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macOS Monterey: Here Are All the Features Your Intel Mac Won't Support
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Engineering has promised me that some features broken in Big Sur will work again if I upgrade to Monterey.
Seriously, Apple broke their Books.app and a few other things.
Super easy to look up one of the short wrap up WWDC videos and see all of the features yourself. Every year Apple adds hundreds of features, some big and some small. No new feature are guaranteed after you buy the machine, yet they continue adding features for 5-8 years.
I don't expect a manufacturer to support a device after 5 years. However, if a device was built in, say, August 2020, I would expect the manufacturer to support it. A device that may be still under AppleCare may not be able to take full advantage of the OS upgrades during that period? That's pushing planned obsolescence even further than Apple is usually accused of. Why buy a M1 Air this year if next year Apple releases the M2 and makes their next OS only capable of running fully-featured on the M2 or Pro/Max chips?
Not saying that a manufacturer has to stop all progress and innovation when it comes to their hardware (or recall their 'old' hardware) but if they make a big thing of each OS release - and actively remind folks of the improvements to security that come with that (not just the 'Squirrel!' moments) - then they should as least try to look as if they don't consider last year's model of what they build to be obsolete sh*t.
I’m guessing that you’ve never been through this before. As one who’s been through the Apple II, most versions of the PPC and a few variations of Intel over the last 40 years, your silly notion that Apple wouldn’t push new hardware to apps not possible with the old is naive at best.
Using bread and butter apps as guide i.e. those I make a living with, here’s my obsolescence timeline.
Apple II 1981 – ‘86
Mac Plus: 1986 – ‘91
Performa 6200: ‘91–97
Beige G3: ‘97 – 2002
G5: ‘02-‘10
2010 iMac: ‘10–‘18
iMac Pro: ‘18 – don’t know, current one going strong, does everything I need.
Hmmmm… my average seems to be 5 years. When my Mac Plus was unable to run MacIntax in 1991, I threw a fit, got over it and bought the Performa so I could get my work done.That was 30 years ago.
Yes, the new hardware always does things the old stuff can’t. I don’t upgrade till I want or need that functionality. My only regret is that I didn’t replace that heat pump they called the G5 a few years earlier.
40 years… the more things change, the more they stay the same.
You could _maybe_ understand it for some Intel models for e.g. the object capture feature... but as long as they're using their own APIs (e.g. CoreML) they should be able to differentiate without much work.
E.g. my 2020 8 core Intel iMac with the top GPU is vastly more powerful than anything M1-based, unlike my 2018 13" MBP. Sure, top of the range at the time, but the GPU/ML capabilities of that one I could understand why was passed by.
Limiting something so stupid as displaying as displaying a globe is just insulting, though - it's still on sale, even, as they haven't released anything but the lowest end stationary machines with Apple Silicon.
As someone who is forced to spend most of his working hours in Windows, you'd be back the next day. There's a lot more going on there that Airdrop does not cover for.
See above. I'm forced to work in Windows because Microsoft has crippled the Mac version of Excel and Outlook. I need to run Windows on my Mac or else I'm gone and on a PC.
To be fare I believe a lot of the processing required occurs on their server side and is pushed to you. Even then, the fans on whatever computer I was using at the time spun up like the thing was ready for lift off.
Didn't have a chance to read all 11 pages of this thread, but I am of the opinion that the move away from Intel compatibility is one final, last-ditch effort to crush hackintosh builders and advocates. Not that this will stop them, it just provides Apple with a temporary false sense of comfort.
Apple isn't investing billions of dollars into chip development to fight off hackintoshes lol. Apple doesn't care about hackintoshes as long as it's not being sold by a company. There are much easier ways to try and stop hackintoshes than ditching Intel.
the only worth value macos to be macintosh just apps development . but these day we got remote compiling so lesser value. Final cut pro lover maybe ? but da vinci and and premiere kinda good. .
apple tv ,music no need mac.Old filemaker maybe..icloud on windows still can access.
imessage maybe not but facetime can invite android ( never test it)
Just give Tim "Amelio-Sculley" Cook time, there will be a full Microsoft product line and naming scheme.
I agree tenfold. I thought I was just being irrational and jealous given the benchmarks vs price points not even being comparable but always felt better having the screen-estate with intel. I spent a lot more than I wanted to on a nearly maxed out 2019 i9 16" MBP off ebay before my coding bootcamp started (thought it'd be worth the extra financial strain granted how long my last MBP survived) but was dumbfounded by the slow-downs / unwarranted noise it made just checking my emails. Even after just accepting and appreciating what I have, Apple literally introduces the next lineup to be everything wrong with it and what it should've been. -- sorry rant over but I just hate the concept of my fairly new MacBook Pro being a borderline-better PC than MacOS device (even then..at least PC's accommodate the nature of intel cpu's and don't use all this metal that inevitably comes to feel like someone ironing your b@11s every time you wanna sit on the couch or just not at a desk)
Harsh truth: They put out a new line of great products but given the amount of money they charged for their predecessors + those predecessors being a byproduct of apple seeking autonomy from intel (which M1's showed was well deserved), almost raises a question of ethics IMO even as a business. Anyone who bought into those machines did so with some customer loyalty to an extent (or just had the cash layin around I guess) yet now we see them put out much more viable products that honestly are practically what we expected the first time around...I remember a time when you could have the latest iPhone then after apple released a new one you'd think "oh that's cool, lemme hang tight til next year though" because what you had was more than sufficient. Not, instead be introduced to a product beyond comparison that not only depreciates the hell outta your most recent financial investment in them but also literally craps on it from all angles of functionality and practicality. As a student, I just feel scammed because it was a dent in the wallet for something that under-delivered and even though I have Apple Care+ etc, the issue at hand is a terribly designed product in itself. I'm actually more shocked above all that you can be charged for something so expensive that gets you to research and learn so much about it's faults. Normally, you'd research the cool things you didn't know it could do lol.
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Apple probably has Sony second guessing ideas for the PS6...Which intel's terrible commercial prob did not help lol
Well the "corrector" posted "LOL" and a crying-laughing emoji over a simple error (as if the writer were an idiot) so he simply responded with equal melodrama ?
That’s just silly.
Apple supports the MacOS for 3 years per California laws and international agreements. They support hardware three years if you purchase AppleCare.
There is no promise, express or implied that you will be able to incorporate the features of future OS. It doesn’t exist in any industry. It would be like me buying a Prius in 20xx with a hybrid motor and Toyota coming out with all electric the next year and me driving into the dealer demanding a new car for free.
That’s what you’re demanding. Aparently, you are very disappointed. Time to grow up and get over it.
Whew, I'm so glad it took until 2021 for an Apple Silicon mac to make 3D globes!
Looks a bit better than the ole' family Amiga 500!
Looks a bit better than the ole' family Amiga 500!
I see your point and don't disagree with you but I feel like I should clarify that I wasn't referring to features of future OS but instead the flawed designs / issues the intel macs have that apple argues is "normal" (fan noise, hot temps, flickering for external displays, etc..). But given the topic of the article we're commenting on, I can def see why my comment was misleading. My apologies.
It is as of MacOS 12.1
SharePlay is now available on Macs as part of the latest macOS Monterey update
No idea. Since the title of this thread is
macOS Monterey: Here Are All the Features Your Intel Mac Won't Support
this might not be the best place to find an answer.My advice: Since it works in Sonoma, declare Victory and find other uses for your time. Don't worry about Monterey. I can no longer check since I sold my 18 Core iMac Pro last week.