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"These three apps offer all of the functionality that was previously in iTunes"
Sorry, but the loss of columns in the new Music app has mad it useless to me. When you have 10,000+ songs, it is vital to be able to sort by genre, composer, artist, and album. Trying to find a Beethoven piano sonata is next to impossible. Holding off on Catalina until Music includes this feature (if ever)
 
Syncing iPad, iPhone or iPod doesn’t work. You cannot see what’s on your device any more. iTunes is gone replaced by multiple apps You loose all the data on the iOS device and it all needs to be reinstalled in the “new format” all your desktop settings and backgrounds are gone 32 bit apps won’t work and need to be replaced Lots of vista parallels https://www.imore.com/when-your-looks-windows-vista-something-isnt-right
Only takes hours and hours of your time to try to sort it all out. Just terrific.

(I been on macrumours since 2010 and I am still listed as a newbie ... go figure)
 
[*]No More 32-Bit Apps - macOS Catalina does not support 32-bit apps, which means some older apps might not work after upgrading. This mostly only applies to apps that haven't been updated in a long time, but it's still something that may take users by surprise. For more info, make sure to check out our 32-bit Mac app guide.

This right here is why I'll be staying on Mojave for as long as it gets updates (and possibly even after that). I've got a number of applications (mostly games) where the developer is no longer around and which will not work on Catalina.

Of course it helps that there isn't really anything compelling and new in Catalina - with a mature product, that's what happens. Really there hasn't been anything particularly new and compelling in macOS / OS X in several years.
 
I wish Sidecar worked with iPhones as well as iPads. I do macOS coding for multiscreen uses and sometimes I just need a small confidence monitor, the iPhone would work fine for it.
 
Anyone had any problems with the mail app? It is a cluster-bleep on iOS 13.

I usually come off cleanly with upgrades but boy did I get it on this one. For my Exchange account I am getting blank messages (the name and subject are there but preview lines are blank and the messages are blank). close out and reopen Mail, sometimes the preview comes back but the messages are still blank.

I rebuilt the mailbox, doesn’t help. I removed and readded The account, nada. I am also getting mbox errors trying to reimport old mails that previously worked under 10.14.

Exchange support in this version has a real issue. I am having to resort to using Webmail or possibly install Outlook.

The other really bad bug *has* to be autocorrect. It’s is very aggressive in basic writing but yet frequently misses capitalizing the first letter of a new sentence.

this upgrade sucks (notice it didn’t capitalize This?)
 
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How do you do it? I tried to buy something with iTunes (Mavericks) and it just spins. Also doesn't have song previews anymore... Luckily I have all my songs downloaded but sad to see this go.
Search keyword used: iTunes 12.6.5 Catalina
 
Confirmation pop-ups are the most horribly annoying development in UX design. I think UX engineers think it’s cool that they too can build in an annoying dialog box just because they‘ve seen it in other apps and programs... “And look at this mom, I even put in this cool little verification pop-up that asks you if you are really sure you want to call Lifeline.”

Yes, I want to call that number. Yes, I want this app to access photos. Yes, I want this app to talk to that app.

There‘s some instances where confirmation makes sense, like if you are deleting something and can’t get it back. But otherwise, just get outta my way. I’ll hang up the call if I didn’t mean to make it, and I’ll use settings to tell any apps I don’t want you accesing photos. Gawd.
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Pretty meh release from a user experience point of view for me as a power user (and using it for work heavily)... I'm not really interested in dumbed-down iPad apps on my Mac, nor the explosion of iTunes (which I never used) into multiple apps in my dock - though they're easily removed. Screen time is irrelevant to me (I don't get why adults need something that's basically a parental guidance tool to control themselves :)). On the UX side Mojave was much bigger for me with its dark mode and selectable accent colours.

But there's lots of goodness under the hood though! More security with read-only OS partition, single-sign-on plugins that fix the mess that SSO was on Mac (especially when apps start supporting it), managed Apple IDs for work, user enrolment (though it'll need another iteration to be actually useful).

Another negative though is the many added dialog boxes with apps asking for permission to send notifications. You totally get swamped with them after the upgrade (which is a bit stupid considering how Apple made fun of Windows Vista's frequent UAC popups). They should have just enabled all of the pre-existing apps by default (as it was under Mojave!) and let the user disable them if needed through the preferences panel. The same with the "<app> wants to access Documents" - if I didn't trust an app I wouldn't install it in the first place :rolleyes:. Really missing a "I know what I'm doing - stop bothering me" option - which incidentally Vista DID have :p
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Confirmation pop-ups are the most horribly annoying development in UX design. I think UX engineers think it’s cool that they too can build in an annoying dialog box just because they‘ve seen it in other apps and programs... “And look at this mom, I even put in this cool little verification pop-up that asks you if you are really sure you want to call Lifeline.”

Yes, I want to call that number. Yes, I want this app to access photos. Yes, I want this app to talk to that app.

There‘s some instances where confirmation makes sense, like if you are deleting something and can’t get it back. But otherwise, just get outta my way. I’ll hang up the call if I didn’t mean to make it, and I’ll use settings to tell any apps I don’t want you accesing photos. Gawd.
 
I presume there’s a lot going on in the background with each update.
Security particularly- it’s important to update to block holes which will help protect from malware, ransomware etc.
And losing 32bit is a pain, but it had to happen someday. You’ve got to make way for the new otherwise you may as well go back to Windows.
But MacOs has gradually been getting dumbed down since they started the integration process with the phone and ipad. Yes, handoff is useful but there are some sacrifices to take along the way.
As an OS I think it looks pretty boring these days.
The writing was on the wall when they dropped Coverflow. I remember the first time I saw that, it was a real ‘Wow!’ moment and for them to remove it speaks volumes. None of the OS have been as beautiful as Snow Leopard and I’ll bet if they released that today we'd all be raving about it.

