lol, its not stupid. i do it. people can do whatever they want. why burn them down like that? im sure you wouldnt want others picking on you for doing things differently to them.
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Macbook Pros slow down when Battery is removed
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lol, its not stupid. i do it. people can do whatever they want. why burn them down like that? im sure you wouldnt want others picking on you for doing things differently to them.
Why would you EVER want to use it with no battery? Its just nonsense... Not only it provides additional hassle of shutting down, turning it over (can be problematic with all sorts of cables plugged in), taking out/putting in the battery, etc, but it doesn't give you any significant benefit (if any?).
My MacBook is 25 month old, battery always in. It is at 217 cycles, 95% health and lasts 3.5 hours (only .5 hour shorter than when it was new).
My MacBook is 25 month old, battery always in. It is at 217 cycles, 95% health and lasts 3.5 hours (only .5 hour shorter than when it was new).
If you would rather me use other words, such as "pointless" then I can do that. I never said people cannot "do what they want", I just said this entire thread is stupid, because, it is. "Doing things different" is cool and all, but the entire point of this thread is nonexistent and absolutely pointless.
knew somebody would ask, couldnt be bothered justifying why i do it sometimes, and its already being discussed there. merge?
Hey guys, my Macbook Pro doesn't work when I take the hard drive out of it!!! This is RIDICULOUS. The hard drive adds weight to the machine and I don't want to be forced to replace it every two years when it wears out. This is a crazy Apple conspiracy, lets start an online petition and let steve jobs know that he cant bully us customers around!
I just bought a 4WD SUV. If I remove the radio, it automatically goes into 2WD mode. I have no idea why. Why would removing a radio cause it to go to 2WD for no reason?
That's a terrible analogy. It would be better to say that you just bought a 4WD SUV and you decided to take the battery out, and now it doesn't work to it's full potential.
A lion battery left at around 40% charge in a cool, dry environment (say in a sealed container in a fridge) will lose well under 5% charge per year. Unless they can provide an argument to counter the grade school understanding of chemistry required to understand why a warm battery left in a laptop and constantly topped up will degrade more quickly over time, most responses to this post come down to, "I have the money and lack of care for my environment to be wasteful for no good reason other than Apple's financial benefit - leave our clique, dissenter!"
When you're using your laptop for long periods connected to a power cord, the correct procedure that seems to be understood by anyone who isn't an Apple fanatic is to remove the battery.
As for the idea that laptops might not be connected to sufficiently well-powered outlets so have to always be throttled on AC - that is possibly the most outlandish piece of pro-Apple apologising I've heard in the last 5 years. What precisely is the pathetically engineered inefficiency that requires this laptop to consume so much power?
Look, take a deep breath and suck it up: Apple cost-cuts to the tiniest component on all its machines, and builds them as consumables with a shelf life as short after the 3 year Applecare as possible. If you burn cash like it's kindling and have more fashion than technical sense, the modern Apple is your target market. That doesn't mean it doesn't still harbour a legacy of technical excellence in NeXT and even some of the spirit that brought them through the '80s, but in terms of customer care they're a hollow shell of their once reliable interest in the high end user.
When you're using your laptop for long periods connected to a power cord, the correct procedure that seems to be understood by anyone who isn't an Apple fanatic is to remove the battery.
As for the idea that laptops might not be connected to sufficiently well-powered outlets so have to always be throttled on AC - that is possibly the most outlandish piece of pro-Apple apologising I've heard in the last 5 years. What precisely is the pathetically engineered inefficiency that requires this laptop to consume so much power?
Look, take a deep breath and suck it up: Apple cost-cuts to the tiniest component on all its machines, and builds them as consumables with a shelf life as short after the 3 year Applecare as possible. If you burn cash like it's kindling and have more fashion than technical sense, the modern Apple is your target market. That doesn't mean it doesn't still harbour a legacy of technical excellence in NeXT and even some of the spirit that brought them through the '80s, but in terms of customer care they're a hollow shell of their once reliable interest in the high end user.
