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LOL the only unaffected app is Apple's because they don't use their own API. 😂

It's good to be (platform) King.
 
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This is an unfounded conspiracy theory. This bug affects images imported to a Mac manually via the Image Capture app, not images saved in iCloud Photo Library. It's not a widespread workflow for people- most folks just let their device sync photos through the Photos app.
Well, I posed it as a question, not a theory. Here's another question: Have you tested whether this is actually limited to Image Capture? Has anyone compared the files and file sizes, of a photo taken on an iPhone, then synced (for many people automatically) to iCloud Photos, and in turn synced via iCloud Photos to a Mac? Has anyone compared the 3 instances of a photo synced in the various ways Apple does? Apple does charge a premium for storage in iCloud and on devices - so I simply asked the question. I'm happy if I'm wrong - but the question is legit.
 
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Is it possible this is more than just a "bug"? Apple makes a LOT of money from services including iCloud storage fees, and by inflating photo file sizes, more people would be nagged to upgrade their iCloud storage from the initial free 5GB, to a paid tier, to accomodate a larger iCloud Photo Library. There is potential financial motive here - anyone with the know how should look carefully at all files stored in iCloud to see if there is any similar artificial inflation of file size. It reminds me of the Wells Fargo scandal where staff were creating extra accounts in customer names to inflate their numbers...
Is it a bug in the human psyche that many people cannot accept randomness ('**** happens') and always have to find malicious intent behind anything undesirable? Or is it a feature that lets them feel superior for 'having figured things out'?
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Which came first? Photos.app or HEIF?
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Well, I posed it as a question, not a theory.
Therefore, if I insult you in the form of a question, that's fine then?

And in case you hadn't noticed, one often poses a theory in the form of a question. Your excuse is just as bad as simply saying something was meant to be sarcasm whenever one has said something stupid or offensive. A question mark might help with avoiding libel laws, but it is not fooling anybody.
 
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I don’t understand how changing your iPhone to shoot in JPG vs HEIF resolves this issue, as the issue effects JPG files. Wouldn’t shooting in HEIF fix it as they will import as HEIF?

also, who is importing from an iPhone via image capture? Use photos app or iCloud,
 
I don't understand, why a workaround is preventing iOS from shooting in HEIF. It's not the problem in HEIF, but in conversion. So if you work only with HEIF files, it should be fine, right?

I will never use HEIF again. Last year I shot an entire project with it because of the smaller file size... mistake! The compression is less quality than JPEG even if they deny it, you see a lot of edge sharpening but loose detail by weird smoothing in other areas.

On top of that, I lost compatibility with many software and people I work with was also unable to view photos and videos without codecs and converters. The hassle was massive, I learned my lesson.
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Had problems with HEIF or HEIC since day one. People sharing photos with me in this format on Dropbox or Box were not viewable on other iOS devices or older macOS desktops. Instructed people to turn off this format.

Question. How does this affect video recordings in this format?

There is a reduction in quality too. Apple says there isn’t but if you study them carefully side by side in a proper monitor you will see the difference. I cannot stress enough my recommendation to sticking to JPEG for regular jobs.


iCloud 50Gb $1 Microsoft OneDrive 100Gb $2 Google Cloud 100Gb $2

iCloud 200Gb $3 Google Cloud 200Gb $3 Microsoft OneDrive 1Tb $7

iCloud 2Tb $10 Google Cloud 2Tb $10 Dropbox 2Tb $10 Microsoft OneDrive Unlimited $10 (as part of Office 365 subscriptions)

Apple's iCloud is pretty competitive compared to some of the other large providers for consumers. In addition iCloud offers functionality to Apple users which the other do not.

What additional functionality does iCloud offer? In fact it is the least functional of all the services you mention. Paying for One Drive gets you a whole lot more, including professional software, G Drive as well brings a suite of functionality.

iCloud could not even drag and drop until recently, and only a couple of weeks ago implemented the ability to share folders. The only positive thing is that it is integrated directly into iOS, but that is it.
 
