Apple isn’t providing security guarantees nor did it ever imply. It’s like Apple performed trust checks, and validated the developer.
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macOS Sequoia Makes It Harder to Override Gatekeeper Security
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Tell this to my staff member who attempted to install Notion.app from…somebody who messaged it to her on Discord. I welcome changes like this.
The descent of macOS towards iOS-ification continues apace... When these laptops eventually become glorified iPads + keyboards, as seems likely, I'll just move back to Linux.
Yes, I'm fully aware I'm a sample size of exactly one.
Yes, I'm fully aware I'm a sample size of exactly one.
You are suggesting the MR Mac users are representative of the Mac user base - bad bad assumption
The descent of macOS towards iOS-ification continues apace... When these laptops eventually become glorified iPads + keyboards, as seems likely, I'll just move back to Linux.
Yes, I'm fully aware I'm a sample size of exactly one.
Two. 👍
The malwares nowadays ship with a "Control-click to run" text, so the tech illiterates unfortunately know.
If Apple only allows "Trusted Sofware", then I'm off the entire Apple platform. Apple already doesn't sign jailbreak apps, for example. If Apple now wants to lock down the Mac just like iOS, then I'm out.
to be fair i'm rather advanced user and until today didn't know this was a thing
since you actually might trick regular users into opening unsigned app (ie. by providing an installation instruction before downloading an app), i think its a good thing this is removed.
since you actually might trick regular users into opening unsigned app (ie. by providing an installation instruction before downloading an app), i think its a good thing this is removed.
The problem I have with this is... how is this new inconvenience any different from malware launching System Settings and shipping an image with a bright red arrow saying 'Click this'? This doesn't really offer any new level of safety. It just makes it mildly more inconvenient. People who would have fallen for 'Control-click to run' are going to approve it in System Settings just as readily.
Not only are they not allowing alternative app stores on iOS, but they are cracking down on third party apps on the Mac, something the user should have complete control over. I should be able to select the level of security I want on my third party apps and unsigned applications. This is 100% about diverting people to the App Store for revenue and in a few more iterations of MacOS, we will need to jailbreak it to regain control.
Good luck out there, I’m sure the Apple “sofware” community will miss you.
I welcome enhanced security whenever possible.
It has nothing to do with being smart. I run a Linux workstation, the amount of rogue libraries in Linux is a huge problem. They all creep in to distributions pretty easily. Just recently, a Microsoft researcher was troubleshooting delay in login on Linux, found a Critical Vulnerability. My Linux workstation doesn’t have any confidential personal info, but if I was using it for banking and others, I would be very careful.
Microsoft employee accidentally saves global Linux meltdown from CVE-2024-3094 XZ backdoor
A curious Microsoft employee has saved the world from a potential global meltdown as several Linux distros were found vulnerable to an XZ backdoor tracked under CVE-2024-3094 (CVSS score of 10.0).
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If you write free software, distribute it as source code.
In my experience with macOS 15 beta 1. You can still run those apps by set in Settings. Similar to use 3rd party kernel extensions. You will find the prompt under Privacy & Security after Finder rejects you to run those apps. Then you can run them like before.
Literally nothing ever happened overriding Gatekeeper for cracked software and keygens etc.
Since Mac is crazy expensive to me in my country so always I had 90% of software pirated.
Since Mac is crazy expensive to me in my country so always I had 90% of software pirated.
Controlling by nature touted as “security”.
For years I didn't know about it and went to System Settings -> Privacy & Security -> "Open Anyway" every time I needed to install some dodgy un-notorized software. Only recently found out there was a shortcut.
And the slow march toward making these machines as pathetic and hobbled as iOS devices continues. I forgot this was even a feature, though, since I always just disable the Gatekeeper bs entirely.
There was some Malware with the Control-Click shortcut in the installation instructions. This should help with tech illiterate users who wouldn't question that instruction for their "free" software.
I see they're taking the "Boiling Frog" approach. They deserve the wrath of the DOJ.
I find Apple's major audience with computers is the complete opposite of what it is with iPhones, so I don't get why they treat us like iPhone users. Like 99% I know who have Macs got them because they are power users and very tech literate - developers, designers and such. This is only making it more annoying for us to install all the weird silly stuff from Github that was last updated in 2011 but is needed for some niche reason.
I can't be bothered with the App Store and the more they push it to people like us in industries where nobody can wait for their app review stuff or cares for following their design or whatever guidelines, the more they piss me off. A lot of the stuff we use isn't an end consumer app - it's a tool to do a technical job. Other part of it was written by another team member to do something specific and nobody cares about notarizing it because it's for internal use. Having to go to settings and tell the computer that I want to open the app that I already told it I want to open is annoying.
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Shouldn’t create any issues, utilities I am using are all not from the App Store and work OK.