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MacBooks, MacBook Pros, and Pro Apps to See Updates at WWDC?

wankey said:
Seconded! Apple is going in the right direction with the embedded battery idea. In my entire computing experience I've never ever had to take out my battery unless it was to dismantle my computer. There are enough plugs in the world to keep your laptop charged. I cannot imagine a place without power unless you are an extreme user that goes out to hunt Lions with your macbook (why you are bringing a macbook for such an occasion is beyond me)

I wouldn't mind 6 hours of battery life, more efficient design and much much sturdier case (since we're talking about 2 pieces only!)

That, and put in a matte display. Golden.
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I'll take the matte display only if they do a better job with the cosmetics. The black bezel is an integral part of the overall UMBP design... the matte UMBP 17" looks broken, like a car that lost the front bumper or something. Like Apple wanted to punish customers for having the audacity to question their decision to go glossy. "What's that, you don't like our hamburgers? Oh, vegetarian are we? Fine, chew on this cactus then."
 
Anuba said:
"What's that, you don't like our hamburgers? Oh, vegetarian are we? Fine, chew on this cactus then."
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Ha, imagine if Steve personally said that to a customer? (hes a vegan, well, the kind that eats fish)
 
NT1440 said:
Ha, imagine if Steve personally said that to a customer? (hes a vegan, well, the kind that eats fish)
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Heh, I could totally picture him saying that. He's well-behaved when there's a microphone and/or an audience around, but apparently kind of a rude ****** in less formal contexts. There was the time when he told environmentalists to p*** off and "go save some whales"... or that journalist he called up and addressed him as a "slime bucket"... I'm getting a Soup Nazi vibe.

- Next!
- Hi, I'd like a MacBook Pro...
- One MacBook Pro.
- ...but I was wondering, could I have it with a matte scr -
- NO MAC FOR YOU! Next!

He had a matte one over for his old friend Woz, though...

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JFreak said:
Oh my God, please, NO !!

The original battery in my MBP just died and had to be replaced. I'm glad I could do it myself instead of paying big bucks for letting someone else do it while suffering long wait time.
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Find a screw driver, take out 8 screws, lift old battery out, insert new battery in.

I don't think this is void your warranty, but if you break something whilst you put the battery in or take it out, then it will.
 
MB and MBP updates? So close to the yearly Sept./Oct. refresh?

Here's some possibilities:
- Integrated 3G
- Non-removable, longer-lasting batteries, ala the 17" MBP
- Matte screen options
- Speed bumps
- Blu-ray

Of those, I think if they decided to go with the larger, non-removable batteries, I would think they'd hold off until Nehalem, as they'll have to do a bit of redesigning the internals anyway. But, you never know. Personally, I like having a swappable battery.

Here's what I think is most LIKELY:

For the 15", Apple will officially allow 8GB of RAM. They'll also introduce a matte screen option for the 15", and, if there are faster processors available, they'll bump the speed. Blu-ray is another option.

For the MacBook, I could see speedbumps, and maybe Blu-ray on the higher-end model. I would think they may also decide to axe the white MacBook (or make it education-only) at the same time.
 
VERY excited for the new Final Cut Studio and Shake/Phenomenon! :D Oh and Color better have an Apple UI now that they had to recode all the UIs in Cocoa anyway!

I was pissed about the last spec bump on the MacBook Pro because I bought mine 3 weeks before that. I follow all the rumors and usually know everything and I buy accordingly, but that processor spec on the mid MacBook Pro came out of nowhere. And now if they bump them again my laptop is going to loose tons of value by the time I resell it to upgrade a year or so from now! :mad:

Probably the only changes to the 15" will be a battery built in like the 17" that lasts way long, and slight spec bumps, but I don't see that happening for a while.

Anuba said:
- Next!
- Hi, I'd like a MacBook Pro...
- One MacBook Pro.
- ...but I was wondering, could I have it with a matte scr -
- NO MAC FOR YOU! Next!

