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MacBook Pro With Touch Screen and New Mac Studio Likely 'Postponed'

I don't see how delaying it will help overcome the supply problem. Memory chips are going to be in shortage until 2028, so whatever they release will likely be in limited supply until then, whether its in July 2026 or early 2027.

The only real solution would be to price it extremely high to cover memory costs so that they're competitive with what AI cloud providers are paying.
 
Elwe said:
The following has been very well-studied, and is required learning in many business schools: in each of the three major RAM supply crunches, it has been a significant mistake to deploy new capital to build out new production. The capital requirements are just too high, and the lag to production is too significant. It is better to wait until the crunch eases, and then, if still desired and needed, build out new production when certain upstream constraints ease. And when you can get better government subsidies, which will normally happen in the middle to end of the next recession. This is all from the companies perspective, not customers.
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Nevermind the fact that existing fabs and factories in SE Asia are grappling with energy shortages due to the war with Iran.
 
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Rychiar said:
That’s beyond ridiculous. We need a Mac Studio NOW! Why do they have no problems filling the laptop orders?
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I often wonder this. Studio has no screen, keyboard, touchpad or any hinge mechanism and is basically an plain aluminium box. Really would have thought it would be an easier and quicker process to make Studios even if not in the same volume as the MacBook's.
 
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Ugh, AI needs to crawl up its own ass and die already. This is a great article explaining how throwing more and more resources at the current form of "AI" won't fix the fundamental flaws of large language models. In other words, all these AI companies buying every last bit of RAM and processors and storage won't actually help them in cracking gen AI. In the meantime, the rest of the world gets to suffer.

We're Learning Backwards | Please Don't Cite Me

LLMs are brilliant at many things, but still fail in unreasonable ways. Is that an issue of scale, or something more fundamental?
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Matt2012 said:
I often wonder this. Studio has no screen, keyboard, touchpad or any hinge mechanism and is basically an plain aluminium box. Really would have thought it would be an easier and quicker process to make Studios even if not in the same volume as the MacBook's.
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I would guess that Apple plans to position the Studio with additional processing and memory power as a tiered replacement for the Mac Pro.
 
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ZipZilla said:
I used to think a touchscreen laptop was a gimmick...until I used one. I had one for work that ran Windows 10/11. It was very, very useful and Apple will sell a ton of them
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I have one - it's a total pass IMO. Using a secondary monitor as an eternal display means that I have one touch interface on the built in display and a second non-touch interface on the external monitor.

Totally useless feature for me and adds zero value at all.
 
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Elwe said:
The following has been very well-studied, and is required learning in many business schools: in each of the three major RAM supply crunches, it has been a significant mistake to deploy new capital to build out new production. The capital requirements are just too high, and the lag to production is too significant. It is better to wait until the crunch eases, and then, if still desired and needed, build out new production when certain upstream constraints ease. And when you can get better government subsidies, which will normally happen in the middle to end of the next recession. This is all from the companies perspective, not customers.
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How long as the longest RAM crunch been? I've been seeing this one isn't going to get better for 3 to 4 years.

3 to 4 years of sky high prices on RAM is going to destroy companies. It will cause such a massive drop in consumer spending that it will likely trigger a recession.
 
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Nick_P said:
The whole "rumor" doesn't make any sense. A RAM shortage would affect everything, not just new models.
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Different models have RAM with different specs. The M5 Studio ram is probably (hopefully) at the high end of the performance spectrum with very high bandwidth. There's probably lots of competition for that limited supply. Apple probably figures it's better to wait a few months until the price spikes settle.
 
UltimaKilo said:
At that point, why not simply postpone the devices an extra 3-4 months beyond that and release M6 versions?
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If they held off and did a M6 release at 3-4 months beyond that they'd probably wind up doing another disappointing release with the M6 Max in the lower tier Studio and obsolete chip architecture in the Ultra like they did with the M4/M3. That'd upset a lot of people again who assume that the top-tier most expensive machine should have the best-possible chip and capabilities.
 
Matt2012 said:
Really would have thought it would be an easier and quicker process to make Studios even if not in the same volume as the MacBook's.
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It is.
What's your point?
Shortages/delay of Mac Studio is due to shortages of memory.
 
Studio is selling so well, especially the high ram versions, because it’s the best value for money for local LLM machines. Far better than nvidia spark dgx and similar. THAT’s why the shortage of the machine and probably a delay of the new models until chip market stabilize or the accumulate enough chips.
 
The new touchscreen Mac wasn’t going to launch until the new OS anyway.. which will be in October….
I also don’t understand how ram shortages will push back the Studio… they still have to use the same “ram” to continue making the ones they are selling…. Granted, they will probably sell more computers, but isn’t that the point?
 
Nick_P said:
The whole "rumor" doesn't make any sense. A RAM shortage would affect everything, not just new models.
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But the new model will invite another flood gate of people pending upgrade. It’s better to hold that channel until the MbP line subsides.
 
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