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MacBook Ultra: 5 Features That Could Justify the Name

Allen_Wentz said:
Some of us prefer to amortize a couple of $thousand extra over 5-7 years to spend the next 5-7 years using best hardware rather than using low end hardware. The cost delta is less than an Starbuck's plain black coffee every day.

Agreed the MBA and the Neo are great value. Each of us chooses.
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If you're doing it that way and pushing to more than 5 years you're probably getting worse performance on average over time than spending a couple of grand less and replacing more frequently, like every 3-5.

If you're using a 7 year old machine at any point, you're well behind current low-mid range performance at that point.
 
rembert said:
Never believed I was an Ultra, and this is one confirmation: this won’t be a laptop for me. I don’t need a thin lightweight OLED touchscreen (the horror) laptop. I need a powerhorse, which can be fat and ugly as long as it is capable to help me doing my work.
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Nothing about the rumored Ultra MacBook or whatever it ends up being labeled, appeals. Aesthetics, a thin profile and touch screen may appeal to the style conscious everyday user, but the proven performance of M4 Mac has served me well.

My 16" M4 Max MacBook Pro is peak MBP for my resource intense business workflow. Fast, efficient, fully capable of a wide variety of tasks, it's the ideal workhorse that I count on.

In fact it's just one of a few hundred in the company and serves as the cornerstone of the work we do. Having this high quality, proven laptop will allow me to sit back and be entertained by Apples upcoming vision of what a high end laptop should be.
 
Petite messe solennelle said:
OLED Display: I'm ambivalent about this (currently on a maxed out MBP 16" nano with brightness enhancement app)

Touch Screen: no no no

Thinner design: not important (less weight would be more important)

Dropping ports: no

Dynamic Island: no, no, no (I have as resolution 1728 × 1080 with which the menubar is below the notch)
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OLED Display: why not
Touch screen: nobody forces you to use it
Thinner design: unpopular opinion maybe, but I am a big fan of the 2019 Pro 16", which is a lot sleeker than the current gen and I know I am not alone
Dropping ports: nobody says they'll drop any
Dynamic island: right, this changes everything - it is inconvenient for you, so they should scrap that idea instantly.

I say good thing we've got options to choose from, huh?
 
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ATmahe said:
And no cellular modem?
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I mean, why? The personal hotspot is so well integrated in the macOS that you can barely complain about the absence of a built in cellular modem in the MacBook (which would require a separate SIM card among other inconveniences)
 
Colpeas said:
I mean, why? The personal hotspot is so well integrated in the macOS that you can barely complain about the absence of a built in cellular modem in the MacBook (which would require a separate SIM card among other inconveniences)
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Well, you can say the same for the iPad …
For me it is much more convenient to just connect or be connect without the hassle of using a hotspot which will drain the battery of the device providing it.
 
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zenmacx said:
My 16" M4 Max MacBook Pro is peak MBP for my resource intense business workflow. Fast, efficient, fully capable of a wide variety of tasks, it's the ideal workhorse that I count on.
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Colpeas said:
OLED Display: why not
Touch screen: nobody forces you to use it
Thinner design: unpopular opinion maybe, but I am a big fan of the 2019 Pro 16", which is a lot sleeker than the current gen and I know I am not alone
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The problem here is that people are thinking of a MacBook Pro "Ultra". But, the rumored, and, imagined by some, system is actually a MacBook Air "Ultra". In that instance, I have no problem with it, even if I don't want one. An Air with an OLED display, touchscreen, M5, and as thin as you can make it. In colors. Air "Ultra". Sure, why not?
 
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BSDnostalgia said:
The problem here is that people are thinking of a MacBook Pro "Ultra". But, the rumored, and, imagined by some, system is actually a MacBook Air "Ultra". In that instance, I have no problem with it, even if I don't want one. An Air with an OLED display, touchscreen, M5, and as thin as you can make it. In colors. Air "Ultra". Sure, why not?
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I celebrate choices, my travel laptop is a 13” M2 MacBook Air, much like my MacBook Pro it’s been ideal for the tasks at hand.

I don’t have any issue with the upcoming models, just stating what works for me and a vast number of other users.

As a longtime shareholder I do hope they sell in huge numbers.
 
So that means the "PRO" in MacBook Pro really isn't a pro but just an entry level macbook and that "ULTRA" is what the real MacBook Pro should've been all along.
 
212rikanmofo said:
So that means the "PRO" in MacBook Pro really isn't a pro but just an entry level macbook and that "ULTRA" is what the real MacBook Pro should've been all along.
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Nope.

Pro just means aimed at professionals - people who use the machine for their job. Not all professionals are rendering Murderbot or whatever. There are different levels of professional laptop requirement - otherwise the only pro laptop Apple sold would be a Max with 128GB of RAM and 8TB of SSD currently....

IF the ultra is higher spec with say, an ultra in it... think of this as more of a portable workstation with more of a power vs. size compromise than a "professional laptop".
 
212rikanmofo said:
So that means the "PRO" in MacBook Pro really isn't a pro but just an entry level macbook and that "ULTRA" is what the real MacBook Pro should've been all along.
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I think there is a problem here that is quite different. Some people have a very strong preference for OLED displays. Some people have a preference for touchscreen. Those two preferences do seem to fit well together. But, OLED and touchscreen are not "ultra" or "ultimate", they are preferences that might compromise some of the other "Pro" choices, and touchscreen, to be useful, compromises some of the niceness of the MacOS UI prior to "26".

My preference is to keep touchscreen on iOS and don't mess up MacOS. I wish Apple could figure out how to placate all the touchscreen enthusiasts out there with the next iPad Pro, so that they will stop pushing MacOS in that direction.
 
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jinnyman said:
Killer features for me would be cellular connectivity. Please bring this out!!
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My work issued ThinkPad T60 (circa 2006) was equipped with Verizon cellular connectivity. Our company and our competitors for that matter, relied heavily on cellular ThinkPad models. With a stellar keyboard, vast configuration options, excellent anti-glare display and amazing durability they were leaders in the business laptop sector.

Apple, the masters of marketing spin somehow convinced their loyalists there was no need for such connectivity.
 
BSDnostalgia said:
The problem here is that people are thinking of a MacBook Pro "Ultra". But, the rumored, and, imagined by some, system is actually a MacBook Air "Ultra". In that instance, I have no problem with it, even if I don't want one. An Air with an OLED display, touchscreen, M5, and as thin as you can make it. In colors. Air "Ultra". Sure, why not?
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Yeah I figured it would be something in the lines of HP Zbook Studio, which was basically a fancy pro laptop, more than a step up over the regular ZBook performance-wise.
 
Colpeas said:
Yeah I figured it would be something in the lines of HP Zbook Studio, which was basically a fancy pro laptop, more than a step up over the regular ZBook performance-wise.
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The MacBook Pro already has the Z series portables covered.


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ah not sure about studio, I have not had one of those.
 
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