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Image Capture has been the best option ive found, other that using airdrop to slowly move thousands of images, but who wants to do that continuously?! However as of at least 6 months maybe way more, it started only being able to transfer 90% of my images and 10% of my videos... for you guessed it, failure to convert. So hopefully the fix to the bug will also fix this.
 
I don't know if it's related to the bug reported here, but there is this bug on iOS/iPadOS:

I select three photos on the Files app:

- Photo 1.HEIC: 1.1 MB
- Photo 2.HEIC: 0.8 MB
- Photo 3.HEIC: 0.8 MB

Total: 2.7 MB

Then, still on the Files app, I create a PDF from the selected photos by:

- clicking "More" then "Create PDF"
or
- clicking "Share", then "Print", then zoom in with two fingers, then click the Share button, then "Save to Files"

I get a 38.1 MB file!

And with pages in the wrong order: 2, 1, 3!

Nice!😩
Have you tried it on a Mac, as a comparison?

If the same thing (or near-same thing) happens on there, then it may be an inefficiency of printing straight to PDF format (unless you make the images smaller first, they're likely still very large resolution, perhaps?).
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And the solution is don't shoot in HEIF or HEVC :) This is a non-issue, folks.
No. The solution is to keep using them, as they're the future and offer better functionality, while jpg (while still used) is legacy. See others posts above as to why.
 
What do you think the chances of Apple releasing a tool to fix this are. Like an all-in-one batch processor to repair all the affected photos? Rather than just fixing the bug so it doesn't have this issue in the future.
 
Have you tried it on a Mac, as a comparison?

If the same thing (or near-same thing) happens on there, then it may be an inefficiency of printing straight to PDF format (unless you make the images smaller first, they're likely still very large resolution, perhaps?).
I selected the three photo files on (macOS Catalina 10.15.4) Finder, then right clicked on the trackpad, then "Quick Actions ---> Create PDF".

The pdf created has 38 MB.

But even worse than the huge size of the pdf: there are blank spaces in between the photos on the pdf (maybe to fit to the A4 format?), this makes the pdf unusable.

When I want to create a pdf from selected photos, I just import the photos to the Scanbot app on iOS/iPadOS.

I can't rely on Apple's Files or Finder on this!

EDIT: at least the photos on the pdf created on Finder are in the right order: 1, 2, 3!
 
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This is an unfounded conspiracy theory. This bug affects images imported to a Mac manually via the Image Capture app, not images saved in iCloud Photo Library. It's not a widespread workflow for people- most folks just let their device sync photos through the Photos app.
Have you seen Apple's prices for SSD upgrades recently? It's not just about iCloud. I smell some class action lawsuits coming.
 
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This is an unfounded conspiracy theory. This bug affects images imported to a Mac manually via the Image Capture app, not images saved in iCloud Photo Library. It's not a widespread workflow for people- most folks just let their device sync photos through the Photos app.

Bingo. It's seems some people can't be at peace and try hard to find something to get a case of the shakes about.
 
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This is an unfounded conspiracy theory. This bug affects images imported to a Mac manually via the Image Capture app, not images saved in iCloud Photo Library. It's not a widespread workflow for people- most folks just let their device sync photos through the Photos app.
But if this "bug" artificially makes JPG files far larger, suddenly when taken into consideration, HEIC/HEIF doesn't save close to as much disk space as claimed. And therefore the benefits to using a new and largely incompatible image format are lessened.
 
Bingo. It's seems some people can't be at peace and try hard to find something to get a case of the shakes about.
Conversely, given human nature and it's best friend: greed, I'm a VERY big fan of "trust, but verify".

Blind acceptance is equally bad.
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Is it a bug in the human psyche that many people cannot accept randomness ('**** happens') and always have to find malicious intent behind anything undesirable? Or is it a feature that lets them feel superior for 'having figured things out'?
That's one way of looking at it.

Personally, I'm glad there's "those" people out there double-checking to make sure we're ACTUALLY good to go, and not just HOPING we are.

I mean, Apple DID get caught slowing down older devices, so this doesn't seem so far-fetched.

