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macOS Sequoia 15.3 and iOS 18.3 Enable Apple Intelligence Automatically

stevemiller said:
i guess y'all can contort yourself for whatever logic you want. sounds to me like you'd make excuses if they also made it so you couldn't even turn it off at all since its a 'new phase' and all.

show me a a screen that says 'do you want to turn this on?' with a yes/no option. not doing that is wrong, especially with generative AI. i'll die on that hill.
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To get started with Apple Intelligence after you update your device, go to Settings, select Apple Intelligence & Siri, then select Get Apple Intelligence.

How to get Apple Intelligence - Apple Support

Apple Intelligence is the personal intelligence system that helps you communicate, work, and express yourself. It combines generative models with your personal context to deliver intelligence that is most useful and relevant to you, while protecting your privacy.
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Apple Intelligence will initially be available with device and Siri language set to English only, and the features will have a "beta" label even on the publicly released version of iOS 18.1 that is coming out next month.

 
spazzcat said:
To get started with Apple Intelligence after you update your device, go to Settings, select Apple Intelligence & Siri, then select Get Apple Intelligence.

How to get Apple Intelligence - Apple Support

Apple Intelligence is the personal intelligence system that helps you communicate, work, and express yourself. It combines generative models with your personal context to deliver intelligence that is most useful and relevant to you, while protecting your privacy.
support.apple.com support.apple.com



Apple Intelligence will initially be available with device and Siri language set to English only, and the features will have a "beta" label even on the publicly released version of iOS 18.1 that is coming out next month.

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not sure what you're trying to show? the whole point of this thread is that after 18.3 you won't go to settings and select get apple intelligence, you will be foreced to turn it on, even if you've turned off the beta. the current behaviour is what i'm arguing should continue, not 'we know better than you and now you get it whether you want it or not'
 
stevemiller said:
not sure what you're trying to show? the whole point of this thread is that after 18.3 you won't go to settings and select get apple intelligence, you will be foreced to turn it on, even if you've turned off the beta. the current behaviour is what i'm arguing should continue, not 'we know better than you and now you get it whether you want it or not'
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The point is you had to turn it on before and now they are changing it to be on by default and you still can turn it off. You are claiming you turned it off in the beta which only be turn if you first turned it on then turned it off.
 
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spazzcat said:
The point is you had to turn it on before and now they are changing it to be on by default and you still can turn it off. You are claiming you turned it off in the beta which only be turn if you first turned it on then turned it off.
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i'm saying me having turned it off in the beta phase should be an indication i don't want it.

even if i never engaged with apple intelligence, i fundamentally disagree with the idea that they should turn it on by default. there is no reason for them not to ask permission. thats what they do with face id, apple pay, even siri itself historically. this is them pushing a fundamentally divisive feature for no reason other than they desperately WANT to make it a thing, rather than let people decide they want it. and this is on top of them claiming they're taking a measured, privacy focussed approach.

if you want ai slop everywhere, thats your prerogative, and a yes/no option on first launch after an update is more than reasonable and doesn't create an ounce of extra effort for you. but i cannot fathom why you would be in favour of not giving people that choice and instead require them to dig into settings to disable it after it already eats up 5gb of bandwidth and storage. this is helping no one but apple.
 
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stevemiller said:
i'm saying me having turned it off in the beta phase should be an indication i don't want it.
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they are saying that you had to turn it on in the beta phase in the first place since it was off by default

so if you don't want it why did you turn it on?
 
nathansz said:
they are saying that you had to turn it on in the beta phase in the first place since it was off by default

so if you don't want it why did you turn it on?
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seriously? i tried it, did not like it, turned it off.

why do you think that someone saying "tried it and its not something i want" is somehow not a reasonable position and they should have that decision overridden?

why do you think a controversial feature that has had high profile issues should be turned on by default (even if you don't personally care about those issues) when it would be just as easy for them to just ask users for permission?

what do you have against giving people the option up front? why do you think it should be more work to decline than accept?
 
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nathansz said:
what's so controversial about it?
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ok so i can confirm i can ignore you since this is such a bad faith argument.

"who cares if it doesn't work all the time? am i right? it notified some people their partners or close family members were injured or killed. lol! lmao! i find mistakes funny! these things don't bother me and i am incapable of understanding how they might affect others!"

congrats on a block.
 
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stevemiller said:
ok so i can confirm i can ignore you since this is such a bad faith argument.

"who cares if it doesn't work all the time? am i right? it notified some people their partners or close family members were injured or killed. lol! lmao! i find mistakes funny! these things don't bother me and i am incapable of understanding how they might affect others!"

congrats on a block.
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when did apple intelligence tell someone their partner or family member was killed?