Anyway, Tthe upshot is that if you feel like giving this version a miss and you don’t think there are any security benefits to be had by installing it, then go right ahead.

I haven’t had any problems with it but there’s nothing new or interesting in it at all that I can see.

Every feature that’s mentioned except Sidecar (odd name by the way) is something I could do already in another way.

It’s pretty clear that if the main change is to go from one app with three links in it, to three seperate apps that do exactly the same thing, there’s not going to be much to see.

Otherwise, it’s things being taken away, fonts that are the wrong size, things being in different places or done in a different way. I will adapt but there’s nothing here at all to get enthusiastic about.

Meanwhile, Photos keeps telling me I have a new memory and putting together images in a way I don’t want, to music I don’t like. This isn’t progress.
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"These three apps offer all of the functionality that was previously in iTunes"
Sorry, but the loss of columns in the new Music app has mad it useless to me. When you have 10,000+ songs, it is vital to be able to sort by genre, composer, artist, and album. Trying to find a Beethoven piano sonata is next to impossible. Holding off on Catalina until Music includes this feature (if ever)
I think it's the inevitable move towards voice control.
The way they want you to use this stuff eventually is to say, 'Hey Siri, play me...'
Actually, I've just checked and columns are still there. Plus, under view options you can select to have columns for things like genre, composer, movement name even so maybe it just deselected them in the update for some reason?
 
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Have they updated the Messages App?

In iOS 13 they updated messages so the search function actually works. Have they done the same for macOS Catalina?
I think so.
It seems to search inside the messages rather than just the subject headings if that's what you mean.
 
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Music no longer works for me on iMac :-( Locked out of account (something about US store which has no bearing on my account) Now I have to get all my music through phone.

Edit : just had to sign out of Music and then sign back in for the accessibility problem, somehow had switched to US store. Sorted out by Apple Assistance
 
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So if I buy a 15" in store tmro will it still come with Mavericks or will Cantina be foisted upon me ?

I want to upgrade in coming months.... but not to this turd OS
 
MacBook Air 2016 hung at "Setting up Your Mac" 45 minutes. Boo! LOL!
Me too. Very buggy. Initial login my Swiss keyboard had been reset to a US keyboard forcing me to spend several minutes troubleshooting to figure out why my password was not being accepted. Had to reboot several times before it finally worked as System Preferences had frozen. And then Timemachine stopped working forcing me to reboot again. Airdrop is about 10 time slower and for my 2015 Macbook no sidecar. I don't use iTunes on my Macbook so apart from automatic dark mode there is nothing really new.

I never tried this before but asked Siri for the temperature in my apartment, which is measured on my Hue motion sensor in °C and it reported -5°C when it was 24°C. Clearly it was converting from °F even though the measurement is in °C. Who uses Imperial units anymore except the Americans? My iOS devices don't do this. Not that this is important to me but it shows how buggy this is.

I switched from Windows to Mac because of these sorts of problems. I can imagine Steve is rolling in his grave.
 
The password authentication feature should have worked on any Apple device with TouchID. Not just the Apple warch.
 
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Since I would like to still be able to use some old classic games like Tropico, Sim City and Civilization along with my Amiga emulator as well as the current WOWS I took an old internal drive I had that was just gathering dust and put it in a $10 enclosure and installed Yosemite on it. Now I can boot from it and use it as an alternative after I install Catalina.
You certainly brought a smile to myself. I remember back in 1998 I had an Amiga 4000T and that ran three operating systems:- Amiga OS, MacOS & Windows 98. It proved just how good the Amiga hardware and software was. It was great back in those days to run any software/games from any of the three platforms....... Happy Days 😉
 
Pretty meh release from a user experience point of view for me as a power user (and using it for work heavily)... I'm not really interested in dumbed-down iPad apps on my Mac, nor the explosion of iTunes (which I never used) into multiple apps in my dock - though they're easily removed. Screen time is irrelevant to me (I don't get why adults need something that's basically a parental guidance tool to control themselves :)). On the UX side Mojave was much bigger for me with its dark mode and selectable accent colours.

But there's lots of goodness under the hood though! More security with read-only OS partition, single-sign-on plugins that fix the mess that SSO was on Mac (especially when apps start supporting it), managed Apple IDs for work, user enrolment (though it'll need another iteration to be actually useful).

Another negative though is the many added dialog boxes with apps asking for permission to send notifications. You totally get swamped with them after the upgrade (which is a bit stupid considering how Apple made fun of Windows Vista's frequent UAC popups). They should have just enabled all of the pre-existing apps by default (as it was under Mojave!) and let the user disable them if needed through the preferences panel. The same with the "<app> wants to access Documents" - if I didn't trust an app I wouldn't install it in the first place :rolleyes:. Really missing a "I know what I'm doing - stop bothering me" option - which incidentally Vista DID have :p

essentially Apple forgot about respecting... “The User”
 
Safari's definitely not snappier this time...And I wish this was a joke. This has been a mess from the first beta, and my Mail and Preview search is still broken. The iPad apps are thus far a total disappointment. Sidecar doesn't work on my 2014 retina MBP. That being said, I hate the new MBP enclosure so much (I have a maxed out 2017 15" MBP for work), that once my laptop dies, I'll buy a PC for the price of an iPhone...
 
is there a widget for the notification centre for Find My? It used to have for Find my Friends but now its gone. It was very useful to coordinate heists. (Joking but still where is it?)

I'm really teed off that they removed it from iOS and MacOS. Its gone as far as I can tell. I filed reports in the betas to no success -_-.
 
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