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macOS Ventura 13.1 Beta 3

Release Date
― November 15, 2022
Build Number ― 22C5050e
Delta Update Size ― 1.59 GB (From 13.1 Beta 2)
Apple Silicon System Firmware Version ― 8419.60.44
T2 BridgeOS System Firmware Version ― (Pending) (If you have an Intel Mac, please check System Information > Boot Rom Mode)

New Features & Changes
  • Weather app gets a redesigned sidebar
  • In icon view for Pages, Keynote, Numbers, TextEdit, there is a new document button.
New Issues
  • Safari Tab Bars have a chance of not showing content
Remaining Issues
  • Alarms may not play when display is asleep for a long period of time (FB10086690)
    • Workaround: Make your display not fall asleep in Settings > Lock Screen > Turn display off on ____ when inactive. You can turn your brightness off.
  • QuickTime Player does not record the first couple of seconds when you use a Microphone (FB10086556)
  • British keyboard icon in menu bar is wrong - shows as [A]
  • Applescripts to check calendar event alerts don't work
  • Applescripts accessing Contacts fail with a (false) permissions error
  • Calendar events created with a location have a "time to leave" alert set even if that option is disabled in preferences
  • (⚠️MAJOR ISSUE) Alias's on the desktop open terminal (FB11797211)
Resolved Issues
  • Freeform may not add objects to the board
  • Sharing Freeforms may be unresponsive
Pending Issue Status
  • Unable to play the next song, previous song, or pause using AirPods or keyboard.
    • Music will also not show in Control Center
    • Workaround: Reboot your Mac
Additional Links

18/53 Apps Updated​

App NameOld Build NumberNew Build NumberStatus
Finder13.113.1Unchanged
Safari16.2 (18614.3.4.11.2)16.2 (18614.3.6.11.2)Changed
Messages14.0 (6000)14.0 (6000)Unchanged
Mail16.0 (3731.300.81)16.0 (3731.300.96)Changed
Maps3.0 (2751.22.9.25.3)3.0 (2751.22.9.25.4)Changed
Photos8.0 (520.0.150)8.0 (520.0.190)Changed
FaceTime5.0 (3080)5.0 (3080)Unchanged
Calendar11.0 (2932.3.3)11.0 (2932.3.3)Unchanged
Contacts25382538Unchanged
Reminders7.0 (2744)7.0 (2745)Changed
Notes4.10 (2181)4.10 (2183)Changed
TV1.3.2.251.3.2.28Changed
Music1.3.2.251.3.2.28Changed
Podcasts1.1.0 (1720.10)1.1.0 (4022.300.5)Changed
News8.2 (3248)8.2 (3252)Changed
App Store3.0 (1007.2.7)3.0 (1007.2.13)Changed
System Settings15.0 (15.0)15.0 (15.0)Unchanged
Clock1.0 (62)1.0 (62)Unchanged
Weather3.2 (322.0.1)3.2 (325)Changed
Freeform1.0 (111)1.0 (113)Changed
Calculator10.16 (223)10.16 (223)Unchanged
Voice Memos2.3 (2.3)2.3 (2.3)Unchanged
Feedback Assistant5.1 (517)5.1 (518)Changed
Home7.0 (696.3.4.0.1)7.0 (696.3.7)Changed
Preview11.0 (1043)11.0 (1043)Unchanged
Books5.1 (5730)5.1 (5735)Changed
Photo Booth13.0 (1153)13.0 (1153)Unchanged
System Information11.0 (915)11.0 (915)Unchanged
Stickies10.2 (10.4)10.2 (10.4)Unchanged
Shortcuts6.0 (1305.1.2)6.0 (1306)Changed
Dictionary2.3.0 (294)2.3.0 (294)Unchanged
Find My4.0 (310.2.7)4.0 (310.2.9)Changed
TextEdit1.18 (393)1.18 (393)Unchanged
QuickTime Player10.5 (1150.4.1)10.5 (1150.4.1)Unchanged
Grapher2.7 (1)2.7 (1)Unchanged
Font Book11.0 (461.2.0.6)11.0 (461.2.0.6)Unchanged
Chess3.18 (Build Chess-466.4.1)3.18 (Build Chess-466.4.1)Unchanged
Image Capture8.0 (1106)8.0 (1106)Unchanged
Voiceover Utility10 (869)10 (869)Unchanged
AirPort Utility6.3.9 (639.19)6.3.9 (639.19)Unchanged
Migration Assistant13.1 (13.1)13.1 (13.1)Unchanged
Terminal2.13 (447)2.13 (447)Unchanged
Activity Monitor10.14 (1107)10.14 (1107)Unchanged
Console1.1 (8.1)1.1 (8.1)Unchanged
Keychain Access11.0 (55300.40.2)11.0 (55300.40.2)Unchanged
Automator2.10 (520)2.10 (520)Unchanged
Script Editor2.11 (227)2.11 (227)Unchanged
Disk Utility22.3 (1730)22.3 (1730)Unchanged
Digital Color Meter5.22 (5.22)5.22 (5.22)Unchanged
ColorSync Utility12.0.0 (420)12.0.0 (420)Unchanged
Bluetooth File Exchange9.0 (1)9.0 (1)Unchanged
Audio MIDI Setup3.5 (3.5)3.5 (3.5)Unchanged

Videos
(Feel free to make a YouTube video showcasing the new beta, and feature it here)

macOS Storage Size after updating: 8.41 GB

Feel free to edit anything and reply with your experience!
 
