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macOS Sierra and Later Not Listed in Mac App Store Purchased Tab, Updates Not Tied to Apple ID

This is so depressing. Apple, why do you fight your users like this? Being able to install older OS's is essential for many reasons, not least running old machines or older applications. First signing on iOS and now this move?!

E.g. I have a mission critical business app on iOS which is 32 bit. Yes it would be nice if it were updated to 64 bit but it's not going to happen in this case, yet it's the backbone of my
business. So I'm stuck at iOS 10. And if I have to restore my phone from a backup I'm screwed :-/.

Equally our desktop machines run a vastly complicated set of audio and video plugins. Just one of them not being compatible with high sierra means I can't load up older work.

For professional work we need an option to maintain a system with an older OS. Please rethink your philosophy here.
 
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Bleh.

Some days I just want to wake up to find we’re still on OS X Leopard, with its beautiful shiny physical box sitting on the shelf. (And yes I know Snow Leopard had a boxed version too but the Leopard one felt like the last one they really cared about!).

Actually I don’t know why they don’t sell USB installers for every version of Mac OS X / Mac OS, like they did for Lion - demand might not be high, but they’d be a nice little earner and help some people out when they need it.
 
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I see OS X 10.7, 10.8, 10.9 and 10.11 ... 10.10 was hidden (hideous release anyway) but 10.12 is gone, I only see GM Beta:/

Checking from OS X 10.9 as I type this
 
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Umm you guys might want to read the whole support article :

To reinstall Safari, Mail, the App Store, or other apps that are included with the Mac operating system, reinstall macOS. macOS Sierra or later doesn't appear in the Purchased tab. Instead, use the Search field in the upper-right corner to find and open the App Store page for that macOS.
 
Peace said:
Umm you guys might want to read the whole support article :

To reinstall Safari, Mail, the App Store, or other apps that are included with the Mac operating system, reinstall macOS. macOS Sierra or later doesn't appear in the Purchased tab. Instead, use the Search field in the upper-right corner to find and open the App Store page for that macOS.
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That doesn’t work for Sierra.

If you search for “Sierra”, all you get is “High Sierra“.

I also tried re-installing Sierra by booting in Recovery mode, but that didn’t work. I got an error message saying that the download wasn’t available and try again later. I tried multiple times yesterday and today, same result.
 
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There is no problem here. If your Mac originally came with macOS Sierra, you should still be able to reinstall macOS Sierra by holding down Shift-Option-Command-R when you turn on your Mac. This key combination installs the version of macOS that came with your Mac as explained in this support document.
 
All part of The Great Diaper Fire of 2017.
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bbnck said:
There is no problem here. If your Mac originally came with macOS Sierra, you should still be able to reinstall macOS Sierra by holding down Shift-Option-Command-R when you turn on your Mac. This key combination installs the version of macOS that came with your Mac as explained in this support document.
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And what result did you get when you held down Shift-Option-Command-R when you turned on your Mac?
 
JamesPDX said:
And what result did you get when you held down Shift-Option-Command-R when you turned on your Mac?
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I get the option to re-install Sierra (which is not the original OS) when I power up while holding the Command and R keys. I know this very well now because my Mac mini keeps locking up and will not boot up again every time I attempt to install High Sierra. :mad:
 
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These complaints are ridiculous. The only type of person who would want to install an older operating system is a power user. And if you're a power user, you'll have the knowledge to be able to save installers, or be able to find any previous version of macOS on the internet and verify its integrity. If you don't know how to do either of those things, you aren't the type of person who would need to install an older OS.
 
"Previous Mac software updates were linked to an Apple ID account and updating required an Apple ID and password, something that could be a hassle when a Mac changed ownership".

Apple should REMOVE such OBNOXIOUS requirement to update applications!
 
