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macOS Tahoe 26.1 Beta 4 - Bug fixes, changes, and more

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fisherking said:
my guess (and it's just a guess); this is coming soon, and is not yet functional (altho why the option would be there before the actual functionality is confusing)...
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nah, it's definitely functional already, just sort of subtle (but nevertheless very welcome)
 
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LutzRFrank said:
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Liquid Selection in beta 4
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Huh. That's actually an incredible admission that they can't get liquid glass working correctly. Hopefully they reverse course on launchpad.

fisherking said:
some users don't like Liquid Glass.
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The world's most valuable company that currently supports around 100 million active MacOS machines does not add the option to remove their signature UI appearance because some users don't like it. If they heard something and responded to that, please provide proof.
 
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tkermit said:
nah, it's definitely functional already, just sort of subtle (but nevertheless very welcome)
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Yeah I agree.

I notice that on iOS and iPadOS, the tinted Liquid Glass option affects the notifications significantly. Notifications on macOS were already more opaque than their iOS/iPadOS counterparts, so the tinted option doesn't appear to do as much for the Mac.

I think they could go further with it, maybe have it tint the dock and the Desktop switcher at the top of Mission Control (they can look extremely garish depending on what wallpaper you have underneath).
 
Sniper08 said:
The world's most valuable company that currently supports around 100 million active MacOS machines does not add the option to remove their signature UI appearance because some users don't like it. System preferences going away is still hated but they stuck with it.
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and here, you're also speaking for some users (unless, of course, you have proof about 'system preferences').

why do ppl post absolutes when they're just voicing their opinions? 🤔
 
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Narrow columns in Messages has been fixed. Persistent dot in the dock after apps (Teams specifically) are closed has also been fixed. So they fixed what they broke. Guess I'm grateful lol.
 
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Terminal app in the background went full glass.

I took a picture to file a feedback, but then decided nah, they have enough to do :p
 

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it's strange that the lag come and go randomly. Sometimes I have tens of windows opened and Mission Control runs pretty smooth. Other times, even mouse movement lags :confused:

M1 Pro 32GB RAM MBP 26.1B4
 
installed Tahoe and now Mail will not show numbers within the email itself, same for URL's it just shows me little boxes with nothing in them, how do I revert to viewing normal emails instead of these boxes. screen shot of little boxes where numbers should be.
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Eastend said:
how do I revert to viewing normal emails instead of these boxes.
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Probably a font caching problem. Try rebooting; otherwise you'll have to clear the caches. There's a Terminal command (followed by a reboot); or boot to Safe mode and then restart normally.
 
adamlbiscuit said:
Still haven't seen a fix for this yet: If you’re using the ‘clear’ icon or widget style, it can sometimes be difficult to read the names of the accessories you’ve activated.

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Some "third-party" widgets (like iStatistica) do not work at all with 'tinted' or 'clear' style. Probably these apps need to be updated by developers...
 
nmt1900 said:
Some "third-party" widgets (like iStatistica) do not work at all with 'tinted' or 'clear' style. Probably these apps need to be updated by developers...
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Yeah I have a bit more lenience with third party widgets, but this is Apple’s own Home app widget (sorry I realise now I didn’t specify what widget it was!)
 
benwiggy said:
Probably a font caching problem. Try rebooting; otherwise you'll have to clear the caches. There's a Terminal command (followed by a reboot); or boot to Safe mode and then restart normally.
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Thanks it does appear to be a Font problem as you said, the Tahoe update did a couple of other things with my preferences that I did not like, fixed those. I tried restarting it did not work, now I'll try your suggestion.
 
Since going from 26.0.1 to 26.1 b4, Dbeaver cannot select lines anymore, or commands like CMD A. I've beem searching online and some folks have the same issue. Unfortunately my last backup is from 2 weeks ago. No I'm gonna try to find a Dbeaver alternative, until it works out. Other Database Tools, like DataGrip, or even VsCode works normally...
 
What is going on with Mail and Messages? They do not respond when launched about 80% of the time, I restart and no change. I hope the Public release comes out soon because it's annoying to only receive emails and messages consistantly on my phone and iPad.
 
JoeSilver said:
What I'd really like, it's a way of creating Appearance profiles. For example, when the system switches to Dark mode, I would like a setting which makes me choose to automatically switch the icons style to Dark as well, or to Tinted.

This is possible on the iPhone, although in that case I can achieve that with the Focus setting: it doesn't just filter Notifications, but allows to link together Light/Dark mode, Icons style, Wallpaper.

I like when my phone switches to my Sleep mode, the icons are tinted (i.e. monochrome), the wallpaper changes to the Moon, the system is of course in Dark mode and the notifications are limited. Mac Os can also be turned to a Focus mode in sync with the iPhone, but the Icons theme must be changed manually, for example.

And there's still the issue that some wallpapers have Light and Dark versions, but you can't decide of having a wallpaper for Light mode and another for Dark.
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Yes! I really don't get why they havent implemented this already... When I am at my Mac, of course I have my iPhone with me. So when I switch that to a certain focus mode, I want my Mac to switch to that Focus mode as well. It does that now... but we can't set visual filters per Focus mode on a Mac like we can on iOS..

I thought they were all about unifying the OS experiences?
 
LFO8 said:
Yes! I really don't get why they havent implemented this already... When I am at my Mac, of course I have my iPhone with me. So when I switch that to a certain focus mode, I want my Mac to switch to that Focus mode as well. It does that now... but we can't set visual filters per Focus mode on a Mac like we can on iOS..

I thought they were all about unifying the OS experiences?
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Clearly Apple devotes more resources to the iPhone and iOS than MacOS. They might keep all the OSes synchronized in their version numbers, but the amount of changes and updates to MacOS shows a substantial lower activity on this side.
Obviously there are many more iPhone users than Mac users. I'd like to know how many Mac users are also iPhone users.
 
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