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SteveJoobs said:
I can't stand the suspense!

APPLE -- puhLEEZ update the MBP this Monday? Pretty please? Sugar on top? :eek:

I probably don't need the horsepower of a MBP with C2D, considering that I'm only going to use my computer for multi-track audio recording and occasional video editing.

But still. It would be nice to get a bleeding-edge MBP to take advantage of future OS & software improvements.

<<< Sending psychic message to APPLE: >>>
You WANT to update the MBP this Monday.
You REALLY FEEL GOOD pressing the "go" button on the update.
You don't want to be UPSTAGED by a mid-ranged. plasticky DELL, do you APPLE? :)
and to add to that would anyone like to buy a current macbook pro one day and the next week be upgraded to core2 duo? That would just suck
 
Clix Pix said:
If they only allowed the new iMac to get up to 3 GB RAM I doubt very much that they're going to increase the RAM to 4 GB in a notebook computer. Possibly they might get up to 3 GB, but even that is "iffy."

I don't think they'll upgrade the MB yet, but I can see where they might upgrade the MBP to Core Duo 2 with the option of removeable hard drive and also 3 GB RAM. Guess we will find out in a few days!

Why wouldn't they add 4 GB as an option? It's a pro laptop, and Dell offers 4 GB RAM at a high price. Since Apple offer 2 GB SO-DIMM's for $1500, an MBP with 4 GB RAM would only be around $3k.
 
Come on guys, it is going to be monday! Steve is not going to hold a special event just to release...an update to aperture? Maybe its me but aperture doesnt deserve its own event! There is something else coming and it must be the MBP! :)
 
I'm sure this is a dumb question, but I honestly have no idea, so bear with me - when products are released or announced at Photokina, is it just going to be on Monday, or could they be released on some other day during the week? :confused: I'm hoping for my sake and others waiting for months (that felt like years) they come out the 25th!
 
UCLA Bruin said:
Come on guys, it is going to be monday! Steve is not going to hold a special event just to release...an update to aperture? Maybe its me but aperture doesnt deserve its own event! There is something else coming and it must be the MBP! :)

I agree, completely, but, as others have pointed out, there are other products that could be updated in the MBP's stead. ...just to torture us.

woo woo! Merom iPod Hi-Fi on Monday!
 
SANITY METER DROPPING DANGEROUSLY LOW ...

Here I am, middle of the night, poking around on the internet, fretting about this C2D issue.

I think I should take a deep breath, put things in perspective, maybe get some warm milk ...

NAAAH!!! LET'S KEEP OBSESSING, SHALL WE? :)

A cursory search at online vendors (DELL & SONY) has produced the following info:

DELL (taken from DELL.COM)

o There are 6 (count 'em, SIX) models available with C2D, from their top of the line model M1710 down to the lowly Inspiron 1505.

o The M1710 goes for around $3000-$3200 with comparable features to the MacBook Pro (17" version). Can be expanded up to 4GB of SDRAM, although it's REALLY expensive. Strangely, Dell Canada offered a free 2GB RAM upgrade for free, while the Dell USA website did not.

o The bargain-basement Inspiron 1505 is $1700, with similar features to the MBP, but smaller screen (15.4"), and shared 2GB SDRAM 533MHz memory. Still comes with Firewire, USB 2.0 ports, 3 HD choices, and free scratch-'n-sniff T-shirt of Michael Dell.

Shipping dates are 1st week of October.

The SONY.COM website was less clear, slightly more difficult to navigate around. Typical Sony ... ha ha. I did find 4 models with C2D, shipping dates unknown, although I would suppose they're similar to Dell, if not imminent. If I remember correctly, my local Vaio retailer advertised the Sony C2D notebooks in their recent flyer, meaning they had them in stock.

What does this all mean?

Well, #1 I should get a life and stop obsessing about this, and #2 I really don't understand the logic behind Apple's marketing of the MBP.

It's probably one of the poorest-kept secrets out there in notebook-land, the fact that the MBP hasn't been updated.

If a person was in the market for a notebook computer, and did 30 minutes of online research like I did, they'd find that Apple is dragging their heels compared to other vendors.

It's especially perplexing considering the fact that Apple positions their MBP as a "pro" level machine, a flagship model.

It's like one car maker only offerering a 6-cylinder model when everyone else has announced they're shipping V8's.

Perhaps this will all be a moot point on Monday with the Photokina announcement, but I have a feeling that all of us MBP fans are going to be disappointed. I don't see any particular reason why Apple would consider next Monday to be a good day to announce MBP updates.

Why?

Well, #1 We're just finishing with the back-to-school notebook season -- would Apple want to p** off all those recent purchasers?

#2 The last update to the MBP was the release of the 17" in April 2006, if I remember correctly. That was only 5 months ago.

#3 I think Apple is being caught in a bit of a maelstrom that is outside their control. The maelstrom is this: the Intel product cycle is far more intense than the IBM PowerPC cycle was -- and now Apple has to position themselves against every other vendor who wants the C2D chip. And even if there are enough of the C2D's to go around, consumers can instantaneously compare platforms to see who has the latest and greatest platforms -- and in this case, Apple does not.

The whole mystique around the PowerPC/Apple architecture is long-gone now, an esoteric footnote from 2005. Mr. Consumer asks: how come a plain-Jane Dell laptop for $1500-$1700 comes with C2D, but a sexy MBP doesn't? :confused:
 
Of course, all this conjecture will be irrelevant in 2026 when we're using our neurally-implanted Macs with bio-gel pack processors and 8000 Terabyte holographic memory sticks.

"Computer! Tea! Earl Grey! Hot!"
 