I must have missed that story
 
stevemiller said:
i'm saying me having turned it off in the beta phase should be an indication i don't want it.

even if i never engaged with apple intelligence, i fundamentally disagree with the idea that they should turn it on by default. there is no reason for them not to ask permission. thats what they do with face id, apple pay, even siri itself historically. this is them pushing a fundamentally divisive feature for no reason other than they desperately WANT to make it a thing, rather than let people decide they want it. and this is on top of them claiming they're taking a measured, privacy focussed approach.

if you want ai slop everywhere, thats your prerogative, and a yes/no option on first launch after an update is more than reasonable and doesn't create an ounce of extra effort for you. but i cannot fathom why you would be in favour of not giving people that choice and instead require them to dig into settings to disable it after it already eats up 5gb of bandwidth and storage. this is helping no one but apple.
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It is their software and they never claimed it was going to be opt in or opt out. They don't even have to give you the option to opt out, but they are.
 
spazzcat said:
It is their software and they never claimed it was going to be opt in or opt out. They don't even have to give you the option to opt out, but they are.
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thats true. they totally CAN do this. and i can think poorly of them for it, and reconsider using their products (not that i feel like any other company is better on this front, unfortunately)

i'm glad you celebrate reducing/obfuscating user choice.
 
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nathansz said:
when did apple intelligence tell someone their partner or family member was killed?

I must have missed that story
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https://www.reddit.com/r/ios/comments/1i7o4qz/think_it_might_be_time_to_turn_off_ai_summaries
not killed in this example, but summaries have absolutely misreported people dying who did not die.

again, if you don't care or find these mistakes 'funny' or you know not to take the summaries seriously, thats totally up to you. but i honestly just don't see how this should be the 'default' state, even if there are ways to turn it off. defaults are a powerful way to push something. just ask how much google paid to be the default search engine.

i just cannot fathom why people would be against given an up-front option.
 
stevemiller said:
https://www.reddit.com/r/ios/comments/1i7o4qz/think_it_might_be_time_to_turn_off_ai_summaries
not killed in this example, but summaries have absolutely misreported people dying who did not die.

again, if you don't care or find these mistakes 'funny' or you know not to take the summaries seriously, thats totally up to you. but i honestly just don't see how this should be the 'default' state, even if there are ways to turn it off. defaults are a powerful way to push something. just ask how much google paid to be the default search engine.

i just cannot fathom why people would be against given an up-front option.
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firstly, this is a single example from reddit, with no way to check the veracity

secondly, if the story is to believed then they did receive and email from a "posting site" saying that someone died. I would be concerned about said site mass emailing death announcements really

thirdly, this was/is still in beta, so there's that

finally, you can turn it off. if you can't figure out the settings of a device then perhaps you shouldn't be spending $1000+ on said device

I'm not against giving an option. I just don't think it's worth getting hysterical about
 
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nathansz said:
firstly, this is a single example from reddit, with no way to check the veracity

secondly, if the story is to believed then they did receive and email from a "posting site" saying that someone died. I would be concerned about said site mass emailing death announcements really

thirdly, this was/is still in beta, so there's that

finally, you can turn it off. if you can't figure out the settings of a device then perhaps you shouldn't be spending $1000+ on said device

I'm not against giving an option. I just don't think it's worth getting hysterical about
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are you saying you don't believe apple intelligence makes these types of mistakes? misreporting a death was literally one of the first heavily reported example of how it generates blatantly wrong facts. so if you're arguing if this particular case was real or not... i'm not sure what that changes.

also it was said turning the beta on then off again should be expected to be ignored because it was for the beta, and this is some 'new phase'. but the official 18.3 just dropped, and its still labelled as beta. so by that logic, they can consider any moment 'a new phase' internally and turn it back on over and over i guess. and moreover, they probably continue to label it beta because they expect it to continue to have the issues it currently does.
 
I know how to turn off AI, but it still takes up over 5GB of storage. There are lots of articles on how to reclaim this space by turning it off, but this doesn't seem to be the case.
Any ideas?
(I've skimmed through all 10 pages here but didn't see anything)
 

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BRMperc said:
I know how to turn off AI, but it still takes up over 5GB of storage. There are lots of articles on how to reclaim this space by turning it off, but this doesn't seem to be the case.
Any ideas?
(I've skimmed through all 10 pages here but didn't see anything)
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Give it some time. Turn it off and leave it off. The system will eventually clean it up within a week or so once it detects you're not using anymore.

They probably leave a little buffer time just in case you decide to turn it back on, or only wanted to turn it off temporarily, so that you don't have to redownload everything again.
 
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Give it some time. Turn it off and leave it off. The system will eventually clean it up within a week or so once it detects you're not using anymore.

They probably leave a little buffer time just in case you decide to turn it back on, or only wanted to turn it off temporarily, so that you don't have to redownload everything again.
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Gotcha. Thanks! (I'm sure it'll all redownload with the next version of iOS anyway)
 
nathansz said:
when did apple intelligence tell someone their partner or family member was killed?

I must have missed that story
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Apple Faces Criticism Over AI-Generated News Headline Summaries

Apple is facing calls to remove its AI-powered notification summaries feature after it generated false headlines about a high-profile murder case,...
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edit: Apple Intelligence seems to have summarized a BBC report to say [the named person] shot himself--even though he did not shoot himself (to my knowledge). However, the Apple Intelligence summary did not go so far as to say [the name person] died, and I see no mention of whether or not Apple Intelligence told the family.
 
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