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macOS Sequoia Release Likely to Be the Earliest in Years

With integration between Calendar and Reminders, native window tiling, an improved Notes app, separate password app, proofread, and quick web summary, it might unnecessarily be my favorite version of macOS.
 
txscott said:
All of the OSes need to be released in sync because of interlocking services and features notes and HomeKit are two examples. All your devices need to be on the same version of Notes and HomeKit for all of the features to work across all of your devices. This need not be the case, but as long as the features are tied to the OS versions it is the case.

Much of the value of Apple products are their deep integration with each other and the iCloud back end.
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That’s an interesting way of looking at it. This release has more individual app upgrades than those of the past. So it makes sense..
 
tywebb13 said:
Another question is when they release 15.0, will they also release 15.2 betas to be tested alongside 15.1 betas, just like now with 15.1 betas being tested alongside 15.0 betas
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I don't think so. The reason for the macOS 15.1 (and iOS/iPadOS 18.1) betas was so that they could start getting feedback on Apple Intelligence.
 
The most prominent features are iPhone mirroring and Siri. I don't have an iPhone so that's that. I don't use any Apple services so I don't know how useful Siri, which I never use, will be. Maybe I can use it as el cheapo chat gpt.

Has Apple given up on making macos better as macos? Not make it a better companion for the iPhone, or give it hand me down features from iPad, but actual new features for macos. Otherwise all I see is them locking it down more. Tim Apple must lay awake at night thinking all the 30% cut he's not getting from the Mac
 
I only hope they fix the bug with the macbook pro turning the wireless adapter off when the lid is closed regardless of what PWM options are turned on. Time machine backups can only be done with the lib open and the screen not turning off.
 
I just dread the inevitable "This Feature requires [you to upgrade your phone for parity]." (edit: or, "This Feature requires you to be using Mac OS X.Y for functionality.").
 
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cgs1xx said:
Anyone else feels really nostalgic about how MacOS and iOS used to look like 15 years ago? I mean, dwelling in the past can be a fruitless exercise but don’t you wish there was a “skin” or something we can apply??
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I wish skins was a common feature on all OS's. I'd love to be able to download a skin I like for both MacOS and Windows. Linux is the closest we come to this with different desktop environments you can load.
 
Biro said:
I didn’t used to wait so long. But a few generations of OS (particularly iOS) have been real messes with big bugs. And you never know until you download the new OS and live with it. I can’t be alone, since Apple has been providing security updates for older OS’s. That’s not just for people with devices that can no longer use the next OS.

But an even bigger factor is I haven’t been interested in most new features Apple has come up with over the past five years. Now, an improved Messages app with RCS does seem desirable. But that’s about the only useful thing I see being offered this time around. AI? Maybe down the road. Right now, it’s a bunch of cheap parlor tricks.
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I am quite interested in the messages update, and the new feature where I can actually work with my phone through the computer. That's really all I'm interested in with this release, and it's the first time I've been somewhat excited for a release due to that as literally none of the new features in the previous years have I given even a little damn about.
 
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When would one update from Sonoma to avoid installing constant bug fixes? One month after release? Two? Four? I do like having the newest OS. But my work computer forces me to swiftly install every update, and I understand the rationale, but it's always a hassle.
 
“or even the first time a new version of macOS has been released before the new version of iOS.”

Except mountain lion in 2012 from its July release?
 
dominiongamma said:
I feel like ever since snow leopard the macOS has been going downhill
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You think so? I think Sierra + High Sierra was a good moment as well. This model of having a groundbreaking release and then support release was a good model, that didn't last unfortunately.
 
Naraxus said:
I don't care if it's released early. I want it released when it's as close to perfect as software can get. Every MacOS release (to say nothing of iOS & others) under Federhigi has been plagued with bugs, glitches, half-baked gimmicks, over-promised features, under-delivered features lazily appearing at "a later date" and so on.

Apple needs to jettison this yearly update nonsense and go back to releasing things when ready. If it takes two years then so be it.

Sadly I don't see that ever happening under the current regime.
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Unfortunately, this is not just Apple. I kinda think Apple is doing this because it's what the industry does now and they can't appear to be falling behind. Android is usually a huge sloppy mess but if you don't appear to be releasing on a timely schedule, you lose.
 
Lounge vibes 05 said:
Mac OS X Chita: March 24, 2001
Mac OS X Puma: September 25, 2001
Mac OS X Jaguar: August 23, 2002
Mac OS X Panther: October 24, 2003
Mac OS X Tiger : April 28, 2005
Mac OS X Leopard: October 26, 2007
Mac OS X Snow Leopard: August 28, 2009
Mac OS X Lion: July 20, 2011
Mac OS X Mountain Lion: July 25, 2012

I’ve always found it interesting that people absolutely rant on and on about how “ if we were on 18 to 24 month upgrade cycle, things would be so much less buggy, like Snow Leopard was”.

Leopard, the version in which Snow Leopard had to bug-fix, literally had the longest development period of every other version, and was publicly delayed twice.
And going back in the archives, Tiger, also known as the first release that wasn’t annual after the first four versions had been released within 30 months, had quite a bumpy launch according to forum posts from the time.
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I keep telling these people multiple times but they're too deep into the Steve Jobs Kool-Aid. Hell, even Snow Leopard had a few bad bugs in the beginning. Nobody remembers the Guest User bug:

dominiongamma said:
I feel like ever since snow leopard the macOS has been going downhill
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Exhibit A
 
tywebb13 said:
It is unlikely they will start at 15.1. Maybe 15.0 first, then a few more 15.1 betas, then 15.1 release shortly after that. They will have to ram up their ai capacity to handle 15.1 release
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I think they will release 15.0 now because they can focus on AI when be releasing new macs and 15.1 and make it main point of show.
 
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