does anybody know a timeline or when open core will release version that supports taheo to unsupported Macs?
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macOS Tahoe 26 on Unsupported Macs Discussion
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Sh3ldon
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Perhaps a premature question: once the official 3.0 version of OCLP is released, will we still have to accept that Tahoe performance will be inferior to what we currently have with Sequoia 2.4.1? Even when OCLP is optimized for Tahoe, I mean.
K two
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In recognition of Tim Apple’s hefty contribution to the “authoritarian ballroom” and the decision to scrap many thousands perfectly useful and reliable Apple computers I submit to our talented, resourceful and dedicated developers that OCLPv3.x.x be renamed to the more concise “Obsolete Computer Legacy Patcher” >end rant< 
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amaze1499
macrumors 68000
The performance decreased with each and every update. Not through OCLP, but with macOS becoming more and more rescource hungry itself. My MacBook Pro 2012 is currently running Sequoia, but there are way too many background processes active. However, the amount of system resources being used do max out what this machine can actually provide. Surely newer intel hardware will cope with the tasks way better. The amount of rendering tasks in Tahoe is significant.
However, Sequoia and Tahoe are clearly designed for the latest M class chips/hardware. No update of OCLP will be able to increase the performance significantly. (unless they introduce a feature where I can turn off every what I consider to be an unnecessary background process)
Nevertheless, if you only use older hardware for checking emails or browsing from time to time and you want to have the latest security updates, it’s obviously a perfect alternative. In this case it's not a daily driver anymore.
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vince22
macrumors 6502a
well said, its the end of the road for my 2015, 2012 Macbook Pro currently running Sequoia, Thanks to all OCLP team for their greatness, kindness, very much appreciated, already move on early this early with my 2024 mini ( 2TB 3rd party SSD) as daily driver at home, plan to upgrade this year iPhone 18 PM as for my travel needs.
deeveedee
macrumors 68000
So hackintoshes are off-topic in this thread, but politics are not off-topic. Did I understand correctly?
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Politics are about as disheartening as can be please steer clear here.
rehkram
macrumors 65816
Yes, you're right! He's obtuse. Because he looks at things from a very broad angle. Hackintosh is basically "do it yourself" and is constantly looking for solutions, perhaps unheard of before. Here, we only expect a group of people to come up with solutions to make old Macs use new operating systems. Turnkey solutions! I remind you that if there had been no hackintosh, there would have been no Dosdude or OCLP. Before you throw stones, let me tell you about someone who, where I am now, I have 9 different Macs and 13 hackintosh machines. A little acceptance doesn't hurt!
K two
macrumors 68020
I am surprised you missed the point of the post. 🤭
rehkram
macrumors 65816
OK... and there was I thinking the poster just wanted to remake an already settled point about discussing hackintosh on this thread.
The upshot of at least two waves of discussion about this was, and still is so far as I know, so long as people make clear what they are referring to, Mac- or hack-, there is no problem.
So deeveedee was essentially tilting at windmills, aka "trolling" 🙂
Discussing hackintoshes has never been "off topic in this thread". Keep trolling though, and maybe it will become so. I dunno, I'm not a moderator. If I was, I'd just roll my eyes and let us get on with it.
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amaze1499
macrumors 68000
Stop judging each other, support each other as good as you can. if you’re not interested in a post skip over it. Stop the nonsense. Start with meaningful support.
Sh3ldon
macrumors regular
Exactly: I'm not a professional user but a home user and for me it's enough to surf the web while I have some songs streaming in the background. However, I like having security updates and I would also be willing to switch to Tahoe, once OCLP is ready, as long as I don't have to wait two or three seconds between one web page and another or that a font appears every time I type on the keyboard.
LuckyOldMan
macrumors regular
Are you sure about that?
I perceived it differently, and it's still logical and understandable if you read the thread title carefully:
macOS Tahoe 26 on Unsupported Macs Discussion
This is about unsupported Intel Macs, and specifically only in conjunction with Tahoe—not Sequoia, Sonoma, or anything else.
