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The latest beta update of macOS Monterey, released to developers today, has brought Live Text functionality to Intel-based Mac computers, removing the requirement for users to use an M1 Apple silicon Mac to utilize the feature, according to Rene Ritchie.

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Live Text, included in the forthcoming macOS Monterey, iOS 15, and iPadOS 15 updates, allows users to interact with text within images, such as phone numbers, addresses, and more. With Live Text, text inside images also becomes selectable, allowing users to cut and copy the text into apps.

Apple at first stated that an M1 Apple silicon Mac is a requirement for Live Text on macOS Monterey, but with the latest beta, it's been expanded to Intel-based Mac computers.


macOS Monterey, alongside iOS 15, iPadOS 15, tvOS 15, and watchOS 8, will be released to all users this coming fall. Learn more about macOS Monterey and all of it's new features using our guide.

Article Link: macOS Monterey Beta 4 Brings Live Text to Intel-Based Macs
 
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Hmm, I wonder if any of the other features that were found to NOT be coming to Intel based Macs will get the same treatment.

I won't be surprised if this isn't the case...but then one could also say that this could be a sign of that possibility.
 
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So when I want to copy text from idiot Apple apps (like Music.app) that won't allow me to copy some text fields, the workflow will be
- screen capture the Apple app
- use Live Text to copy it from the screen capture
?

That seems like, uh, "something". Something yes, but progress is definitely not the word.
 
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So planned obsolescence... There's no reason why a 2017 or 2019 MBP can't support it. I wonder how many other features Apple has intentionally kept from their machines just to make new machines a more compelling upgrade.

My 2012 (NINE YEARS OLD) Mac Pro runs macOS Big Slur w/o issues. Just had to upgrade the graphics card. I'm not expecting Apple to support 9+ year old computers, but when the hardware is perfectly capable, there's no reason to drop support.
 
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So planned obsolescence... There's no reason why a 2017 or 2019 MBP can't support it. I wonder how many other features Apple has intentionally kept from their machines just to make new machines a more compelling upgrade.

My 2012 (NINE YEARS OLD) Mac Pro runs macOS Big Slur w/o issues. Just had to upgrade the graphics card. I'm not expecting Apple to support 9+ year old computers, but when the hardware is perfectly capable, there's no reason to drop support.

I’d hate to see what you say about Windows 11. Sometimes you just need to cut support for old systems.
 
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So planned obsolescence... There's no reason why a 2017 or 2019 MBP can't support it. I wonder how many other features Apple has intentionally kept from their machines just to make new machines a more compelling upgrade.

My 2012 (NINE YEARS OLD) Mac Pro runs macOS Big Slur w/o issues. Just had to upgrade the graphics card. I'm not expecting Apple to support 9+ year old computers, but when the hardware is perfectly capable, there's no reason to drop support.
You had to upgrade the graphic card, probably because there was no driver for it. But i bet even your old graphic card would be technically capable of running it without issues.
 
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You had to upgrade the graphic card, probably because there was no driver for it. But i bet even your old graphic card would be technically capable of running it without issues.
I actually had to upgrade the graphics card to support Metal. Should have clarified that I had to to that to get macOS Mojave too. Apple officially supported 2010-2012 Mac Pro with Mojave provided there was a supported graphics card installed.
 
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So planned obsolescence... There's no reason why a 2017 or 2019 MBP can't support it. I wonder how many other features Apple has intentionally kept from their machines just to make new machines a more compelling upgrade.

My 2012 (NINE YEARS OLD) Mac Pro runs macOS Big Slur w/o issues. Just had to upgrade the graphics card. I'm not expecting Apple to support 9+ year old computers, but when the hardware is perfectly capable, there's no reason to drop support.

2017 MacBook Air, and Live Text is working.
 
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The proof of Apple's planned obsolescence is supporting intel Macs with a new feature?

...makes sense.

You realize that Apple itself is in charge of MacOS betas, right? :)
Sure they are in charge, that’s why they are responsible for the planned obsolescence. They changed their mind because too many users got pissed off, but as i said it was primarily a planned obsolescence to prioritize their business benefits, which got reconsidered. Simply as that, and proves how they generally tic. As soon they can, they drive their users against the wall, this feature wasn’t simply important enough to continue to piss off their users. Breaking iCloud Notes Sync builds a much stronger longer lever.
 
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I actually had to upgrade the graphics card to support Metal. Should have clarified that I had to to that to get macOS Mojave too. Apple officially supported 2010-2012 Mac Pro with Mojave provided there was a supported graphics card installed.
Then you just answer your own question. Your Mac was initially not capable of Metal 2 support so no, your hardware was not ‘perfectly’ capable. Most Mac buyers are not tech savvy enough to know how to upgrade their graphics cards.
Your device’s entire chipset would likely be dropped as well. Just like the GMA 950/X3100 MacBook Models with Snow Leopard and Lion, your Mac Pro was on borrowed time with Mojave.
Try as you might, the lack of graphics acceleration in future OS releases will hurt. Developers don’t have the patience to keep working things down that old of a machine. Nothing personal or planned, just laziness probably.
 
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The proof of Apple's planned obsolescence is supporting intel Macs with a new feature?

...makes sense.

You realize that Apple itself is in charge of MacOS betas, right? :)
Yeah this has been bizarre to me. This feature was explicitly said to NOT be coming to intel Macs, and Apple added it anyway and people are mad about it. I don't get it.
 
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Sure they are in charge, that’s why they are responsible for the planned obsolescence. They changed their mind because too many users got pissed off, but as i said it was primarily a planned obsolescence to prioritize their business benefits, which got reconsidered. Simply as that!
I guess complain either way, it's the way of the forum poster ;)

I'd be surprised if enough customers even heard of Live Text in Monterey, and want it that badly, that their whining was so loud, that Apple scrapped their Evil Plans™ just this once, and flipped a switch they had no intention of flipping, to get the feature active in beta. I think there are a lot louder complaints than this that do not get serviced...
 
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I wonder what’s John Grubers excuse now. I remember him saying, Live Text was only possible because the M1 chip. When it was obvious Apple was just being stubborn about adding support. It would be ridiculous a feature like this would really require the M1 chip. Worse, they are still selling Intel MacBook Pros for the foreseeable future.
 
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