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macOS Catalina's Biggest Changes: What to Check Out After Upgrading

kukhuvud said:
Meh. FLAC is supported on the iPhone but I still can't add FLAC to iTunes/Music. I'm bummed that I still have to keep two copies of all my lossless, FLAC & ALAC.

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I think FLAC is supported or not supported at the application level. Some apps do and others like iTunes do not.
 
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I'll just say that long ago, iTunes was easy, fun and powerful. Later, they wanted to add features and slowly started making iTunes bloated and annoying. Rather than remembering what made iTunes a smart offering, they divided up its features and candidly, I find no value in having multiple apps when a good multi* media app would have worked just fine or a front end that engage multiple apps. Sorry but this person finds the death if iTunes to be more a statement about Apple's inability to return to days of yore to again make apps that were easy, fun and powerful.
 
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Just noticed that I can now put Hulu Live TV in 'picture-in-picture' - never could before but I loved doing it with YouTube.
 
Not upgrading. I have too many hardware musical instruments that have 32-bit applications macos apps that control them and I doubt the manufacturers will ever upgrade them. C'est la vie.
 
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Where's the mention that Catalina moves all of your work from it's previous location to Users>Shared>Relocated items>Security? Biggest load of BS ever in an OS update!!!
 
Queru said:
Best change for me - can’t use my Mac mini, can’t even downgrade properly to Mojave. It’s probably the time to finally jump ship.
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http://osxdaily.com/2018/09/29/download-full-macos-mojave-installer/ "follow the directions"! did this on the first beta of Cat. Cat hosed my time machine back ups too. was NOT a happy camper. had a second B/U drive unpluged, thank the stars. even my iTunes purchess were hose. No more beta bs for me. and NO DOT ZERO RELEASES. old lessens I learned and forgot. got reminded.
 
Worst UI. iPhone-to-Mac's file management messed-up. Jerk (photoshopped) dynamic desktop pic. Most services need to be subscribed. Wow, nothing appeals!
 
maverick28 said:
Actually, you can turn off Apple Music for good: luckily, the Music preferences are similar to those in iTunes, so launch them, go to the pane "Parental Control" or "Restrictions" and make sure the option "Apple Music" is selected. A screenshot for reference below.


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Thank you, I did not know this. Very helpful. I will change that setting when I'm home this evening. Appreciate the tip.
 
Don't do it. I took my Mac in to the Genius Bar today due to Dual Monitor no longer working and after extensive testing, they validated that there is indeed a defect in Catalina. So, I need to use single display until it's corrected.
 
GekkePrutser said:
Pretty meh release from a user experience point of view for me as a power user (and using it for work heavily)... I'm not really interested in dumbed-down iPad apps on my Mac, nor the explosion of iTunes (which I never used) into multiple apps in my dock - though they're easily removed. Screen time is irrelevant to me (I don't get why adults need something that's basically a parental guidance tool to control themselves 🙂). On the UX side Mojave was much bigger for me with its dark mode and selectable accent colours.

But there's lots of goodness under the hood though! More security with read-only OS partition, single-sign-on plugins that fix the mess that SSO was on Mac (especially when apps start supporting it), managed Apple IDs for work, user enrolment (though it'll need another iteration to be actually useful).

Another negative though is the many added dialog boxes with apps asking for permission to send notifications. You totally get swamped with them after the upgrade (which is a bit stupid considering how Apple made fun of Windows Vista's frequent UAC popups). They should have just enabled all of the pre-existing apps by default (as it was under Mojave!) and let the user disable them if needed through the preferences panel. The same with the "<app> wants to access Documents" - if I didn't trust an app I wouldn't install it in the first place 🙄. Really missing a "I know what I'm doing - stop bothering me" option - which incidentally Vista DID have 😛
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You have it so right. All the whistles and gloss slow down commercial users. The reason for Apple's success was not glitzy things that achieve very little, or multiple pretty emojis. Apple stormed on to the scene because its operating system was eminently usable, and allowed users to produce much much more than from a conventional system, with little fuss. That since Tim Cook has been a travesty and Steve Jobs must be turning in his grave at how Apple has developed with regards to the Mac. iPhones, yes they serve a purpose, iPads fair enough. But the Mac platform was to be eminently usable, and now every 'development' seems more about making it pretty, about getting the system to play little games, or downplay to accommodate iPhone and iPad, that its at a loss to its real usability, where the Mac could perform functions quicker and better than any other platform such was the ease of use and the dedication to being able to tackle functions thought impossible on a PC. NO MORE. Under Tim's reign with Jonny its 'about being pretty'. Some users including me want it to be a powerful tool that it once was, instead of multiple crappy playthings.
 
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GekkePrutser said:
I know it can be used for that, but I don't expect it to... I fully expect it to be a "let's just dump the iPad app over and be done with it" thing. Even Apple's own new apps are way too iPad-like.

For the same reasons that developers embrace Electron as much as they do. The apps it provides are way too resource hungry and a UI mess (not fitting into the platform at all) but it allows them to "fire and forget" on each platform. Way too often the Mac version is just a tick in a box rather than a well executed effort that actually integrates well into the platform. Again, Electron produced a few gems (Visual Studio Code as one of the examples) and a whole load of trash (Skype for Business, MS Teams from the same publisher, which definitely has the know-how AND the money to do things right)

The absence of such porting technologies forces developers to go back to the drawing board and in the process to determine how best to make an app fit inside each platform. This has over the years generated many exceptional Mac apps. While we all balk at the crappy generic Java ports (enterprise software in particular) that have been released for the platform over the years.

