Why would apple ever make 8/256 the base when it used to be 4/128? At some point they will make a base with more RAM and/or more SSD.
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MacBook Supplier Ramping Up Production as 15-Inch MacBook Air Rumored to Launch at WWDC
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Ming-Chi Kuo literally said the 15” Air is going to be M2. Gurman said the same while speculating that M2 Pro could be an option for a high-end configuration.
Other analysts are also pointing towards the headset being powered by M2.
Additionally, MacBooks Pro and Mac minis just got M2 upgrades 4 months ago.
-Why is anyone still suggesting we’re getting any products with M3 for WWDC?
No way 15” Air gets to leave all the brand new M2 MBPs, M2 iPads Pro, and the $3000+ headset in the dust as the first and only 3nm Apple product.
Apple doesn’t need to do anything more than up the battery and display size on the Air to warrant millions of units sold.
Any other brand would add everything in their arsenal to get you to care. But not Apple, they don't have to.
15” Air will be M2. End of story.
Other analysts are also pointing towards the headset being powered by M2.
Additionally, MacBooks Pro and Mac minis just got M2 upgrades 4 months ago.
-Why is anyone still suggesting we’re getting any products with M3 for WWDC?
No way 15” Air gets to leave all the brand new M2 MBPs, M2 iPads Pro, and the $3000+ headset in the dust as the first and only 3nm Apple product.
Apple doesn’t need to do anything more than up the battery and display size on the Air to warrant millions of units sold.
Any other brand would add everything in their arsenal to get you to care. But not Apple, they don't have to.
15” Air will be M2. End of story.
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I really want to buy as I don't need the power of pro, only thing holding me back is the screen not being 90-144hz, in this day and age, comon..
I think people are just hoping it will be M3, more than they are realistically expecting it to be. I agree that it will be M2. I just am not sure where the 13” Air fits into this, if it will updated this year or not. A part of me thinks we will not see M3 until 2024.
For me it’s less about the refresh rate than about mini-LED. The HDR mini-LED display on the Pros looks almost as good as an OLED TV. The standard non-HDR LCD just can’t compete anymore.
The low end of the line gets lesser components, not just less power. Expecting otherwise makes no sense.
I was mostly unaware how much components had changed until forced into the direct A-B comparison with a new MBP, and when I went back to the still-working 2016 MBP the older less good display and speakers were dramatically obvious.
M1 was a huge hype and leap, yet Apple introduced it in their least powerful lineup: MacBook Air, 13 inch MacBook Pro and Mac Mini.
The M2 debut in the MacBook Air. Its obvious at this point, Apple's strategy will be start with the least powerful line up reason being, it has more volume in product sales. Premium systems like the 16 and 14 inch don't sell in the same quantities as the MacBook Air and even 13 inch Pro. Its even why we have yet to see a Mac Pro. I suspect the amount of 2019 Mac Pro's sold didn't even pass 1 million.
It will have the M2, but I wouldn't be surprised if we see another version of the M2.
How much ram do you think is necessary? I saw a review of a 8gb M1 Mac Mini and it seemed to fly, is having a lot of ram necessary in the new machines?
Depends on your camera, how complex your files are, and how many programs you tend to run at the same time. I would suggest 16GB as a minimum for PS work.
Only think I’d be running at the same time is maybe Safari, I don’t do much else with my current Mac, and I use a Sony A7iii so not the highest resolution images.
You'll benefit from more ram if you have lots of layers or are doing things like HDR stacking or panoramic stitching. My 16" MBP has 16 and I would never consider less. You also need a lot of free drive space, either internal or a fast external drive, to be used a scratch disk.
Yea I upgraded my mini to 16 a few years back, helped a lot, but now it’s painfully slow. It’s a late 2012 model so anything new will probably feel like something out of the future to me. The drive is something I forgot about, I think my mini has an old 5400 rpm drive, a nice ssd should really help things out. Do you think 512 is enough? I have a couple large external drives I use for storage, and I know these things can get really expensive once you start adding things since Apple charges so much for ram and storage.
Wonder if the new Macbook Air will be launched in a new colour.
That's a way more interesting question than the constant M3 chatter
Please come in more colours!
Neeh..unfortunately , Gurman inside source are spot on till now...100% spot on
So this will be a big surprise if the 15" will be under N3 Tsmc
if this is true, I just hope the price will be reasonable. I mean M1Air-style reasonable.
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Oh wait, if this air is equipped with an M3 chip, then in an Apple Store we will see an M1 Air, an M2 air and an M3 Air side by side? I think that's interesting! It's like an Apple products museum showing the history of M series chips lol. Now in the Apple Store of Madrid we can see iPhone SE, iPhone 12, iPhone 13 and iPhone 14 side by side, and I think this is quite crazy, but MacBook Air with all the 3 generations of M series chips? That's another level!
