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I always love these new announcements.

"Whaaaaa. A feature my computer didn't support when I paid for it still isn't present. I did absolutely nothing to contribute to its design or development, but I deserve it on the hardware I have now."

Sorry it doesn't work on your hardware even if you think it should. I guess I should be annoyed that my lack of an iPad means I can't use this, right?

I see all the clamoring for touchscreen Macs, but this particular evolution tells me that Apple gets it better than some other companies do. Despite not even having an iPad at this point, I think this is very neat. In fact, this WWDC and OS release are significantly more interesting than last year's. "Dark Mode. Yay."

I work in an office where everyone outside of development uses Microsoft Surface Books. You know how many people use the touch screens or tablet mode? I know this is anecdotal, but I've yet to see anyone touch that stuff beyond any initial novelty.
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On a positive note, the new Mac Pro's seem to be top notch at first glance (let's see how they hold up in real life though, as Apple's hardware testing team are clearly incompetent, going by the MBP's keyboards and screens, etc.), so that gives me some hope that the next iteration of MBP might actually be a good machine.

Maybe, just maybe, they will make a MBP that is actually PRO, and make it:
- a mm or two (or whatever it takes) thicker
- bring back a working keyboard
- strengthen the screen connector
- bring back ports
- reduce the track pad size a little
- bring back function keys (or at least make the touchbar an option, instead of mandatory)
- bring back seperate, interchangeable, repairable, recyclable, and upgradeable components
- increase the battery size to the maximum allowable on commercial aircraft
- and remove the screen bezels and thus change the size from 13/15" to 14/16".
Did I forget anything?

I am all for making machines easier to repair—or at a minimum, not doing things to intentionally inhibit repair like glueing in SSDs. I do hope that this redesign of the Mac Pro will bring about a change in the laptop line too. I don't want a boat anchor but, if I wanted a MacBook Air, I'd get one. The pre-retina models were some of the nicest laptops I ever worked on in terms of repair and upgrades. I'd like to see a design more like that. Apple's "commitment" to the environment is really hypocritical when the lifespan of a machine these days is primarily dictated by storage space. If changing out the SSD was simple, the service life of many of these computers would be greatly improved. (And they can clearly do it, look at how easy the new Pros are to open and change.)

Some of this is a little tired though.

"bring back ports"

I have 4 god ports on my 2016 MBP. Power, video, input devices, FireWire 400, serial, VGA, etc. I am now no longer beholden to what the laptop maker thought I needed. If I wanted two 10GB ethernet on a laptop, it's actually an option. I can connect a full-sized GPU to my laptop when at home if I want to game. Yes, I need an adapter for a USB stick but... somehow, I have managed to survive. I'm really enjoying single plug-in virtually everywhere. It's awesome.

When I'm on the road, I have a single (non-Apple) adapter that gives me all the ports I need. But, these machines have increase the proliferation of USB-C so, often times, I don't need anything else. Embrace the future. At some point, old ports go bye-bye. And despite that, carrying some kind of adapter that's lighter and smaller than your charger just isn't a big deal. If you need a specific adapter, carry one for your common workflow for crying out loud.

"reduce the track pad size a little"

I have never understood this one. At no point do I ever find myself thinking, "You know, I wish I had less room to work on my trackpad." I've thought the opposite with many PCs for years. But zero times have I wanted to shrink it.

"bring back a working keyboard"

I hear you though. I've really given it an honest go, but these keyboards just suck.
 
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Apple in macOS Catalina introduced a new feature called Sidecar, which is designed to turn an iPad into a second display for a Mac, either extending what's on the screen or mirroring the content.

Apple hasn't yet provided details on which devices will work with Sidecar, but developer Steve Troughton-Smith was able to find some details by digging into macOS Catalina's code.

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As it turns out, Sidecar is limited to many of Apple's newer Macs, and the devices listed below will be able to use it.