He had a matte one over for his old friend Woz, though...

woz_macbook.jpg
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That is the 17" which DOES have a matte option!
 
LethalWolfe said:
Color getting a GUI face lift is about last on my list of things Apple needs to fix on that app. :D


Lethal
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It's not exactly first on my list either but it bugs me and the interface is ugly and very non-Apple. I'm pretty sure its obviously because they bought it from some other company like most of the other apps in Final Cut Studio.

I haven't used Color a lot though, but what I have i loved it. I did notice one bug while using it where it brings a whole clip in instead of what u have cut to the clip in your timeline so it is applying things to an entire footage piece that wasn't even part of the clip.

There are lots of things I want in the Studio in general. Like automatic Scratch placement etc.
 
Brien said:
MB and MBP updates? So close to the yearly Sept./Oct. refresh?
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You'd think so, but seeing that Apple's always had 8 months gap between each update.

March update doesn't count since it was a silent one and very silent one at that with very minor speed bump with the other component staying the same.


Saying that I don't think this update will be anything major.
 
LethalWolfe said:
Better media management is definitely near the top of my list of things to fix. I'd be fine w/Apple making I/O hardware as long as it was not tied to the software like Avid hardware is tied to Avid software. The options of products you get from AJA, BM, and Matrox is much nicer than being stuck w/Avid's limited hardware options.
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+1 for better media management! So obvious I didn't even think of it! :D

I see what you mean with regards to Apple locking FCP to their own break out hardware. I agree that the choice to use AJA or BM would be great for plenty of people - not to mention that fact that it keeps the hardware RRPs in control.

But I don't see Avid's hardware being limited at all. In fact, in my experience, this *limitation* provides the hardware / software stability that is VITAL in pro environments.

The next time I troubleshoot a BM driver issue (which I expect to be in about, oh, fifteen minutes! ;) ) I will be praying for real, honest to God, *qualified* break out hardware!
 
24fps said:
Shake has been EOL for years. What's this rumor about it being updated?
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This rumor:
https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/210895/

Many expected Shake to be replaced by a product code-named 'Phenomenon'.
I say replaced; but most expected the new compositor to be built on Shake's foundations and be packaged as part of the FCS suite. Many also thought the main reason for this was to bring Shake's interface more inline with the other pro apps; I took this to mean an entire FCS suite interface overhaul.

We can but hope!
 
wankey said:
Seconded! [...]There are enough plugs in the world to keep your laptop charged. I cannot imagine a place without power unless you are an extreme user that goes out to hunt Lions with your macbook (why you are bringing a macbook for such an occasion is beyond me)
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I can see it:
"I need a laptop that is sturdy enough to use outdoors, with a matte screen because I want to see the photos I take with the clients, not a reflection of my face! My name is N'Zimbwa. I am a safari tour guide and I am a PC"
:D
 
nplima said:
I can see it:
"I need a laptop that is sturdy enough to use outdoors, with a matte screen because I want to see the photos I take with the clients, not a reflection of my face! My name is N'Zimbwa. I am a safari tour guide and I am a PC"
:D
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LOL
 
Given that it's announced on WWDC, when would it start shipping?


My guess is that not so late since it won't be a change to mechanism inside MBP etc.


Heck, I recall CDs C2Ds shipping on the day it was announced.
 
nplima said:
I can see it:
"I need a laptop that is sturdy enough to use outdoors, with a matte screen because I want to see the photos I take with the clients, not a reflection of my face! My name is N'Zimbwa. I am a safari tour guide and I am a PC"
:D
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I saw a hilarious cartoon SOMEWHERE (can't for the life of me find it), but it shows a humanitarian group handing out the XO laptops to kids in an African village, and one of the kids is leaning over and whispering to another, "What the f**k is this S**T?! Where's my MacBook Pro?" :D :D :D
 
Anuba said:
He had a matte one over for his old friend Woz, though...

