rMBP is my only choice.
Hopefully they be out in the next couple of months.
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Agreed, I'm in the same boat as you.
 
JohnDoe98 said:
Nope, rumors are they are moving to the new tech, IGZO, which is better on battery life. So it would make sense these new panels are on backlog for the initial rollout.
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The LIFEBOOK UH90/L has already the IGZO-display:
http://www.fujitsu.com/global/news/pr/archives/month/2013/20130605-01.html

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Peteman100 said:
The delay could be due to Apple switching to IGZO panels, which are more power efficient than the current panel
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They are also thinner, and haver a better colorspace.
 
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