[*]Late 2015 27" iMac or newer
[*]2017 iMac Pro
[*]Mid 2016 MacBook Pro or newer
[*]Late 2018 Mac mini or newer
[*]Late 2018 MacBook Air or newer
[*]Early 2016 MacBook or newer
[*]2019 Mac Pro

It's not clear if this is a complete list, but Troughton-Smith says a long list of older machines are blacklisted from taking advantage of the feature. Some older Macs that are not greenlit for Sidecar can still use the feature via the Terminal command provided by Troughton-Smith, but there's no complete list on exactly which older Macs the Terminal command works with.


There's no word on whether all iPads will work with Sidecar, or if there will be limitations on that end as well. iPadOS, required for Sidecar, runs on The iPad Air 2 and later, the iPad mini 4 and later, the 5th-generation iPad and later, and all iPad Pro models.

The oldest of these iPads, the iPad mini 4 and the iPad Air 2, use A8 and A8X chips respectively, while the newer models all use more powerful chips.

Update: According to a MacRumors reader who has used the feature, Sidecar works well with the iPad Air 2, which means it should also work with all other iPads that are compatible with iOS 13.

Article Link: macOS Catalina's 'Sidecar' Feature for Turning the iPad Into a Second Display Limited to Newer Macs
[doublepost=1559876156][/doublepost]Man, gonna be sad if my 1st gen iMac 5k can’t run this. :/
 
Some of this is a little tired though.

"bring back ports"

I have 4 god ports on my 2016 MBP. Power, video, input devices, FireWire 400, serial, VGA, etc. I am now no longer beholden to what the laptop maker thought I needed. If I wanted two 10GB ethernet on a laptop, it's actually an option. I can connect a full-sized GPU to my laptop when at home if I want to game. Yes, I need an adapter for a USB stick but... somehow, I have managed to survive. I'm really enjoying single plug-in virtually everywhere. It's awesome.

When I'm on the road, I have a single (non-Apple) adapter that gives me all the ports I need. But, these machines have increase the proliferation of USB-C so, often times, I don't need anything else. Embrace the future. At some point, old ports go bye-bye. And despite that, carrying some kind of adapter that's lighter and smaller than your charger just isn't a big deal. If you need a specific adapter, carry one for your common workflow for crying out loud.

Yeah, nah. Yeah, USB-C is awesome, and yes, it is cool that MBP's have USB-C, and yeah, it will be awesome when/if all peripherals are USB-C. Nah, doesn't mean they have to ditch everything else before that's the case. Your personal use case means you "only" need one dongle (made me laugh), but that is only your use case, there are people I know who are endlessly frustrated with this. Like say, having to make a presentation, and going to plug your laptop in, but realise, oh no, I forgot my dongle!!!!! Or all the photography people who are WTF is with removing the SD card slot. And so on. So yeah, bring back ports. There is no good reason not to have USB-C, USB-A, mini-HDMI, and SD card reader. Not to mention magsafe! You don't want or need it, fine, good for you. Other PRO's do. If you want a single USB-C MacBook, fine, good for you. The rest of us want a PRO laptop, and one with ports, so we don't have to worry about forgetting our dongles, or for crying out loud, even having to own dongles.
 
Wonder if the version of Bluetooth is a factor
There is a wire version of this. So I don’t think so.
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I always love these new announcements.

"Whaaaaa. A feature my computer didn't support when I paid for it still isn't present. I did absolutely nothing to contribute to its design or development, but I deserve it on the hardware I have now."
Actually I paid for it. Because Apple no longer sells macOS!! I remember upgrading to Snow Leopard for like $29. I got all features. Now they include the OS development cost into their hardwares. And a new hardware cost a lot more than OS. So you have to buy a whole new hardware just for that one feature? It’s the same as buying a new Mac when some stuff they glued fail.
 
I always love these new announcements.

"Whaaaaa. A feature my computer didn't support when I paid for it still isn't present. I did absolutely nothing to contribute to its design or development, but I deserve it on the hardware I have now."