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Some people have reported during Beta 1 and Beta 2 that their external monitor stopped working. I had not experience it until installing this Beta 3. HDMI monitor.
 
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app aliases on the desktop... still open terminal 😔...
Oh wow... This sounds like a major issue. I actually used to use Alias on my desktop.
Added the issue to remaining issues and will report that.

Edit: Found out it does this with every Alias, except only apps open a window.
 
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Oh wow... This sounds like a major issue. I actually used to use Alias on my desktop.
Added the issue to remaining issues and will report that.

Edit: Found out it does this with every Alias, except only apps open a window.
seems worse here with beta 3. my folder aliases open, but a file alias brings up the terminal... with no terminal window. yikes
 
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Still having the same problem with the Beta 3.
Desktop icons (shortcuts) opening a terminal window.

No response from Apple Feedback.
apple rarely responds there, but there are now 'more than 10' similar reports, so hopefully... a fix with the next update.
 
apple rarely responds there, but there are now 'more than 10' similar reports, so hopefully... a fix with the next update.
No response from Apple Feedback.
They said possible fix for future OS update. hopefully that means Beta 4. I marked it as a major issue.
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Can anyone confirm the following destructive bug in Safari:

* Merging all windows (eg. two windows with 10 tabs each) will remove/delete any pinned tabs
 
a 13.1 beta issue then (as app aliases open the terminal on both my M2 and intel macs). thx!
No problemo!

In my case, except for two apps (will explain below), all the aliases, shortcuts, etc. in my Ventura OS 13.0.1 environment came with the migration of apps, settings, etc. from my Monterey OS 12.6.1 environment. The two that changed were 1) Onyx, as there is a specific version of it for Ventura, and 2) SuperDuper!, as I've been testing a beta version of it (from Dave Nanian of Shirt Pocket Software). Here are the aliases I have that are apps in the Dock:

Full Deck Solitaire
Klondike
Magic Number Machine
Transmission
VLC
Quicken 2017
Onyx
SuperDuper!
EasyFind
TechTool Pro
LibreOffice

Then, of course, there are all the Apple ones. They seem fine also.
 
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app aliases on the desktop... still open terminal 😔...
seems worse here with beta 3. my folder aliases open, but a file alias brings up the terminal... with no terminal window. yikes
I reverted to earlier beta, but yes any app alias including apple apps opened terminal or in some cases different apps altogether. Plus, it didn't have to be an alias on the desktop. Just anywhere in finder. Finder alias seemed ok. I was hoping a fix would be here this week to keep it moving along.
 
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I reverted to earlier beta, but yes any app alias including apple apps opened terminal or in some cases different apps altogether. Plus, it didn't have to be an alias on the desktop. Just anywhere in finder. Finder alias seemed ok. I was hoping a fix would be here this week to keep it moving along.
Forgot to mention that I have a folder on the desktop entitled "Internet Software", and inside it are 6 aliases of Brave, Firefox, Google Chrome, Opera, Thunderbird, and Tor. They work fine.

Seems so strange that folks are having these issues with the Beta, but not with V13.0.1.
 
hmm. any app alias i try (whether on the desktop, in a folder on the desktop, or in a folder such as Documents.. opens terminal. will wait for a fix; this started (for me) on the first 13.1 beta.

apple has 'more than 10' reports to deal with, so am sure we'll see a fix (hopefully soon)
 
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hmm. any app alias i try (whether on the desktop, in a folder on the desktop, or in a folder such as Documents.. opens terminal. will wait for a fix; this started (for me) on the first 13.1 beta.

apple has 'more than 10' reports to deal with, so am sure we'll see a fix (hopefully soon)
Yeah, Apple says for a future OS update. Hopefully that means Beta 4.
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Also, they marked it as more than 10 on the biggest issue I had since 13.0 Beta 1 and still no fix...
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Yeah, Apple says for a future OS update. Hopefully that means Beta 4.
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Also, they marked it as more than 10 on the biggest issue I had since 13.0 Beta 1 and still no fix...
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What's scary/troublesome is that this is not an issue at all with the current released version, V13.0.1. Yet present in the beta version of V13.1. Really don't want to see V13.1 released with this bug!
 
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