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Awesomea000

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Hi!

Anyone have any idea of what the supported Mac list could go to biased on what happens on previous years? I have a MacBook Pro Early 2011 that I have maxed out with an SSD and 16gb RAM. Just wondering as it runs MacOS High Sierra spectacularly if it could run the new one or if I will get kicked off of the support list.

Let me know if you have any ideas and also tell me what Mac laptop you have (if you have one) just because hey, why not!
 
It’s anyone’s guess, really. It all depends on how what they change and if your hardware can handle that change. Apple either leaves the new feature(s) out or just gives up on that model completely.


MacBook Pro (mid 2010 / School and Personal)
MacBook (Early 2008 / OS X Hackers Test Machine)
 
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Generally when Apple drops systems, especially in the more recent years it's for no good reason other than wanting to force people to buy a new machine.

My 2008 mac pro flies on high sierra. As does my 2009 2ghz mac mini, and MacBook. The only device in these machines that was not working was the wireless card, which means they just decided to remove the driver, probably to use as an excuse to do it. I just bought a supported card off eBay for 15 bucks for the MacBook. The other 2 are wired anyways so It didn't matter too much for me.

If your 2011 isn't supported, someone will make it work anyways. There's always unsupported mac threads on this site.
The only recent drop that was justified for Apple to do was the old 32bit intel machines. (Which in my opinion shouldn't have been made anyways being as G5s were 64 bit) High Sierra literally runs on any x86-64 mac as long as it has the sse4 instruction set.
 
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Not a single Mac lost the support since the Sierra (that got released two years ago), so...I except that this year Apple put some models to the rest. If they don't it will be great, but still they probably will. I will be using my 15 inch mid 2012 MBP till the days Apple says "no more"! Even then, I will not sell it, but keep it alongside my new Mac, as long as it will be able to function.

All in all, I am happy that Apple is determined to keep Mac alive, and it seems that they really mean it when they say that Mac is the "heart and soul of Apple" (Tim Cook said it once not long ago). Introducing less expensive models tells me that Apple really wants people to use Mac. And people want to use Mac, too, it seems that they love the Mac, it is like people just want a little bit lesser price, and they will love it even more. Which Apple understands very well, it seems. I think that lower price Macs will be spot on (unless they happen to be very poor in hardware, for the price).
 
Without the new MacPro and MacMinis released yet, I would guess that it would be hard to delete any of the older hardware so soon after the newer models' release (if it ever happens).

Isn't 10.14 supposed to be more of a bug fix anyway?

I have a 2010 MacPro maxed out so perhaps it is wishful thinking!
 
I had 10.5.8 on a 800MGZ G4 iMac.
I have 10.8.5 pn a MacBook 2,1
I have 10.13.3 on a MacBook 5,2
I have a "Unsupported PC" running 10.13.3.

There will most likely always be a way to run unsupported macOS.
 
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Officially I can see the late 2009 Macs getting dropped. I’d be shocked if the 2010 Macs get dropped. 2011 will definitely still be suported. I’m sure dosdude will have a tool for the next macOS to run on unsupported hardware.
 
Rumours say that iOS 12 will be a kind of maintenance release, with bug/stability fixes. If macOS 10.14 will be the same kind of release, maybe no Macs will be dropped (I hope so, because than there is a possibility I can install it on my Mac mini Late 2009).
 
I already know my Mac won't be compatible with it. It can't get Sierra and I had to use a tool to get it to run High Sierra which it does surprisingly well, maybe there'll be a tool for the next OS on here too.
 
Generally speaking I believe Apple lets hardware hang around for about 6-7 years. Back in 2013 when Cook announced free macOS updates I believe the cut off year was 2007.
 
I have several Macs that are no longer supported, my favorite being a 17" MacBook Pro from Early 2011 which has been running MacOS Sierra quite smoothly. I've grown to like the large high-res screen, but Apple no longer makes an equivalent MacBook Pro.
 
I'm bummed that my beloved 2011 Mac Mini is not officially supported. Sad. It's our main family machine, too. Maybe they'll actually release a decent Mac Mini this year.
 
I have several Macs that are no longer supported, my favorite being a 17" MacBook Pro from Early 2011 which has been running MacOS Sierra quite smoothly. I've grown to like the large high-res screen, but Apple no longer makes an equivalent MacBook Pro.

Not sure where you read or saw that your Mac won't be supported but it will be supported. At WWDC they stated that any Mac currently running High Sierra is capable of running Mojave. 2010-2011 macs can run High Sierra, yours is an early 2011 so it'll officially run it
 
Not sure where you read or saw that your Mac won't be supported but it will be supported. At WWDC they stated that any Mac currently running High Sierra is capable of running Mojave. 2010-2011 macs can run High Sierra, yours is an early 2011 so it'll officially run it
NO. You're confusing what they said about iOS 12 (all devices that ran iOS 11 will be able to run 12).

They made no announcement about which Macs would be able to run Mojave, but the release notes make it very clear:

Supported Configurations macOS 10.14 supports: • MacBook (Early 2015 or newer) • MacBook Air (Mid 2012 or newer) • MacBook Pro (Mid 2012 or newer) • Mac mini (Late 2012 or newer) • iMac (Late 2012 or newer) • iMac Pro (2017) • Mac Pro (Late 2013, plus mid 2010 and mid 2012 models with recommended Metalcapable GPU) *Support for 2010 and 2012 Mac Pro models will be available in an upcoming beta

Edit: From MacRumors itself: https://www.macrumors.com/2018/06/04/macos-mojave-supported-macs/
 
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Good to know. Looks like I'll be selling my 2011 MacBook Pro. I wanted to give Apple a chance seeing that they support their devices for awhile but this is ridiculous. They cut off a seven year old laptop when Windows (pretty crappy sometimes in my opinion) can still run on machines just as old if not a year or two older? I didn't want to buy into the whole planned obsolescence conspiracy but this is enough to make me go back to Windows. That's total garbage
 
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Microsoft MIGHT support it, the driver providers, such as nVidia or AMD, does not (all the pre-CGN cards does not support Win 10).
 
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Microsoft (despite recent forays) is fundamentally a software company. They want you running their OS on any and all devices you have (some people even suspect they have nefarious motives with some of the spying/telemetry they do in W10). Ever since the debacle that was Windows Vista, with each successive release they have invested a lot of time and resources into maintaining adequate performance on old hardware just because that means more people potentially buying Office 365 or paying for OneDrive storage or whatever. They don't really care if you buy new hardware or not because if you do, you're generally buying it from Dell or Lenovo or HP or someone other than them.

Apple is a hardware company first and foremost. They make software too and also sell services. But hardware is their main gig and at some point they would rather you buy new hardware (which they profit from) rather than invest tons of resources in making old hardware run decently with their newer software. Seven years is when Apple hardware goes into Obsolete status and after that point they don't support it anymore.

You can disagree with it but that's just the way it is.
 
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