Sorry it doesn't work on your hardware even if you think it should. I guess I should be annoyed that my lack of an iPad means I can't use this, right?

I see all the clamoring for touchscreen Macs, but this particular evolution tells me that Apple gets it better than some other companies do. Despite not even having an iPad at this point, I think this is very neat. In fact, this WWDC and OS release are significantly more interesting than last year's. "Dark Mode. Yay."

I work in an office where everyone outside of development uses Microsoft Surface Books. You know how many people use the touch screens or tablet mode? I know this is anecdotal, but I've yet to see anyone touch that stuff beyond any initial novelty.
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I am all for making machines easier to repair—or at a minimum, not doing things to intentionally inhibit repair like glueing in SSDs. I do hope that this redesign of the Mac Pro will bring about a change in the laptop line too. I don't want a boat anchor but, if I wanted a MacBook Air, I'd get one. The pre-retina models were some of the nicest laptops I ever worked on in terms of repair and upgrades. I'd like to see a design more like that. Apple's "commitment" to the environment is really hypocritical when the lifespan of a machine these days is primarily dictated by storage space. If changing out the SSD was simple, the service life of many of these computers would be greatly improved. (And they can clearly do it, look at how easy the new Pros are to open and change.)

Some of this is a little tired though.

"bring back ports"

I have 4 god ports on my 2016 MBP. Power, video, input devices, FireWire 400, serial, VGA, etc. I am now no longer beholden to what the laptop maker thought I needed. If I wanted two 10GB ethernet on a laptop, it's actually an option. I can connect a full-sized GPU to my laptop when at home if I want to game. Yes, I need an adapter for a USB stick but... somehow, I have managed to survive. I'm really enjoying single plug-in virtually everywhere. It's awesome.

When I'm on the road, I have a single (non-Apple) adapter that gives me all the ports I need. But, these machines have increase the proliferation of USB-C so, often times, I don't need anything else. Embrace the future. At some point, old ports go bye-bye. And despite that, carrying some kind of adapter that's lighter and smaller than your charger just isn't a big deal. If you need a specific adapter, carry one for your common workflow for crying out loud.

"reduce the track pad size a little"

I have never understood this one. At no point do I ever find myself thinking, "You know, I wish I had less room to work on my trackpad." I've thought the opposite with many PCs for years. But zero times have I wanted to shrink it.

"bring back a working keyboard"

I hear you though. I've really given it an honest go, but these keyboards just suck.
 
Well this is disappointing, but I can't miss what I've never used. And there's no chance I am spending money on a new & highly flawed MacBook Pro as they are vastly overpriced. I'll wait for a redesign before deciding if it's worth the huge outlay or not.
 
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you mean the old Mac Pro? Why don't they just do an over the air hardware upgrade, Geez Apple! (umm, that's a joke)
[doublepost=1559857719][/doublepost]lets go all Rat B$%^tard on Apple, something not supported in the first developer Beta! The shame! BTW, the list is not an official statement from Apple
You mean the Mac Pro that hasn't got a confirmed launchdate? Are you suggesting that even though I can go into an Apple store today, and buy a new Mac Pro (the most expensive product in the Mac lineup), it's acceptable that it won't be able to support features that people are using right now?
 
ha, both my macbook and my ipad aren't making it)
Who needs Catalina when high sierra just get everything done and can do more? (Run 32bit apps, run virtualbox, run iTunes 12.6.5) I don’t miss it too much. If I do want this feature, I just fire up duet.
I did the terminal commands on my unsupported 2014 11" Air. It is not a good experience. The screen is very flickery like the VSYNC is off.
Hmm, this sounds inline with the skylake requirement and possible hardware decoder that actually makes this thing happen. Haswell processor is just not gonna cut it, even outside sidecar.
 