SteveJoobs said:
<<< Sending psychic message to APPLE: >>>
You WANT to update the MBP this Monday.
You REALLY FEEL GOOD pressing the "go" button on the update.
You don't want to be UPSTAGED by a mid-ranged. plasticky DELL, do you APPLE? :)


Hold on.. i think i hear Steve actually doing someting with your wishful thinking. :rolleyes:

..aa noopp! he's taking a crap.... can't talk right now, see you all on crapytuesday
 
PowerPage says no Merom updates until late-Oct/early November. Man, that would be ludicrous.

I hope October's MBP's sales dip into oblivion.
 
evisa said:
I'm sure this is a dumb question, but I honestly have no idea, so bear with me - when products are released or announced at Photokina, is it just going to be on Monday, or could they be released on some other day during the week? :confused: I'm hoping for my sake and others waiting for months (that felt like years) they come out the 25th!
Apple are attention whores, if nothing else. If there are multiple products to announce that week, they'll avoid trickling, so that later announcements won't get lost in the previous day's hype.

I'm thinking that this may even be the "marketing reason" behind the Merom delays. Apple wouldn't want the updated iPod models to overshadow updated computer announcements.
 
I have a friend, who has a 2nd cousin that works at the Apple store.

He says that they're suppose to stay late on Friday, to prepare for a MAJOR RELEASE on Monday to coincide with Photokina.

In fact, they've been ordered to bring sleeping bags and dry food rations and camp out in the store over the weekend. And to keep their pee in bottles.

Rumor has it the new release will be the "iMUG", a Merom-powered, 4GB SODIMM enabled coffee mug. It will automatically keep your beverage at user-definable hot or cold temps. Even includes a robot stir-stick and non-dairy creamer dispenser. Retail price: $299.

But then again, this is only a rumor.

From my sick, sleep-deprived mind ... :p
 
SteveJoobs said:
Well, #1 We're just finishing with the back-to-school notebook season -- would Apple want to p** off all those recent purchasers?

They've been known to do that before :)
 
SteveJoobs said:
I have a friend, who has a 2nd cousin that works at the Apple store.

He says that they're suppose to stay late on Friday, to prepare for a MAJOR RELEASE on Monday to coincide with Photokina.

In fact, they've been ordered to bring sleeping bags and dry food rations and camp out in the store over the weekend. And to keep their pee in bottles.

Rumor has it the new release will be the "iMUG", a Merom-powered, 4GB SODIMM enabled coffee mug. It will automatically keep your beverage at user-definable hot or cold temps. Even includes a robot stir-stick and non-dairy creamer dispenser. Retail price: $299.

But then again, this is only a rumor.

From my sick, sleep-deprived mind ... :p

Damned, you actually got my hopes up until the pee in bottles biit.
 
djkny said:
PowerPage says no Merom updates until late-Oct/early November. Man, that would be ludicrous.

I hope October's MBP's sales dip into oblivion.

They're referrencing that same article/blog on Zdnet by O'Grady. So this isn't a new prediction.
 
I don't get it, the shippingtime for custom 17" is now 1-3 days again, was 7-10 yesterday.. So tiresome to try to put meaning into all this, especially since I have to make that meaning coherent and point to a superquick launch of new Merom MBP's...
 
SteveJoobs said:
Well, #1 We're just finishing with the back-to-school notebook season -- would Apple want to p** off all those recent purchasers?

Depends if they are updating MBP's AND MB's or just MBP's as I dont think the back-to-school people are considered the primary market for the pro models.
 
AppleKrate said:
Hey mactruc
because as soon as I had taken the plunge with my new mac I DID NOT WANT TO KNOW that the next big thing was around the corner, so I will be saying sayonara to macrumors (for a while at least ;) ) after I finally press the pay button...

True that!
 
ergle2 said:
I've heard of the odd case in the past where people got a better model shipped than they ordered. I've figured it's an error or perhaps stock problems with the cheaper models -- esp when they're changing over...

funny, just read this over on a blog

Well, that remains to be seen. But today Apple made me very happy. They announced a new, next generation iMac and sent me the following email:

To Our Valued Apple Customer:

Apple is pleased to announce the new iMac with Intel Core 2 Duo processor.
Because your order has not yet shipped, we will automatically send you a
new iMac at no additional charge.

Awesome.

http://threeminds.organic.com/2006/09/apple_makes_a_h.html
 
Hey, What's up?

Since the last days, I can read stuff that is related to the MB/MBP waiting madness. Come on guys, GET A LIFE!

Can you think to other stuff than Apple? Can you open the window (not referencing to the other cie) and see the sun?

You just play the game of big cies that don't care about people but only to their pocket.

Just let it go and get a life...for your sanity.
 
macintel007 said:
Since the last days, I can read stuff that is related to the MB/MBP waiting madness. Come on guys, GET A LIFE!

Can you think to other stuff than Apple? Can you open the window (not referencing to the other cie) and see the sun?

You just play the game of big cies that don't care about people but only to their pocket.

Just let it go and get a life...for your sanity.

Well...I have now read nearly thirty pages worth of painful, deluded wishful-thinking. ...but all that means is that i'm more committed than ever. i will check for updates with true apple fan-boi obsessiveness.



SteveJoobs said:
Well, #1 We're just finishing with the back-to-school notebook season -- would Apple want to p** off all those recent purchasers?

The computer I'm writing this on is a three year old Tibook that I got in September...about two weeks before the Aluminum PowerBooks were released. So i'd venture to say taht apple doesn't really have a problem with that sort of thing.
 
Argh i really want a macbook for uni cos its under a grand but i keep havin to wait until the newer version is released with the Merom chips. MBP are too pricey 4 me. Cmon apple make it happen for me on the 25th!
 
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