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Oh wait, if this air is equipped with an M3 chip, then in an Apple Store we will see an M1 Air, an M2 air and an M3 Air side by side? I think that's interesting! It's like an Apple products museum showing the history of M series chips lol. Now in the Apple Store of Madrid we can see iPhone SE, iPhone 12, iPhone 13 and iPhone 14 side by side, and I think this is quite crazy, but MacBook Air with all the 3 generations of M series chips? That's another level!
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If it was customer led I doubt they would have a base 8Gb configuration? We see continual posts about 8Gb being too low? Customer led means customer led.
In many respects Apple have been victims of their own success with the M1 iMac, which gave such a good account of itself that expectations rose about the M2, which in my opinion it never got near to the expectations, and with so much publicity surrounding slower SSD's, which is ironic really as for most people it would not have really made a significant difference.
True.
But the one thing that everyone in here is forgetting:
- iPhones 12 got 5 nm A14 in September 2020, followed by Macs getting M1 in November 2020.
- iPhones 13 got A15 in September 2021. (Some) Macs got M2 in June 2022 (M2 is at large just A15 with more cores, running at a higher clock speed)
- iPhones 14 got A16 in 2022. But (the A15/A16 based) M2 remains the newest Apple Silicon generation. High-end M2 Macs were introduced in 2023 (still same generation as A15/A16 though).
And why would Apple rush 3 nm in a product category with as small a market share as Macs?
Just to thwart a huge number of Q3-Q4 2023 M2 and M1 Mac sales and, even worse, steal most of the hype that iPhone 15 would have otherwise gotten as first 3 nm consumer product when it drops in September?
Apple will secure iPhone 15 sales by making it the first 3 nm smartphone. A17/M3 will then trickle down to other product categories on the following 2-4 years.
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120Hz is not going to happening this year. Maybe with the next gen displays in MBP.
What you actually mean is you want Apple to be “forum poster” led, not customer led.
I’ve literally never heard anyone say their M1 or M2 MacBook Air is too slow.
An interior designer in my office is rocking an 8GB M1 iMac making a living on Archicad. There’s shed loads of customers out there who don’t need any more than the base model M1 or M2 and don’t need to pay for extra ram.
I'm on my 13" M1 MBP. The two things I still regret about that machine is buying into the "8GB is enough" hype at the time (it's not, if you want to keep a bunch of apps open instead of having to close them all the time), and not getting the 1TB SSD (the 512 doesn't fit my entire archive of documents, which is really annoying on the road and having to search various cloud backups).
The M1, however, is still fine. I never hear the fans come on. Maybe once a week I'm actually taxing the CPU a bit and in most cases it's "would I really pay any kind of $$$ to make this export go faster?" It's SO fast compared to my previous Intel MBP it doesn't matter.
So what I need is 16GB (though I'm traumatised into wanting 32, and 24 is just weird), and a 1TB SSD.
And down the rabbit hole we go. Well, the 14" screen is nice, more screen real estate in pretty much the same form factor? Do want the 1080p camera. Magsafe is great too. Then there's also SD and HDMI, but hm well, use those maybe once a month and have the dongles. Oh hey there might be a 15.5" Air coming up? Which would be lighter? That's nice, a bigger screen, and the opportunity to get the RAM and SSD.
M1, M2, M3, pro and max, any of those would honestly be fine for someone who just has a zillion apps and tabs open and does some occasional tech testing and hobbyist video editing. Just want more memory and a larger screen.
So I'm mostly eagerly awaiting pricing and form factor: will the 15" Air be cheap enough to keep me away from Pro angst? Will it be light enough?
The M1, however, is still fine. I never hear the fans come on. Maybe once a week I'm actually taxing the CPU a bit and in most cases it's "would I really pay any kind of $$$ to make this export go faster?" It's SO fast compared to my previous Intel MBP it doesn't matter.
So what I need is 16GB (though I'm traumatised into wanting 32, and 24 is just weird), and a 1TB SSD.
And down the rabbit hole we go. Well, the 14" screen is nice, more screen real estate in pretty much the same form factor? Do want the 1080p camera. Magsafe is great too. Then there's also SD and HDMI, but hm well, use those maybe once a month and have the dongles. Oh hey there might be a 15.5" Air coming up? Which would be lighter? That's nice, a bigger screen, and the opportunity to get the RAM and SSD.
M1, M2, M3, pro and max, any of those would honestly be fine for someone who just has a zillion apps and tabs open and does some occasional tech testing and hobbyist video editing. Just want more memory and a larger screen.
So I'm mostly eagerly awaiting pricing and form factor: will the 15" Air be cheap enough to keep me away from Pro angst? Will it be light enough?
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