It's definitely not about Hackintoshes.
Just because it was handled more casually in the past doesn't mean it's right.
Anyone who's ever worked with Hackintosh knows how many differences there are in the hardware that affect the OpenCore configuration. That only obscures the actual topic of the thread.
Like I said before: then you can just forget about the forum subdivisions and mix everything together.
So, I'm passing the buck back to you. Keep trolling, maybe something will change.
I have no idea, I'm not a moderator. If I were, I'd roll my eyes and finally set up a subforum specifically for Hackintosh (because I'd also like to use it as a Hackintosh user). 😉
Lucky736
macrumors 65816
Remember the iPod Pequeno? Me either. Was obsolete before it came out of his pocket! 🤣In recognition of Tim Apple’s hefty contribution to the “authoritarian ballroom” and the decision to scrap many thousands perfectly useful and reliable Apple computers I submit to our talented, resourceful and dedicated developers that OCLPv3.x.x be renamed to the more concise “Obsolete Computer Legacy Patcher” >end rant<
K two
macrumors 68020
amaze1499
macrumors 68000
Having said that, this MBP2012 is a great usb hub for external devices and hard drives. No extra dock needed. Direct LAN connection did the trick.
richmond62
macrumors 6502
"but we must do better as consumers of apple to understand & accept using old technologies is a risk and danger to the broader ecosystem of products and services from apple."
Why should I give a flying fudge about Apple's ecosystem: all I want to do is buy a Macintosh computer that won't be obsolete before I am.
Why should I give a flying fudge about Apple's ecosystem: all I want to do is buy a Macintosh computer that won't be obsolete before I am.
richmond62
macrumors 6502
Why pay more for a computer that has fewer features?
Every time some one lobs a CD or a DVD at me I have to "go back to the future" to retrieve data from it (let's not even talk about Iomega Zip and Jazz disks): soon we'll have Macs that don't have USB 1,2,3, or 4 connectors, only USB-C: and when I wanted to hookup a firewire device next to a SCSI thing the other day . . .
Every time some one lobs a CD or a DVD at me I have to "go back to the future" to retrieve data from it (let's not even talk about Iomega Zip and Jazz disks): soon we'll have Macs that don't have USB 1,2,3, or 4 connectors, only USB-C: and when I wanted to hookup a firewire device next to a SCSI thing the other day . . .
K two
macrumors 68020
See this https://www.findthisbest.com/best-firewire-adapters also OCLP can enable Firewire on an old Mac.
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deeveedee
macrumors 68000
Tahoe 26.3 RC (25D122) fixes the cursor artifacts that some were experiencing and maintains the excellent Polaris Metal performance restored in Beta 3. This appears to be the best Tahoe update for Intel Macs so far.
Sh3ldon
macrumors regular
Your advice on what it means to apply oclp has left me wondering whether to stick with Monterey on my late 2015 iMac or try installing Tahoe with Oclp when it's ready to have the latest updates available for an Intel Mac....
rehkram
macrumors 65816
IIWY I'd wait until the next version of OCLP is released rated for Tahoe, assuming there will be one. Read the release notes that accompany it in case there is something in there that affects your iMac model.
Then check out the comments on this thread for a while to get a feel for how it's going as people install the new OCLP and Tahoe.
At that point you'll be in a better position to make a decision, so patience is a virtue.
Frantisekj
macrumors 65816
It is the same for my 2012 MPB. With i7, 16GB/500GB SSD it works very fine for me on Sequoia. Only downside are fans and that was not much better with original OSes 😀
I do all I need even videos in iMovie. You can not expect work with 4K of course.
But M1 machines become more and more afordable so I may soon do the jump and had to accept faster cycle then with Intel machines if one want to become up to date, same as with iPhones.
But with Linux old machines can do a lot of work for long time yet.
It was great party. Thank all guys for their effort 🙂