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i personally started downloading every version since macOS Sierra 10.12.5 and i'm storing them on my external hard drive so IF one day for whatever reason i want to downgrade i'll have the versions i'll need on my hard drive,
 
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jasonsmith_88 said:
These complaints are ridiculous. The only type of person who would want to install an older operating system is a power user. And if you're a power user, you'll have the knowledge to be able to save installers, or be able to find any previous version of macOS on the internet and verify its integrity. If you don't know how to do either of those things, you aren't the type of person who would need to install an older OS.
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No they are not ridiculous. Picture this: You are on tour with u2 running their IT and have an hd crash. You need to reinstall sierra in a hurry (not high sierra as it's incompatible with some plugins being used) on a brand new hd and reinstall all the plugins etc. The machine originally shipped with el cap. You forgot to bring the installer or a complete clone hd with you (the latter in my experience don't work well incidentally). So you need to redownload sierra. How do you do it? Search the torrents?!
 
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I've saved every installer onto its own flashdrive from Lion onwards before upgrading and keep another backup on an external drive. A consequence of having a number of Macs to maintain. Who wants to keep downloading 5GB+?

Not sure what the moaning in this thread is about. People are getting lazier and expect every update to be available in perpetuity on demand. Apple has removed updates and OS upgrades before. This is nothing new.
 
weckart said:
I've saved every installer onto its own flashdrive from Lion onwards before upgrading and keep another backup on an external drive. A consequence of having a number of Macs to maintain. Who wants to keep downloading 5GB+?

Not sure what the moaning in this thread is about. People are getting lazier and expect every update to be available in perpetuity on demand. Apple has removed updates and OS upgrades before. This is nothing new.
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Sure it's possible. But why make it harder than it was last week?
 
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jasonsmith_88 said:
These complaints are ridiculous. The only type of person who would want to install an older operating system is a power user. And if you're a power user, you'll have the knowledge to be able to save installers, or be able to find any previous version of macOS on the internet and verify its integrity. If you don't know how to do either of those things, you aren't the type of person who would need to install an older OS.
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Greetings Jason,

I am here as an advocate for my fellow Mac users, writing from the point of continuous experience with Apple since 1992.

I suppose that I am what you'd consider a Power User (I prefer the term Knowledgeable User) and I do have installers for many systems. I have the good operating Apple Macintosh system installers: 7, 8, OS 9, Panther, Tiger, Leopard -ehh..., Snow Leopard, Mavericks, Yosemite, and Sierra. Hopefully, High Sierra will prove to be as good or better than Sierra. I am not willing to be a beta-tester, and as of this moment I am not quite ready to risk terabytes of local data and the SSDs they're on. Also, there is the matter with the removal of local App sync and backup with the new iTunes: The newest version where Apple cut the flab out of the wrong end of the application.
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No they are not ridiculous. Picture this: You are on tour with u2 running their IT and have an hd crash. You need to reinstall sierra in a hurry (not high sierra as it's incompatible with some plugins being used) on a brand new hd and reinstall all the plugins etc. The machine originally shipped with el cap. You forgot to bring the installer or a complete clone hd with you (the latter in my experience don't work well incidentally). So you need to redownload sierra. How do you do it? Search the torrents?!
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Yikes. In your case, I'd use SSDs and keep a hot spare via Carbon Copy Cloner. What also concerns me is the day that Apple stops "signing" a particular OS or App, no matter its utility.
 
That was the first thing I did before installing HS, I made sure I had all my installers cookies all the way back to Lion as a safety net.
The only way apple could nix that for users is if they pull the combo updater.
 
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Michaelgtrusa said:
This makes you wonder, what's next.
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Pulling all Combo updates for previous OS X and MacOS and any manual download.
They already started this years ago when you click a link to an old article and results in a 404.
The ultimate throwing us under the bus will happen when they roll out new Mini and MacBooks and iMacs that are all A12X and no more Intel. That environment will have stricter controls and probably mandatory updates like the iOS system.
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Cook, we have High Sierra vulnerability, what shall we do? Remove comments in App Store :-D
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I noticed that a while ago that you can't comment on any of apples software.
 
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My 2010 MBA on Sierra (10.12.6) still shows El Capitan on the “Purchased” tab. Just checked right now.
 
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