I have a suspicion that the 27" may be bumped all the way to a 32" with a similar, but cheaper, 6K panel from the XDR display.
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Fair enough.
I focus within a couple of apps mainly, and it is best for me to work full screen whilst having apps grouped in function on different desktops like mail and messenger to easily switch between tasks.
I agree. While I have purchased 7 Macs since my first Quick Silver Mac in 2001, this transition has me excited enough to replace my aging laptop and finally buy my first iMac. 9/11 marks the day my big Mac got stuck on a port in California for obvious reasons. It actually still works.
Assuming Apple only drops the rumored 24” iMac, I think the price for the base machine will tell us everything we need to know for the 30ish” iMac.
If the 24” is similar in price to the base 21.5”, then the larger iMac will most likely be the same price as it’s Intel counterpart as well.
However, if the 24” is similar in price to the 27”, then I believe Apple is positioning the future, larger iMac to be the truly professional device that will be in the mid $2,000s.
Who knows, maybe they would call that the iMac Pro still 🤯
If the 24” is similar in price to the base 21.5”, then the larger iMac will most likely be the same price as it’s Intel counterpart as well.
However, if the 24” is similar in price to the 27”, then I believe Apple is positioning the future, larger iMac to be the truly professional device that will be in the mid $2,000s.
Who knows, maybe they would call that the iMac Pro still 🤯
Apple is rumored to be working on new versions of the iMac desktop computer, and a launch could be coming in the near future, based on new signs found in the macOS Big Sur 11.3 beta that was released this morning.
According to 9to5Mac, there are references to two new iMac models in macOS Big Sur 11.3 beta 5, identified as "iMac21,1" and "iMac21,2." The new Macs use the code names J456 and J457, which were first revealed earlier this year by Bloomberg.
We don't yet know when Apple will refresh the iMac lineup, but there are new versions of the 21.5 and 27-inch iMac models in the works. Rumors suggest the new iMacs will feature a design similar to the Pro Display XDR with slimmed down bezels and no metal chin.
Rather than a curved rear design, the new iMac models will feature a flat back, and at least one of the new models will measure in at 23 to 24 inches. Apple silicon chips will be included, and some dubious rumors have pointed toward color options that match the iPad Air colors.
Apple recently discontinued the iMac Pro, which was a high-end iMac option that was first released in 2017. With signs of the new iMacs in the current Big Sur beta and the iMac Pro discontinued and out of stock, we could see the refreshed iMac models in the not too distant future.
Article Link: macOS Big Sur 11.3 Beta 5 Includes References to Two Unreleased iMacs
I’ll also go in a limb and say Apple is rumored to be working on an iPhone 14, future MacBooks, and additional
Products.
These are specific indicators of an imminent launch of two new iMac models. Not sure what your point is.
You could say that about many Apple products, especially ones like iPhones that are on regular release schedules. Yes, we know that new iMacs will be released at some point in keeping with Apple's announcement to move to ARM within two years. That puts a potential new iMac as far out as June 2022, even if we think it'll be sooner. So, for people like me who are eager to replace older iMacs, any clue that this may happen fairly soon is welcome.
People here complain about all sorts of stories, and yes, some are more newsworthy than others. But the titles are enough for anyone to tell if the piece is likely relevant to them. That poster characterized the iMac story as "churlish" (he or she said they used the word in the context of discourteous, hardly different than rude, the term I used). Really? A story they feel is superfluous on a site they don't pay for is discourteous? Such entitlement.
Yeah, the most reliable of sources had pegged new iMacs either for "later this year" (Kuo, I think) or "towards the end of this year" (Gurman). All this mounting evidence of new iMacs likely being right around the corner, for imminent release within the next month or so, is extremely important for those in the market for an ASi Mac.
Completely agree. But I think most people in this discussion were talking about the external form factor when they discussed the design. We know the M1 iMac will have significant internal redesign and, unfortunately, it will probably involve completely soldered components and no user-upgradeable parts.
I want one, but if I cant hook it up to my work MacBook Pro then its going to be hard to justify.
Apple is rumored to be working on new versions of the iMac desktop computer, and a launch could be coming in the near future, based on new signs found in the macOS Big Sur 11.3 beta that was released this morning.
According to 9to5Mac, there are references to two new iMac models in macOS Big Sur 11.3 beta 5, identified as "iMac21,1" and "iMac21,2." The new Macs use the code names J456 and J457, which were first revealed earlier this year by Bloomberg.
We don't yet know when Apple will refresh the iMac lineup, but there are new versions of the 21.5 and 27-inch iMac models in the works. Rumors suggest the new iMacs will feature a design similar to the Pro Display XDR with slimmed down bezels and no metal chin.
Rather than a curved rear design, the new iMac models will feature a flat back, and at least one of the new models will measure in at 23 to 24 inches. Apple silicon chips will be included, and some dubious rumors have pointed toward color options that match the iPad Air colors.
Apple recently discontinued the iMac Pro, which was a high-end iMac option that was first released in 2017. With signs of the new iMacs in the current Big Sur beta and the iMac Pro discontinued and out of stock, we could see the refreshed iMac models in the not too distant future.
Article Link: macOS Big Sur 11.3 Beta 5 Includes References to Two Unreleased iMacs
Nah, I think if they were going to do that they would've done it at the same time the M1 MBA & MBPs were released (it would have been easy to release a base 21.5" 1080p iMac with the same M1 chip as the entry level air and an updated 21.5" 4K iMac with the same (extra GPU core/actively cooled) M1 chip from the MBP). As others have stated the current MBA & MBP designs are still relatively fresh, whereas the iMac design is getting pretty old. They delayed M1 iMacs so they could update the internals and design simultaneously.
