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MacBook Pro Upgrade At Photokina?
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ThunderLounge said:
I concur with you on the "minor update" being the things you mention, aside from the easy-access HD. I just don't see them changing the current case.
I can't see them replacing the MacBook case even next year, given it's a pretty new design. Sure, it's in the "style" of the iBook, but it's pretty different -- especially that keyboard.
I have long felt that a new case will appear along with Santa Rosa, since I always figured on SR requiring a redesign anyway -- plus, I think the only reason they didn't replace the case with the MBP's launch was they wanted to use existing "branding" on the first-gen x86 systems so people still thought of them as Macs. I guess they worried there was a risk they could be branded a PC vendor...
Soooooo.... IF MBP Merom gets radical design change, doesn't it technically make MBP a rev A?
Oh NOOOOOoooooo.
I don't want to see another thread after Merom update saying "wait for rev B aka Santa Rosa?"
This threads makes me chuckle
I'm planning to upgrade my current MBP 07 August or September.. so I win! bwaahahahahahah
ps.
Oh NOOOOOoooooo.
I don't want to see another thread after Merom update saying "wait for rev B aka Santa Rosa?"
This threads makes me chuckle
I'm planning to upgrade my current MBP 07 August or September.. so I win! bwaahahahahahah
ps.
Gurutech said:Soooooo.... IF MBP Merom gets radical design change, doesn't it technically make MBP a rev A?
Oh NOOOOOoooooo.
I don't want to see another thread after Merom update saying "wait for rev B aka Santa Rosa?"
This threads makes me chuckle
I'm planning to upgrade my current MBP 07 August or September.. so I win! bwaahahahahahah
ps.
So you get to hang out in all the "Penryn by....?" threads
ergle2 said:
That's a damn good point E. Damn good.
I hadn't even considered it, really. Although I'm not sure that anything they could have done would ever be interpreted as a "PC", but still taking that risk is a big gamble. Especially considering all the brand building that has been done over the years to make sure non-mac users knew they were more than just different.
With the switch to Intel, it is very possible that the general run of the mill consumer that isn't as deep into specific product knowledge, or as technically savvy shall we say, could very well have perceived the switch to Intel as Apple becoming just another "PC".
Definitely an aspect to at least consider, and keeping the initial transition to the new chips looking the same for the most part would make sense to help ease the visual transition.
Add a little bit or a variable with the MB, but not too much, and build that bridge of consistency between the two platforms before they go crazy with new and updated visuals.
I would really like to see a new design as well, but this article scares me...makes me think it may just be a processor swap. There are a few other things I'd really like to see that have been enumerated several times in this thread already. I'm really in a tough position right now. I was really hoping for an updated MBP before buying, but so far no luck. If I knew for a fact that it would be Thanksgiving before they were updated, I would buy one now. But I would hate to buy one, and see an upgrade mid-October (or sooner).
Completely off topic...
This is off topic, but I know people will read it...Woz on Colbert tonight
This is off topic, but I know people will read it...Woz on Colbert tonight
I wonder if apple realized they would have to keep up with the more frequent processor updates once they switched to intel chips. With PPC chips, they didn't upgrade as frequently, and it didn't really matter anyways becuase there weren't really any other computer manufacturers to compete with as far as that chipset goes. Now, though, they have to keep up with the rest of the intel computers in order to stay competitive.
coday182 said:
Where were you two weeks ago when we discussed this...?
But yes, I agree with you.
elevatorjazz said:
Oh please don't tease me like that!
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Here's an interesting article on the topic by the way, with tid bits of somewhat useful information about the 64-bit MacBookPros.
Multimedia said:
Those things are also important to me, but I want to feel like I am getting a product that is also competitively specced.
What I meant in my post that you quoted, though, in re: to the buying of a mac being like a science, was that there are so many rumours flying around of black anodized aluminum cases, merom, santa rosa, swappable hd, flash-based laptops, etc. that it's hard to know when one should stop waiting.
Perhaps it is easy for you to easily distinguish a winner, but I guess I'm not sure what I should be waiting for anymore. There will always be something newer and better on the horizon, so it can be tough to pick a time to say, "Hey, this is enough. I can't sacrifice anymore productivity over waiting."
edit: spelling
*crosses fingers*
My MacBook Pro left Alaska 8 hours ago! Here's to hoping it arrives Friday and not Monday!
Forgive me, I'm happy to have a current MBP and not a new one. Its my first Mac (sorta, I have a Mac now, but its not mine)
My MacBook Pro left Alaska 8 hours ago! Here's to hoping it arrives Friday and not Monday!
Forgive me, I'm happy to have a current MBP and not a new one. Its my first Mac (sorta, I have a Mac now, but its not mine)
A friend's college is selling NEW 15" MBP's with 256MB GFX cards for the same as Apple's current refurb price. "While supplies last."
