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The saddest part about all this is that the RAM being gobbled up by AI businesses are being used to produce fake Titanic videos and gorillas fighting alligators.
Nobody wants a touchscreen on a Mac. The only utility I find is to be able to use the Apple Pencil. Is it worth it? Like the AppleVision, it's useless. Apple should always start asking itself "What will this be for? Why would anyone want to buy this?"
1. Make predictions
2. Predictions don’t come true
3. “Apple postponed the product…”
Why stop at iPad... I'd rather an iPhone that runs iOS when mobile and then macOS when docked via USB-C to a Display (with Bluetooth KB/M). It would be charged all day, theoretically be used as a trackpad in landscape mode, and then be ready to continue use on the way home from work/school etc as a mobile device.So disappointing to see Apple embrace the touchscreen laptop. Kind of feels like Apple is just trying random things to see what sticks, with no real thought as to what makes a good product.
A useful product would be an iPad that runs iPadOS when alone and macOS when docked. But no, that is not where Apple is going to go.
This is such a dumb claim to make when for the better part of 2 years the big story has been "when are all these features Apple announced for Apple Intelligence actually going to come out?".Gurman is the worst for this.
Apple never postponed anything that wasn't officially announced
The likes of Gurman try to save face by saying things are delayed when they are nothing of the sort.
Still, as they say, even a broken clock is right twice a day.
To your last point, people complain because they want to be seen by other people, complaining is an effective way of getting attention. Unlikely that Apple will change their HW plans or pricing regardless of what people in this thread have to say about this rumored change.MacBook Pro is a productivity machine. Only use case I can see for a touchscreen Mac in that regard is for digital artists. But I'm sure even they'd prefer a high quality tablet over a laptop touchscreen.
If Apple wants to make a touchscreen laptop to target this 0-15 demo, it should be put into a higher tier Neo, not the Pro.
As for your second point, you'll still have to pay the premium for the touchscreen even if you never use it. That's why people are complaining about it.
Factories that can make the kind of memory needed cost billions and years to build. Unless demand drops drastically, there are going to be supply issues for years.This RAM shortage is starting to get annoying. They either need to stop trying to build so many AI data centers or build more RAM factories.
So they are going to launch an M5 Max Studio, the most powerful devices Apple now sells, for the most heavy of work tasks, and then 3 months later they are going to launch a laptop with an M6 Max that outperforms the Max in the Studio? Sounds odd.
This has always been the case. Mac Studio never got an M3 Max, so we were stuck with the M2 Max/M2 Ultra until the M4 Max/M3 Ultra was released. And the Ultra being M3 instead of M4. I am just baffled at Apple's treatment to their desktops.So according to Gurman, the Mac Studio, Apples flagship computer, the one people keep saying Apple are and will be using to penetrate the Ai market with, will be a year behind the MacBook Pro in CPU? Yeah right… Basically he has no clue when the new Studio will launch and never has.
Yeah....macOS will become the next Windows 8 movement. People said this same thing about Windows, then we got Windows 8 and even worse Windows Server 2012. Everything was so simplified and BIG to support touch interfaces.....on a desktop with a mouse.They’re not gonna stay kids forever goofy. Apple has to evolve to stay relevant.
Anyway i really don’t see the problem. If you don’t want to touch your screen you don’t have to. Just ignore that it’s touchscreen and use it as before.
Sure you do 😄.You sound like Steve Balmer slating the iPhone. Microsoft had no vision about music player or phones.
YOU don't want a touch screen on a Mac. Many other people do. There are workflows you have zero idea about.
Apple vision is incredible and used in lots of industries you clearly know nothing about. I've made about 250K from it so far. They it become it's proper potential it will sell billions and will be the end of monitors and purely 2d User interfaces.
Because each mac studio is 16 mac laptops.That’s beyond ridiculous. We need a Mac Studio NOW! Why do they have no problems filling the laptop orders?
It is where you send the components... They are different factories, different production lines and different motherboards, among other things.I often wonder this. Studio has no screen, keyboard, touchpad or any hinge mechanism and is basically an plain aluminium box. Really would have thought it would be an easier and quicker process to make Studios even if not in the same volume as the MacBook's.
Good points and never thought of the keyboard layout issue!It is where you send the components... They are different factories, different production lines and different motherboards, among other things.
Apple plans in advance on estimates of how many of each type they are likely to sell, set up the production to make the correct number of chips and other components, ship them to the relevant factories etc. If there is a sudden surge in demand for one particular type of device that exceeds the planning, they have to scramble to get extra chips made, or divert them from other factories (which increases the costs) and get extra raw materials etc. in (E.g. aluminium for building the cases) and get extra packaging printed up...
They can, probably, do it, but it will take time to get things sorted. And, if they can't get the components (E.g. RAM), because they have been allotted to a different SKU or even a different chip version, they might not be able to fulfil demand at all. If they had been expecting the Studio to keep selling in the same numbers as this time last year and suddenly there is much higher demand, that is a lot of logistics that need to reworked to make that happen.
Especially if they have wound down the production of the M4 series Studio and have been concentrating on building up stock of M5 or M6 generation models, ready for a launch in the summer, that would mean there are no more chips in the pipeline to divert to the Studio, and they would have to restart the production line for a now "legacy" chip, or leave people waiting for a couple of months, until the next version is ready to ship.
The one plus point of the mini and Studio is the lack of keyboard in the box, you can redirect stock from one country to another more easily. With a laptop, or an iMac with keyboard in the box, that isn't possible, because the keyboard layouts will be different. I doubt many US customers would be happy if they suddenly got MacBooks with AZERTY (French) or QWERTZ (German) keyboards, for example, or even a UK keyboard, just as I wouldn't really want to have to use a Belgian keyboard (we have one Belgian user and when he comes in for support, it is always a pain finding our way around his keyboard).
It depends, I had a string of touchscreen laptops, from Samsung ATIV, through Surface Pros to HP Spectre and Lenovo models... I got the ATIV and Surface Pros, because I loved the idea of a tablet form factor, but they spent 98% of their time with the keyboard attached, so I switch to convertible for the next one, which spend 98% of its time docked and I used the touch maybe 1% of the time, it was nice to use, but such an edge case, I decided to not "waste" money on getting a touch version with the next laptop, because the extra cost just never paid for itself.I use a Lenovo Thinkpad w/ touch screen for work and when thinking on buying a laptop for personal use, I can’t think of anything less than a touch screen. Hope this is true. Everyone will love it.
Yes and no. They had to sign an agreement with Samsaung for iPhone chips for the A19 and 19 Pro chips at the beginning of the year and agreed to a 100% price hike in the RAM prices... So they might have a long lead time on RAM that gives them some protection, but they haven't bought an infinite amount of RAM.So Apple has long term pricing deals and production quotas on Memory for Desktops and laptops. No idea how long they run for though. Part of the reason they can price PC machines ironically out of the market.
I am pretty shocked Apple hasn't just bought a FAB or started their own at this point.
I am a 70+ year old. I am only 1 person. I will NOT buy a laptop that does not have a touchscreen. No Mac for me until one is offered with a touchscreen.No one asked for touchscreens