macOS Sequoia and iPadOS 18 Drop Support for These Macs and iPads

[Dented]

The iPad support doesn't make sense to me. The iPad 7th gen has an A10 chip and will get iPadOS 18 but the iPad 6th gen with the same chip won't. Yet the iPhone 7 with A10 and even iPhone X with A11 didn't get iOS 17.

You would think they'd only support up to iPad 8th gen since that has A12 like other baseline iPadOS 18 iPads.

Hang on now. If the iPad 7th gen with A10 gets support, how can they possibly justify dropping the A10X powered IPad Pro 10.5?

I was expecting both to lose support because of all the AI stuff (the A10/A10X has no neural chip at all) but it doesn’t sound like most of the existing models will get any of that anyway. So if the A10 can support the rest of it, why not the beefier A10X?

 

[MrGimper]

Shouldn’t be! There are Intel Macs that were purchased new that are only a few years old.

I know. The Mac Pro being the most recent. I did hope they’d consider those users who spent 4K plus on a machine just a few years ago.

 

[kiranmk2]

M1 air is now the lowest supported on the air side… not a good sign for people buying them today from Walmart.

Nope - the March 2020 Intel model is the lowest supported model.

I'm kind of surprised the MBA 2018/2019 got the chop whilst the 2018 MBP & Mini survive. That means the 2019 MBA only got 5 years of support which seems harsh.

I'm also surprised Apple hasn't started demoting the M1-based products yet to start encouraging M1 Mac owners to start upgrading. Previous gen iPhone owners...well, they don't get thrown under the bus but they definitely get thrown off the bus if you look at the features that are locked off to owners of previous gen models.

 

[diggy33]

I just built a new Intel Mac a few months ago...

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I am going to get my iMac Pro out this weekend and install the beta. I am glad to see they are still supporting such a fantastic machine

 

[Love-hate 🍏 relationship]

You were able to control your phone on Windows years ago already.

I know. but I asked for the opposite

 

[iHorseHead]

I know. but I asked for the opposite

VNC Viewer does that

 

[seek3r]

M1 air is now the lowest supported on the air side… not a good sign for people buying them today from Walmart.

No, it isnt, the 2020 Intel Air like I have is

 

[nathansz]

I am going to get my iMac Pro out this weekend and install the beta. I am glad to see they are still supporting such a fantastic machine

(This is not actually an iMac Pro)

 

[iHorseHead]

M1 air is now the lowest supported on the air side… not a good sign for people buying them today from Walmart.

The Intel MacBook Air's are the lowest, with the Intel Core i3, i5, or i7 (aka, early 2020 MacBook Airs) the M1 MacBook Air is the late one.
I wouldn't be worried just yet, because the M1 gets all of the features, while the Intel one doesn't. I believe that the MacBook Air M1 will get at least 3 years of OS updates at least.

 

[Tony_YYZ]

My 2018 iPad Pro 11” survives another year!

 

[iHorseHead]

My 2018 iPad Pro 11” survives another year!

To be honest, I recently made a post and was surprised that my iPad mini 2 is still very usable. I can imagine that your iPad Pro will be even more usable than my iPad mini in 2035

 

[Tony_YYZ]

To be honest, I recently made a post and was surprised that my iPad mini 2 is still very usable. I can imagine that your iPad Pro will be even more usable than my iPad mini in 2035

Yeah, absolutely. It is definitely a bit slower than it used to be with the more recent iOS versions but it still serves my needs very well. Once it is out of software support I may even stretch it another year since the current pro models cost so much. I hope it lasts a long time.

I prefer having in-support devices so that I have software/feature parity between them so I’ll have to see if there are any big iOS/iPadOS improvements at the time this one falls out of support. I saw that my Series 5 watch is no longer going to be supported which is a bummer but expected. If the Watch 10 doesn’t offer anything compelling then I’ll ride this out for another year.

Cheers!

 

[zarmanto]

I know this is a bit of a non-sequitur, but that article title got me thinking: Why do macOS releases still get to have publicly acknowledged code names, (and correspondingly swanky themed wallpapers, marketing and such) whereas iOS/iPadOS releases get... a number. Just a number.

I mean, I don't work in marketing so perhaps I don't have a clue as to what I'm talking about, but I would expect that with the vast lion share of Apple's revenue coming out of the iDevice market these days, they'd want to have at least some vague semblance of parity in that regard.

 

[livmatus]

supporting the 7th gen iPad with A10 and not supporting iPad Pros from 2017 with A10X makes zero sense

 

[jumpcutking]

Does anyone know how to turn on iPhone Mirroring in the new MacOS?

 

[Makisupa Policeman]

I wonder how much longer the 2020 M1 Air will be supported?

I’m guessing all of Intel except maybe the 2017 iMac Pro and 2019 Mac Pro get cut off with macOS 16, and with macOS 17 we may start to see the first M1 machines get dropped 😳

 

[AppleTO]

I'm pleasantly surprised the 2019 iMac is still supported, as we still have a bunch at work. The article the other day rumoured it would be cut off. Kind of strange to see the 2018 and 2019 MBA cut off and not the mini, but those Air's did have very low power CPUs and GPUs.

 

[Apple$]

I wonder how much longer the 2020 M1 Air will be supported?

I’m guessing all of Intel except maybe the 2017 iMac Pro and 2019 Mac Pro get cut off with macOS 16, and with macOS 17 we may start to see the first M1 machines get dropped 😳

I doubt it, I think the M1 Macs will be supported for longer than the Intel Macs given the M chipset raw power is faster than most Windows laptops out there.

 

[seanmcbay]

I’m surprised any Intel Mac is supported. Very pleased.

Same. This has gotta be the last year.

 

[diggy33]

(This is not actually an iMac Pro)

Ah, nevertheless, I'm still inspired!

 

[Alex.Roams]

Hang on now. If the iPad 7th gen with A10 gets support, how can they possibly justify dropping the A10X powered IPad Pro 10.5?

I was expecting both to lose support because of all the AI stuff (the A10/A10X has no neural chip at all) but it doesn’t sound like most of the existing models will get any of that anyway. So if the A10 can support the rest of it, why not the beefier A10X?

Good point! I wonder if they look at active users of the device when making these decisions (maybe edu?). Still really bizarre.

 

[sideshowuniqueuser]

YES! Awesome. I am buying a used 2019 Mac Pro because of this.

I prefer Intel over non upgradable or fixable Apple Silicon.

So instead of upgrading/fixing your current machine, you're buying a 2nd hand upgradeable/fixable machine that you will never upgrade or fix either?

 

[magbarn]

Good point! I wonder if they look at active users of the device when making these decisions (maybe edu?). Still really bizarre.

Probably money is a factor too as likely most buyers of basic ipads are less likely to upgrade than ipad pro users.

 

[ResolutionNZ]

The iPad support doesn't make sense to me. The iPad 7th gen has an A10 chip and will get iPadOS 18 but the iPad 6th gen with the same chip won't. Yet the iPhone 7 with A10 and even iPhone X with A11 didn't get iOS 17.

You would think they'd only support up to iPad 8th gen since that has A12 like other baseline iPadOS 18 iPads.

My iPad 6 runs iOS 17 poorly, so they probably made the right decision to drop support for those other devices. The iPad 7 will run poorly on 18 also.

 

[Bustycat]

According to the web page, Mac Studio models released in only 2022 are supported.