The point is: If you're really committed to doing things right, you will usually go for the full SDK option rather than what's basically a porting layer. iOS and macOS can already have a lot of code in common so two completely separate codebases haven't been necessary since the inception of iOS. For the UI layer yes, but those are different for a reason.

I'm sure this will drive Mac app abundance but I'm sure it'll be very few gems and a lot of half-hearted iPad ports.

Anyway it's here now... Let's hope I'm wrong and you're right! 🙂
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Bravo!! Well spoken & I completely agree!

this is exactly what led to the demise of blackberry 10 when a former engineer lead fame up with an Android port rendering app. Vendors ignored learning the platform n the blame further goes toBlackberry NOT working tightly with vendors of that platform months to a year before launch after iOS n Android already had a foothold.
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MikeyUnix said:
You have it so right. All the whistles and gloss slow down commercial users. The reason for Apple's success was not glitzy things that achieve very little, or multiple pretty emojis. Apple stormed on to the scene because its operating system was eminently usable, and allowed users to produce much much more than from a conventional system, with little fuss. That since Tim Cook has been a travesty and Steve Jobs must be turning in his grave at how Apple has developed with regards to the Mac. iPhones, yes they serve a purpose, iPads fair enough. But the Mac platform was to be eminently usable, and now every 'development' seems more about making it pretty, about getting the system to play little games, or downplay to accommodate iPhone and iPad, that its at a loss to its real usability, where the Mac could perform functions quicker and better than any other platform such was the ease of use and the dedication to being able to tackle functions thought impossible on a PC. NO MORE. Under Tim's reign with Jonny its 'about being pretty'. Some users including me want it to be a powerful tool that it once was, instead of multiple crappy playthings.
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mid say this began when CraigF began lead of OS X then macOS after Bertrand left n Cook kicked out Forstall.
 
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maverick28 said:
Good for you. "Why do you do the way you do when I don't" is never going to make into a good mechanics of the discussion.
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Right but you haven't said why...
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MikeyUnix said:
You have it so right. All the whistles and gloss slow down commercial users. The reason for Apple's success was not glitzy things that achieve very little, or multiple pretty emojis. Apple stormed on to the scene because its operating system was eminently usable, and allowed users to produce much much more than from a conventional system, with little fuss. That since Tim Cook has been a travesty and Steve Jobs must be turning in his grave at how Apple has developed with regards to the Mac. iPhones, yes they serve a purpose, iPads fair enough. But the Mac platform was to be eminently usable, and now every 'development' seems more about making it pretty, about getting the system to play little games, or downplay to accommodate iPhone and iPad, that its at a loss to its real usability, where the Mac could perform functions quicker and better than any other platform such was the ease of use and the dedication to being able to tackle functions thought impossible on a PC. NO MORE. Under Tim's reign with Jonny its 'about being pretty'. Some users including me want it to be a powerful tool that it once was, instead of multiple crappy playthings.
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What a load of absolute bollocks.
 
covalt said:
I wish Sidecar worked. Only get error codes or that it's disconnected. At least I have Astropad Studio in the meantime...
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my sidecar occasionally works ... looses connectivity and mouse/point gets stuck on the iPad ... I'm sure it'll be great once things are ironed out ... I'll be patient and its not critical for me enough to rollback by any means
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Tech198 said:
woner how this will work in VMware fusion... ? Possibly not a install clean off, but maybe an upgrade from Mojave.
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I clean installed and use parallels 14 (not updating to 15, but there are some networking bugs), fusion 11.5, and virtual box 6.0.2 ... they all work for me ... and I use fusion daily as my work VM
 
Ruggy said:
Actually, I've just checked and columns are still there. Plus, under view options you can select to have columns for things like genre, composer, movement name even so maybe it just deselected them in the update for some reason?
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You have column view? I am completely unable to find it. See picture. Could you explain how you were able to enable it?

Edit: Just did a google search, found many articles about the loss of column view in Catalina. Seems to be a lot of people out there with the same issue. I am really hoping you have found something here.
 

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After reading these comments, it seems this will be the High-Sierra 2.0 for me, as in I will be skipping Catalina as I skipped the other one.
 
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These three apps offer all of the functionality that was previously in iTunes, so you can still get to your music library, access TV shows and movies you purchased, and listen to your favorite podcasts.
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Not quite true: You don't have the free net radio any more. It's gone. Only way to listen to the stations is to make playlist of your favourite radio stations before upgrading to Catalina. The streams in playlist are working normally in Music app.
 
In Catalina "The application “” can’t be opened".
Then I used "sudo spctl --master-disable". That didn't work, then I used chmod in terminal. That, after 2 hours finally worked...

I do not want to be protected, I paid £4,100.00 for a MacBook to run any program I want.
I have an iPad Pro if I want to be protected from malware. Really bad!
 
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miniroll32 said:
Possibly the first OS since Lion that I’ve not been excited about. I mean they actually removed features from music, and the new Photos app is a step backwards from what was almost perfect.
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I’ll hold off on upgrading to Catalina but I’m wondering what’s different/worse in the new Photos application.
 
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