woz_macbook.jpg
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:confused: Uh...the 17" unibody has a matte option for $50. I guess you missed the 5,000-post thread wherein half of the posters were saying "YESSSS THANK YOU APPLE!!!" and the other half were saying, "WTF Apple what about the 15-inch???!!!" :D
 
check the dates...

fokket said:
Heck, I recall CDs C2Ds shipping on the day it was announced.
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Actually, no.

http://www.macworld.com/article/48846/2006/01/macbookpro.html

Jan 10, 2006

MWSF: Intel-powered MacBook Pro laptop unveiledby Mathew Honan, MacCentral

Apple expanded its laptop offerings beyond the venerable PowerBook line Tuesday, with the release of the MacBook Pro portable computer. Announced by Steve Jobs during his Macworld Expo keynote, the MacBook Pro is the first laptop from Apple to use an Intel-built chip, the Intel Core Duo processor.
...
While Apple is taking orders now, the MacBook Pro won’t begin shipping until February. The 1.67GHz, 15-inch MacBook Pro sells for $1,999, while the 1.83GHz is priced at $2,499. Build-to-order options will be available as well.
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Sehnsucht said:
I saw a hilarious cartoon SOMEWHERE (can't for the life of me find it), but it shows a humanitarian group handing out the XO laptops to kids in an African village, and one of the kids is leaning over and whispering to another, "What the f**k is this S**T?! Where's my MacBook Pro?" :D :D :D
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Someone PLEASE find this!! :D
 
Spotless said:
But I don't see Avid's hardware being limited at all. In fact, in my experience, this *limitation* provides the hardware / software stability that is VITAL in pro environments.

The next time I troubleshoot a BM driver issue (which I expect to be in about, oh, fifteen minutes! ;) ) I will be praying for real, honest to God, *qualified* break out hardware!
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By limitation I meant Avid users only have two or three current hardware options and none of them have the price/performance value that FCP users can get w/the dozen or so solutions provided by BM, AJA, or Matrox. What
BM gear are you supporting? We've got a ton of it here and the only things that are problematic are two old Multribridge Extremes. The other 8 or 9 cards have been pretty much bullet proof for the 8 months or so we've had them.


Lethal
 
jnc said:
Why's it so hideous? Would it have killed Apple to make the bezel all black? :confused:

Notice how they don't even show it on their own website...
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The bezel is all black .. Woz has some sort of film or screen over the LED screen.
 
LethalWolfe said:
By limitation I meant Avid users only have two or three current hardware options and none of them have the price/performance value that FCP users can get w/the dozen or so solutions provided by BM, AJA, or Matrox.
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Sure. I agree with that.
But there is a lot to be said for one-stop-shops! I prefer the Mac experience over Windows partly because the guys who design the hardware also make the OS. And I'm happy to pay a bit more for that, too.
In my opinion, all Apple needs to do to make FCS complete is to build the break out hardware.

What BM gear are you supporting?
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Its really just two particular DeckLink HD Extreme cards running 6.8.8 that are driving me mad, right now. Weird flickering on the SDI out, choppy analogue audio, setting changes not taking, stuff like that. I fix a prob then a different one pops up, I fix that and then another pops up.

I'm swapping the worst card for a new one. I may have just got a couple of cards from a bad batch.

Anyway. Bit of a thread hijack, there. Sorry bout that! :)
 
Spotless said:
Sure. I agree with that.
But there is a lot to be said for one-stop-shops! I prefer the Mac experience over Windows partly because the guys who design the hardware also make the OS. And I'm happy to pay a bit more for that, too.
In my opinion, all Apple needs to do to make FCS complete is to build the break out hardware.
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While I agree that controlling both the hardware and the software allows a level of integration typically not achievable by third parties I don't trust Apple to be able to make a reliable I/O card. I/O cards are based on precision and accuracy and those aren't things I typically attribute to Apple's ProApps. Apple's road to success w/the Final Cut Suite is largely based on the fact that it's inexpensive and it's good enough. If FCS+hardware had the same price tag as Media Composer+hardware a lot fewer people would pick FCS, IMO.


Lethal
 
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