Already this is going to flop.. Catalina May be the last version to run on intel. I think this new OS looks like a toy and not a real Apple Mac OS X. Cook is destroying Apple !
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long live Linux.
Ok, I figured it out. This is the same arbitrary move Apple pulled with Sierra.
The supported line was arbitrarily drawn at '2014 and newer plus 2013 Mac Pro' with older models sharing a model ID with a supported machine also included.
That 2013 Air? Same A1465/A1466 6,1/6,2 model identifier as a 2014 Air. Same story with the Late 2013 Macbook Pro: Both the Late 2013 and 2014 are MacbookPro11.1/2/3 machines.
I'm going ahead and installing Big Sur now...downloading was.....nearly painless...
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The familiar macOS bootup sound is back!
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The familiar macOS bootup sound is back!
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This startup chime. I don’t blame you that you don’t know. It has been a loooooooong time since we have heard the startup chime.
There were just over 4 years between the announcement of the transition (June 2005) and the release of 10.6 (August 2009)
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Yeah. The only difference is that the new startup chime has a deeper tone to it. In other words, it has more bass.
I thought I heard that in the video. Apple said they've redone most of the system sounds.
What I find to be a lot disingenuous is, there’s an obvious iOS-ification yet zero acknowledgement. At least, I didn’t hear any acknowledgment of the obvious. Listening to Craig, you’d think this is a brand new, never before seen interface. Yet obvious to all watching, quite a lot of work was done to change the appearance towards iOS.
And, what did does that fix that was broken?
Elephant in the room, anyone?
oh yeah, and all this talk about bezelless design to get more usable workspace — how about reducing the oversize, childish-plain headers above every window with the flat stop sign circles as a first step?
Sorry to be a downer, but too much of OS enhancements over the past seven years are in a direction I find little benefit from.
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1. There will be an emulator. Might be a slow one but there will be.
2. Hacking things to run OS that wasn’t designed for it is a gimmick at best. Why bother?
3. Now way that Mac Mini is at a grand. I’d say it will be the same price.
4. Windows has a lot more legacy apps. And to move anything forward takes forever. I don’t see anything happening soon.
that was the real Mac experience.. those start up chimes.
At this point it is a glorified iPad, there is very little distinction now.it's still a mac, it will run mac apps, do mac things. relax, ppl
I will try their Big “poor” sur on my 2015 MacBook Pro since the 2012 won’t run it. I already don’t like what I am seeing, except for the PowerPC version 2 which is called Apple silicon.
You know what's funny? Steve Jobs himself has said that Mac OS X was set out for the next 20 years. It is now 20 years so now its macOS 11.
Steve lied ? It hasn’t been 20 years yet - 2003-2004 is 2024 or 2023 - that’s 20 years.
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Another lie Steve said - “and we have still great PowerPC products yet to come” - May he take that to the grave.
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Another lie Steve said - “and we have still great PowerPC products yet to come” - May he take that to the grave.
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While not a demo, they did show Terminal in the "We updated all our apps to work on the A-chips!" slide.
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I'm excited to see how this all plays out regarding the transition. At first, I was a little worried, but going back and watching everything again, I think they have this figured out. They've done it before, and it seems all the pieces are there to make it seamless for most (if not everyone) people using the Mac.
I was just quoting his words that came out of his mouth. Disagree, but its the truth.
The quote at 1:46:10 from Tim Cook is "We plan to support macOS for Intel Macs for many years to come". The two year quote is something else.
1. slow the main issue, currently sq1 still slow render windows x86 which market still struggle.
2. Cost and avaibility unknown test device loan.
3. Now i read they charge the mac mini as loan, 500 usd is okay but loan?
4. Yeah same think also.
Dude- that is a truly awesome observation and reference! I feel sad for anyone that doesn’t get it.
How soon they forget PowerPC and Rosetta. They are showing some applications that were using Rosetta, and game in arcade, but how about processor intensive examples. Yeah we know about doing photoshop and final cut on a iPad Pro. But a multi core ARM with built in GPU doesn't exactly equate to the same performance as a workstation. How about running VM? Lots of issues running linux on ARM. What does this do to anyone wanting to port games and you have Rosetta again. While the demo's show ARM being more capable now, I'm still left wondering is it a bit early still?