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iAppleOrchard

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macOS 13.5.1​

Release Date ― August 17, 2023
Build Number ― 22G90
Update Size ― 475.9MB (464770KiB)
macOS Storage Size after updating: Pending
Apple Silicon System Firmware Version ― Pending (System Information > System Firmware Version)
T2 BridgeOS System Firmware Version ― Pending (System Information > System Firmware Version)

New Features & Changes
Resolved Issues

  • Location Services (Settings > Privacy) is broken (see thread). App permissions to access location cannot be added or removed. Existing apps that were configured prior to upgrade should still work ok.
    • Workaround: Disable SIP / boot into recovery mode and hand-edit SQLite database. This "workaround" is not recommended!
New Issues
Remaining Issues
Untested Issues

  • QuickTime Player does not record the first couple of seconds when you use a Microphone (FB10086556)
    • Workaround: Wait around 5 seconds after seeing the yellow indicator in the Menu Bar, or use a different app for your recording needs
    • Issue present since macOS 10.13
  • Alarms may not play when your display is asleep for a long period of time (FB10086690)
    • Workaround: Make your display not fall asleep in Settings > Lock Screen > Turn display off on ____ when inactive. You can turn your brightness off.
    • Issue present since macOS 13.0
Additional Notes
  • Please know, Memory Management has always been an issue on any OS (not just Apple's). If you believe there is a Memory Leak, please go to the Apple Menu > Restart > Restart to fix it.
  • When a new macOS release comes out, all issues automatically go to "Untested Issues" until they are moved by someone. Issues that stay in Untested for 3 releases (beta or smooth) will be removed from all future threads. When there is a new macOS release, please be sure to let us know about the issue's status by moving it to either "Remaining Issues" or "Resolved Issues"
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Mac Hammer Fan

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Let us hope we have now a bug free OS at last. At this moment the public beta of Sonoma is useless for me.
 

Siliconpsychosis

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Settings>General>Storage no longer calculates Applications size now, i have about 12gb of app installed and it only lists 341mb. Persists after reboot and Onyx cleanup and reboot too

This was a totally clean install of 13.5.1 too uding DFU restore coming back from Sonoma beta to get the ventura firmware and completely wipe the disk. M2 Pro 14" base
 
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dvh

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I've had issues that MacOS finder smb file transfers to an external server were sketchy for probably a couple years. Transfers usually would fail with various errors. In any case on 13.5.1 this seems to be fixed. Has been 100% since tise update.

I tried the Settings>General>Storage applications size issue mentioned above. Works here, Size shown matches what Finder>Get Info... on the Application folder shows.
 

katbel

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Settings>General>Storage no longer calculates Applications size now, i have about 12gb of app installed and it only lists 341mb. Persists after reboot and Onyx cleanup and reboot too

This was a totally clean install of 13.5.1 too uding DFU restore coming back from Sonoma beta to get the ventura firmware and completely wipe the disk. M2 Pro 14" base
Are you still seeing the issue or after sometime it fixed itself?
 

Siliconpsychosis

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Are you still seeing the issue or after sometime it fixed itself?
i wondered if it was something to do with indexing in 13.5.1 as i usually disable indexing entirely. So i re-enabled it, confirmed it was running with mdutil in terminal, rebooted, and waited.

The issue persists, although now it lists 855mb of apps and clicking the "i" symbol doas now show some apps, but nowehere near all of them- its only showing most of the pre-loaded ones and definitely not any i have installed myself or through app store.

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katbel

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i wondered if it was something to do with indexing in 13.5.1 as i usually disable indexing entirely. So i re-enabled it, confirmed it was running with mdutil in terminal, rebooted, and waited.

The issue persists, although now it lists 855mb of apps and clicking the "i" symbol doas now show some apps, but nowehere near all of them- its only showing most of the pre-loaded ones and definitely not any i have installed myself or through app store.

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Thanks for your input!
I updated the MacStudio and it's a little slow but it shows all the apps ..probably it's indexing
I cannot find where to check the indexing or even change the sleep time as I used to in all previous systems
I did find the sleep sometime ago but cannot replicate or find it 🙄
Settings are so messed up!
 

thvv

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Siliconpsychosis wrote: Settings>General>Storage no longer calculates Applications size now, i have about 12gb of app installed and it only lists 341mb. Persists after reboot and Onyx cleanup and reboot too.

This has actually been a bug in Finder for a while.. I think I saw it in Big Sur.
There is an easy inelegant fix.
In a Terminal window, do cmd-option-esc and select Finder. The "force quit" button will change to "Relaunch". click it.
Finder will be killed and restarted. Cmd-I will now show the correct size.
 

Siliconpsychosis

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May 18, 2023
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Siliconpsychosis wrote: Settings>General>Storage no longer calculates Applications size now, i have about 12gb of app installed and it only lists 341mb. Persists after reboot and Onyx cleanup and reboot too.

This has actually been a bug in Finder for a while.. I think I saw it in Big Sur.
There is an easy inelegant fix.
In a Terminal window, do cmd-option-esc and select Finder. The "force quit" button will change to "Relaunch". click it.
Finder will be killed and restarted. Cmd-I will now show the correct size.
That didnt achieve anything, its not a problem with finder, its a problem with settings

Below screenshot makes the issue clearer
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