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First impressions:

I’m using 12.9 iPad Pro, Adobe CC 2018 & MacBook Pro 2017 - Display settings for a 4K screen

An image drawn on the glass renders approx. 3cm away on the document.
Curved lines render as a series of straight lines affecting a curve.
Very slow to render - almost a full second.
Sidecar is located in ‘preferences’ - I’d prefer to be able to keep it in the dock.
Perhaps due to my screen resolution, I only see approx. 25% on my iPad screen - no pan, zoom or scroll functions.
Only input accepted is Apple Pencil... no touch.

See pic. I drew a circle from where the guide lines intersect.

It’s going to be a great feature; eventually. Really looking forward to see how it shapes up in future betas...
 
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Getting Mac Pro 2019....so I hope iPad Pro 12.9 1st gen works.
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Are there any hardware limitations for this, or are Apple just taking the piss?

The Mac Pro that you can go into the stores and buy right now isn't supported!
Well yeah. New Mac Pro is coming out. 2013 is 6 years ago.
 
Thus why I clearly called it a “fossil”. Lol
I actually had a newer MBP but went back and bought the old 2015 for the keyboard. I didn't have any issues with the newer keyboard, I just didn't like how it felt. Plus having the Apple logo light up makes me more productive. :D

Know what.. and even though it's been 4 years, I MISS THE CHIME!
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They'll probably just port their technology over to Windows.

I think they already have (at least Duet Display)
 
Typical Apple move.

It's not about performance.
If a 2018 MacBook Air can do it, how can any retina MacBook Pro not be about to do it performance wise??
Not to mention 2013 Mac Pro
I get the impression that they are doing this sell new products.
 
So basically any MacBook with the new trash keyboard design?

Still not a reason to upgrade and deal with the hassle known as the butterfly keyboard. I'll stick with my mid 2012!
 
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I get the impression that they are doing this sell new products.

I'm not sure. This reminds me of the handoff/continuity saga a while back that required a certain bluetooth card to work.

At any rate, the two terminal commands work to enable it on unsupported devices.
 
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I was looking into this more, and found that Skylake Intel GPU has hardware assisted 8 bit HEVC encoding. Kaby Lake has improved hardware assisted 10 bit 4K HEVC encoding.

I’m surprised this feature will be supported on Skylake, it seems like it would need Kaby Lake to work well.
 
Update: According to a MacRumors reader who has used the feature, Sidecar works well with the iPad Air 2, which means it should also work with all other iPads that are compatible with iOS 13.
That would make sense that the compatibility limitations are mostly on the Mac side since I believe it’s the Mac that needs to do the heavy video processing.

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First impressions:

I’m using 12.9 iPad Pro, Adobe CC 2018 & MacBook Pro 2017 - Display settings for a 4K screen

An image drawn on the glass renders approx. 3cm away on the document.
Curved lines render as a series of straight lines affecting a curve.
Very slow to render - almost a full second.
Sidecar is located in ‘preferences’ - I’d prefer to be able to keep it in the dock.
Perhaps due to my screen resolution, I only see approx. 25% on my iPad screen - no pan, zoom or scroll functions.
Only input accepted is Apple Pencil... no touch.

See pic. I drew a circle from where the guide lines intersect.

It’s going to be a great feature; eventually. Really looking forward to see how it shapes up in future betas...
Thanks for this report.
Is this via WiFi or cable?
Did you mean 3 cm or 3 mm?? 3 mm is bad but 3 cm is crazy bad!

All those other issues makes the pencil unusable too though. But I thought I read that photoshop isn’t even supported. I don’t know if that’s the reason for all those issues, but I think there’s an api or something developers need to implement to add proper pencil functionality. There’s no pressure or tilt sensitivity, right?

How is the lag without the pencil? Is there a delay when just using the mouse? Or with video audio sync?
Any pixelation or articfacts when things are moving on the iPad screen?

Edit-
Eagerly waiting for more details on sidecar usability to come out. I’d particularly like to see a sidecar vs Luna display/Astropad review.
 
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