You'll Know It When You See It
I know this may be hard for you to believe right now given the confusing rain of opinions and misinformation here, but I want you to know that you will be pleasantly surprised to know it when you see it. Your gut will tell you it's the one when it is.azzurri000 said:
something to be aware of that i saw elsewhere but i think was mentioned here before: this saturday is the end of the fiscal 3rd quarter for Apple. Therefore this coming tuesday is the first tuesday of the 4th quarter.
OK i am reaching, but i could believe that apple waited until 4th quarter to release specifically to have huge numbers in Q4. Of course, at this point we can always find a reason to justify the next tuesday for a release
OK i am reaching, but i could believe that apple waited until 4th quarter to release specifically to have huge numbers in Q4. Of course, at this point we can always find a reason to justify the next tuesday for a release
Apple's 4th Quarter Starts Sunday
I've already thought of this but never posted it and agree with you completely. Excellent call. And I don't think you are reaching at all. Very logical and possible.shecky said:something to be aware of that i saw elsewhere but i think was mentioned here before: this saturday is the end of the fiscal 3rd quarter for Apple. Therefore this coming tuesday is the first tuesday of the 4th quarter.
OK i am reaching, but i could believe that apple waited until 4th quarter to release specifically to have huge numbers in Q4. Of course, at this point we can always find a reason to justify the next tuesday for a release
shecky said:something to be aware of that i saw elsewhere but i think was mentioned here before: this saturday is the end of the fiscal 3rd quarter for Apple. Therefore this coming tuesday is the first tuesday of the 4th quarter.
OK i am reaching, but i could believe that apple waited until 4th quarter to release specifically to have huge numbers in Q4. Of course, at this point we can always find a reason to justify the next tuesday for a release
Boy I hope you're right.
Apple may not be going to the Santa Rosa platform
In the recent Apple Insider report about the Intel developers conference there is the following comment:
...Apple is not listed amongst the PC manufacturers who have committed to the Santa Rosa platform...
This could mean several things:
1) That there may be more weight to this rumour than previously thought (recent comment by chief of AMD). Is it possible that we really may see AMD inside Macs?
2) Apple is working with Intel in developing a proprietary platform for the Mac line that would enable Apple to leapfrog the current vanilla PC upgrade cycle and produce an offering that would be unique to Apple?
3) Has IBM come back to Apple with a proposal to use their CELL architecture inside the Mac computers?
If you think about it Apple has always marketed themselves as a "Think Different" company and they may have found that the current Intel roadmap just means that they are only able to offer that which everyone else is offering. (with respect to hardware systems)
Although the Intel roadmap has some fantastic potential, and the Core 2 Duo is no slouch, Apple may be reassessing their decision to go with Intel due to the obvious market demand that Apple keep pace with all of the other PC manufacturers. As commented on in an earlier posting Apple may be too small of a company to do the upgrade cycle every 4-6 months or they may now be looking at it and saying that Intel does not offer enough "uniqueness" for them.
Fascinating, I can't wait to see where Apple is going.......
Sopranino
In the recent Apple Insider report about the Intel developers conference there is the following comment:
...Apple is not listed amongst the PC manufacturers who have committed to the Santa Rosa platform...
This could mean several things:
1) That there may be more weight to this rumour than previously thought (recent comment by chief of AMD). Is it possible that we really may see AMD inside Macs?
2) Apple is working with Intel in developing a proprietary platform for the Mac line that would enable Apple to leapfrog the current vanilla PC upgrade cycle and produce an offering that would be unique to Apple?
3) Has IBM come back to Apple with a proposal to use their CELL architecture inside the Mac computers?
If you think about it Apple has always marketed themselves as a "Think Different" company and they may have found that the current Intel roadmap just means that they are only able to offer that which everyone else is offering. (with respect to hardware systems)
Although the Intel roadmap has some fantastic potential, and the Core 2 Duo is no slouch, Apple may be reassessing their decision to go with Intel due to the obvious market demand that Apple keep pace with all of the other PC manufacturers. As commented on in an earlier posting Apple may be too small of a company to do the upgrade cycle every 4-6 months or they may now be looking at it and saying that Intel does not offer enough "uniqueness" for them.
Fascinating, I can't wait to see where Apple is going.......
Sopranino
Sopranino said:
Althouh you made same very interesting points, I don't agree. Apple is already selling C2D desktops and is dug very deep into the Intel world. Even if they wanted to switch hardware supplier, I don't think they could with as much money as they have tied up in it.
S i said:Very useful, thanks. What I really need now is a mighty mouse cleaning guide. This forum has killed my scroll ball!
You know speaking of the mighty mouse, you wonder why they chose to use a scroll ball.... i mean scroll balls haven't been used in mice in any way shape or form for years... you'd think the mighty would have used either a wheel or something touch sensitive like the iPod