Please point out where this correct procedure is documented? Heck, I'd even take a link from Dell. I've been using laptops since they first existed. I've never used one without the battery. I've worked at companies with hundreds of laptops. I've NEVER seen anyone use one without a battery, ever.
Seems to me that most "fanatics" are ones that post on threads like this.
http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?t=91846#post1696317
Preserves charge cycles
Keeps the battery temperature lower thus slowing the aging process
http://h20239.www2.hp.com/techcenter/battery/Battery_max.htm
Remove the battery if the notebook will be plugged into AC power continuously (via a wall adapter or docking station) for more than 2 weeks.
Better than nothing but a couple of issues:
1.) The first link is nothing but posts by an individual on a forum. I see no data to back this up. I could post the exact opposite but neither has any real credibility.
2.) The second link is from HP so much better. But please note it says:
"Remove the battery if the notebook will be plugged into AC power continuously (via a wall adapter or docking station) for more than 2 weeks."
This makes perfect sense. It means don't leave it plugged in for weeks without using it. It does not say to run it with the battery removed. There is absolutely nothing on that whole page that says you should or should not run the laptop with the battery removed. Anyone thinking it says to run the laptop with the battery removed needs some basic reading comprehension courses.
yes, load it down and try it out, nothing can happen ..
you have to do a check-run with sefault settings you see first ac-adapter und then battery-settings and dont forget to click "throttleling activ" and "coolbook active" before you start.
if you like it you must buy it to get full possibilities; but it's only for one machine, no transfer !
Because I might want to use my MBP as a small home server when I'm done with it as a main machine. It could fit into a drawer and with its FW800 port and maybe an eSATA Expresscard, I can use it with some decent external drives without it taking up too much space.
I'm not sure why it needs a battery to do something like this at full speed. And I only use mine as a desktop machine; it's in mint condition as it's only used with an external keyboard and display. 21 cycles in 24 months at 92% health. It seems a shame that in about 36 months, Apple will stop selling batteries for it, calling it obsolete.
The fact is this. It's not about removing/keeping the battery. It's not about the battery cycles. It's not about the price of the battery. It's not about when the battery is obsolete.
It's about Apple purposely clocking down the machines when the battery is removed FOR NO REASON. In this economy, it's a good thing to save money, but I guess the Apple fans don't care.
It's about Apple purposely clocking down the machines when the battery is removed FOR NO REASON. In this economy, it's a good thing to save money, but I guess the Apple fans don't care.
Thanks for your reply.
I haven't got the MBP yet. I just wanted to know, since I want the MBP, but use it at the same place for weeks. I prefer to run it without the battery in this case.
How do you know it's for no reason? There are lots of complexities in electronic designs today. Perhaps removing the battery cause the intended cooling mechanism to lose effectiveness?
Also, why does someone who doesn't agree with you have to a an Apple fan? Maybe we just don't agree with your point?
And here's my reason...
I got a MBP with a busted screen off of Craigslist. I took the screen off completely and now it's just a keyboard/computer. It works great this way. It looks kind of like an old Commodore 64. I'd like to use it as a desktop computer without having the battery in. I'd like to run it at home when I'm not home and use it as a small server without worry that the battery is going to explode and burn my house down when I'm not there.
I got a MBP with a busted screen off of Craigslist. I took the screen off completely and now it's just a keyboard/computer. It works great this way. It looks kind of like an old Commodore 64. I'd like to use it as a desktop computer without having the battery in. I'd like to run it at home when I'm not home and use it as a small server without worry that the battery is going to explode and burn my house down when I'm not there.
We can agree it's not flat. Can you bring up a relevant point?
People who don't agree with you may or may not be Apple fans, but they still don't agree with you.
Apple manufactures the product with certain design limitations. You're assuming they do the slowdown without a battery just to annoy you. That's certainly not true and there may or may not be a valid reason for doing this. Assuming this is just to make you buy batteries is silly. They make money by coming out with new products they want you to buy. They sell batteries because they have to, it's not like its some sort of huge cash cow for Apple.
If you really want to b*tch, then send feedback to Apple. That probably won't make any difference but maybe you will feel better.