A company has one goal: make money. Whether or not it's done ethically or responsibly is secondary, which is why the SEC, the FBI, and other government agencies stay busy putting white-collar criminals in their place.
 
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I have had repeated issues in which my iPhone 11, iPad Mini 5, and iPad Pro 2018 have all reported no storage space available after importing RAW files from SD cards. Despite confirming that all the RAW files have uploaded to iCloud and always having Photos set to “optimize device storage,” the space is still held by iOS and iPadOS. The kicker is that Settings shows the appropriate amount of space is available, but then I get insufficiant storage errors when attempting to ise the “free space.” I have report the issue to Apple multiple times, going back to early February. The only fix I have found is to restore the device.
 
Pretty annoying that we're nearing the potential end of Catalina and still stuck with many dumb bugs. This should be the most-stable / bugless version of it.
 
Today, we're hearing that the bug in macOS 10.14.6 and later is a lot more extensive than was initially believed.

NeoFinder developer Norbert Doerner, who originally discovered the bug, informed MacRumors.

NeoFinder is itself being updated on Monday to include a tool that can find and eliminate the unwanted data in JPG files. NeoFinder for Mac costs $39.99 and a free trial is available to download on the developers' website.
Three problems with this:
  • The vast majority of people import their photos via iCloud Photo Library, not Image Capture.
  • The majority of people who do use Image Capture likely don’t convert from HEIC to JPEG.
  • “Apple is apparently aware of the bug, but until a patch arrives, one short term workaround for future transfers is to prevent your iPhone or iPad from using the HEIF format when taking photos: To do so, launch the Settings app, select Camera -> Formats and check Most Compatible.” is bad advice for >99% of people based on the above.
So, basically, the developer of an app that can solve a problem that most users will never have is making a fuss about it and trying to make it sound more of an issue than it is. Wonder why? 🤔
 
Apple does charge a premium for storage in iCloud and on devices - [...]

iCloud 50Gb $1

Microsoft OneDrive 100Gb $2
Google Cloud 100Gb $2

iCloud 200Gb $3
Google Cloud 200Gb $3

Microsoft OneDrive 1Tb $7

iCloud 2Tb $10
Google Cloud 2Tb $10
Dropbox 2Tb $10
Microsoft OneDrive Unlimited $10 (as part of Office 365 subscriptions)

Apple's iCloud is pretty competitive compared to some of the other large providers for consumers. In addition iCloud offers functionality to Apple users which the other do not.
 
That's one way of looking at it.

Personally, I'm glad there's "those" people out there double-checking to make sure we're ACTUALLY good to go, and not just HOPING we are.

I mean, Apple DID get caught slowing down older devices, so this doesn't seem so far-fetched.

A company has one goal: make money. Whether or not it's done ethically or responsibly is secondary, which is why the SEC, the FBI, and other government agencies stay busy putting white-collar criminals in their place.
I am all for double-checking. But pure speculation based on that human bug/feature doesn't really add anything. It rather represents FUD and is the same method actual misinformation campaigns employ (like Russia did after rebels supported by them shot down a passenger aircraft over Ukraine, flooding the airwaves with all kinds of wild theories to create the impression that it is impossible to know the truth, in that case the Russian population as well as the Russian-speaking population in neighbouring countries were the main target).
 
I selected the three photo files on (macOS Catalina 10.15.4) Finder, then right clicked on the trackpad, then "Quick Actions ---> Create PDF".

The pdf created has 38 MB.

But even worse than the huge size of the pdf: there are blank spaces in between the photos on the pdf (maybe to fit to the A4 format?), this makes the pdf unusable.

When I want to create a pdf from selected photos, I just import the photos to the Scanbot app on iOS/iPadOS.

I can't rely on Apple's Files or Finder on this!

EDIT: at least the photos on the pdf created on Finder are in the right order: 1, 2, 3!
No, this is not the same thing. At all. Converting any 12 megapixel image to a PDF will result in exactly the same thing on any platform (iOS, Windows, Mac) unless you create the PDF with proper image compression settings and other settings that you’ll need to customize with either Preview or Adobe Acrobat DC/Pro or something similar.
 
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