I hope you're right, but Apple never really cared much about grxf performance.
Even all the high-end Macs of the past and present had "quite good" graphics, but never really high-end stuff.
I honestly believe Apple has Intel and AMD on the run regarding desktop and mobile CPUs. I do not believe Apple is coming close to AMD or nVidia regaridng GPUs. Geforce RTX 30X0 or Radeon RX 6X00 XT will be in a different league.
My 27" iMac from 2011 was in desperate need of an upgrade- M1 Mac mini with a Luna display to reuse the 27" display via thunderbolt bridge. Works amazing. Runs silent as it just launches a dummy user account with nothing in it.
Wow, there's a story. I'm not surprised it still works, of course. ^ ^
I must have owned about the same number of Macs since then. I think the modern iMac feels so good that I'm almost baffled by people whose main machine is a laptop; it feels like such a compromise between portable and full-fledged, like they just don't understand what they're missing. If you're going to have a main computer, have a main computer, you know? Have a desk, have a fantastic display, have some of the visual expansiveness, beauty and tranquility unlike what would have been possible for most people a decade ago.
Anyway, I hope you love it if that's what happens for you.
Tim Cook did say there were still more Intel based Macs in the pipeline. The transition is going to take 2 years according to Apple.
He said there were more Intel Macs in the pipeline before the 2020 27” iMacs were released. There are not guaranteed to be any more.
He said that at WWDC 2020. 2 months later new Intel iMacs were introduced. I think those were the only ones he was talking about. I don't even think there will be updates to Mac Pro before the switch next year.
TFLOPS is not everything but the rumored 128-core GPU would be crazy fast. It would faster than any GPU on the market, including GF 3090!!
M1 8 GPU cores 2.6 TFLOPS
M? 16 GPU cores 5.2 TFLOPS
M? 32 GPU cores 10.4 TFLOPS
M? 64 GPU cores 20.8 TFLOPS
M? 128 GPU cores 41.6 TFLOPS
Radeon Pro 5700 6.2 TFLOPS
Radeon Pro 5700 XT 7.7 TFLOPS
Radeon Pro Vega II 14.06 TFLOPS
Radeon Pro Vega II Duo 2x14.06 TFLOPS
GF RTX 3060 14.2 TFLOPS
GF RTX 3060 Ti 16.2 TFLOPS
Radeon RX 6800 16.2 TFLOPS
GF RTX 3070 20.3 TFLOPS
Radeon RX 6800 XT 20.7 TFLOPS
Radeon RX 6900 XT 23 TFLOPS
GF RTX 3080 29.8 TFLOPS
GF RTX 3090 35.6 TFLOPS
Maybe, but I dont think Apple would so lightly drop support for external GPUs from AMD and nVidia, which are crucial for many pro users. Either they have come out with some compatibility solution so that the GPU can talk to with the ARM CPU, or Apple has something very powerful it its sleeve. Judging by the performance of the integrated GPU in the M1 which beats the hell out of AMD and nVidia best offering in this field, I wouldnt be surprised if the M2 is able to reach RTX 3060 class performance for low-end configuration and RTX 3070 for high end configuration. Apple cannot release a MBP or iMac that is slower graphic-wise, from its predecessors. This means that we should get something that is more powerful than Radeon Pro 5700XT in any case.
I want one Now
Apple is rumored to be working on new versions of the iMac desktop computer, and a launch could be coming in the near future, based on new signs found in the macOS Big Sur 11.3 beta that was released this morning.
According to 9to5Mac, there are references to two new iMac models in macOS Big Sur 11.3 beta 5, identified as "iMac21,1" and "iMac21,2." The new Macs use the code names J456 and J457, which were first revealed earlier this year by Bloomberg.
We don't yet know when Apple will refresh the iMac lineup, but there are new versions of the 21.5 and 27-inch iMac models in the works. Rumors suggest the new iMacs will feature a design similar to the Pro Display XDR with slimmed down bezels and no metal chin.
Rather than a curved rear design, the new iMac models will feature a flat back, and at least one of the new models will measure in at 23 to 24 inches. Apple silicon chips will be included, and some dubious rumors have pointed toward color options that match the iPad Air colors.
Apple recently discontinued the iMac Pro, which was a high-end iMac option that was first released in 2017. With signs of the new iMacs in the current Big Sur beta and the iMac Pro discontinued and out of stock, we could see the refreshed iMac models in the not too distant future.
Article Link: macOS Big Sur 11.3 Beta 5 Includes References to Two Unreleased iMacs
"That shows there is a demand for larger." Absolutely. I'm not too sure a larger-than 27" iMac would sell well, but I think plenty of freelance pros (me included) and smaller firms would love to outfit with the Pro Display XDR and separate CPU, but it's just too much to invest, esp when you have to sort out a stand option for more even more $'s. My 27" retina iMac has been perfectly adequate as far as color quality for my needs, but I would love a dedicated Apple branded display with a more portable CPU option, whether MBP, Mac Mini or a scaled down MacPro. I used to drive a 30" ACD w/ Macbook pros but after replacing four fried logic boards, that became a no-go. Though not my desired option, went for the iMac and it's been great, but I miss the portability.
Being able to view a larger area when zoomed in at the level needed at times in Photoshop and Illustrator. Less scrolling when coding, document writing, or viewing websites. Being able to see more of the world space in game engines and 3D modelling packages. More flexibility with the timeline and image size in video editors. These are all things that cannot be split across monitors (I'm using 2 x 27", so my game engine is set up to fill both screens for example).
Vertical space is the main thing gained by a larger screen. I'd rather have a squarer aspect ratio than ultrawide (the screen coming down further to cover the chin area would be amazing, but I don't expect that to be the way Apple removes the chin).
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