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Are external display issues fixed in Beta 10?


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iAppleOrchard

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macOS Ventura 13 Beta 10

Release Date
― October 4, 2022
Build Number ― 22A5365d
Apple Silicon System Firmware Version ― 8419.41.6
T2 BridgeOS Version

macOS Ventura 13 Beta 10 Release Notes

New Features & Changes
  • New Ventura screen saver
New Issues
  • Deleted messages may re-appear in the inbox for some users
  • Emails may not come in for some users
  • Focus would not show up on the other users end. Because of this, all messages will show a notification regardless of the focus status
Remaining Issues
  • Widgets may not load / appear completely black
  • Alarms may not play when display is asleep for a long period of time
    • Workaround: Make your display not fall asleep in Settings > Lock Screen > Turn display off on ____ when inactive. You can turn your brightness off.
  • Unable to play the next song, previous song, or pause using AirPods or keyboard.
    • Music will also not show in Control Center
    • Workaround: Reboot your Mac
Resolved Issues
  • Outlook spotlight search may not work properly
  • Continunity Camera no longer take a long time connect
  • Issues with external displays not working for some users
Pending Issue Status
(All issues from previous betas are now sorted to their respected categories)

Additional Notes
  • Finder:
    Old Build Number: 13.0
    New Build Number: 13.0
    Status: Unchanged
  • Safari:
    Old Build Number: 16.1 (18614.2.7.1.1)
    New Build Number: 16.1 (18614.2.9.1.4)
    Status: Changed
  • Messages:
    Old Build Number: 14.0 (6000)
    New Build Number: 14.0 (6000)
    Status: Unchanged
  • Mail:
    Old Build Number: 16.0 (3731.200.92)
    New Build Number: 16.0 (3731.200.110.1.2)
    Status: Changed
  • Maps:
    Old Build Number: 3.0 (2751.20.7.25.17)
    New Build Number: 3.0 (2751.20.7.25.17)
    Status: Unchanged
  • Photos:
    Old Build Number: 8.0 (510.1.160)
    New Build Number: 8.0 (511.0.130)
    Status: Changed
  • FaceTime:
    Old Build Number: 5.0 (3080)
    New Build Number: 5.0 (3080)
    Status: Unchanged
  • Calendar:
    Old Build Number: 11.0 (2930)
    New Build Number: 11.0 (2931)
    Status: Changed
  • Contacts:
    Old Build Number: 2531
    New Build Number: 2535
    Status: Changed
  • Reminders:
    Old Build Number: 7.0 (2715)
    New Build Number: 7.0 (2715)
    Status: Unchanged
  • Notes:
    Old Build Number: 4.10 (2161)
    New Build Number: 4.10 (2162)
    Status: Changed
  • TV/Music:
    Old Build Number: 1.3.0.132
    New Build Number: 1.3.0.136
    Status: Changed
  • Podcasts:
    Old Build Number: 1.1.0 (1710.13)
    New Build Number: 1.1.0 (1710.16)
    Status: Changed
  • News:
    Old Build Number: 8.1 (3228)
    New Build Number: 8.1 (3232.1)
    Status: Changed
  • App Store:
    Old Build Number: 3.0 (1007.1.12)
    New Build Number: 3.0 (1007.1.15)
    Status: Changed
  • System Settings:
    Old Build Number: 15.0 (15.0)
    New Build Number: 15.0 (15.0)
    Status: Unchanged
  • Clock:
    Old Build Number: 1.0 (62)
    New Build Number: 1.0 (62)
    Status: Unchanged
  • Weather:
    Old Build Number: 3.1 (305.1.1)
    New Build Number: 3.1 (307.0.2)
    Status: Changed
  • Calculator:
    Old Build Number: 10.16 (223)
    New Build Number: 10.16 (223)
    Status: Unchanged
  • Voice Memos:
    Old Build Number: 2.3 (2.3)
    New Build Number: 2.3 (2.3)
    Status: Unchanged
  • Feedback Assistant:
    Old Build Number: 5.1 (516)
    New Build Number: 5.1 (516)
    Status: Unchanged
  • Home:
    Old Build Number: 7.0 (681.1.1.4.1)
    New Build Number: 7.0 (681.2.3.4.1)
    Status: Changed
  • Preview:
    Old Build Number: 11.0 (1042)
    New Build Number: 11.0 (1042.1)
    Status: Changed
  • Books:
    Old Build Number: 5.0 (5692)
    New Build Number: 5.0 (5693)
    Status: Changed
  • Photo Booth:
    Old Build Number: 13.0 (1152)
    New Build Number: 13.0 (1153)
    Status: Changed
  • System Information:
    Old Build Number: 11.0 (915)
    New Build Number: 11.0 (915)
    Status: Unchanged
  • Stickies:
    Old Build Number: 10.2 (10.3)
    New Build Number: 10.2 (10.3)
    Status: Unchanged
  • Shortcuts:
    Old Build Number: 6.0 (1204.2)
    New Build Number: 6.0 (1206.3)
    Status: Changed
  • Dictionary:
    Old Build Number: 2.3.0 (294)
    New Build Number: 2.3.0 (294)
    Status: Unchanged'
  • Find My:
    Old Build Number: 4.0 (310.1.8)
    New Build Number: 4.0 (310.1.8)
    Status: Unchanged
  • TextEdit:
    Old Build Number: 1.18 (392)
    New Build Number: 1.18 (392)
    Status: Unchanged
  • QuickTime Player
    Old Build Number: 10.5 (1134.4.10)
    New Build Number: 10.5 (1148.4.1)
    Status: Changed
  • Grapher:
    Old Build Number: 2.7 (1)
    New Build Number: 2.7 (1)
    Status: Unchanged
  • Font Book:
    Old Build Number: 11.0 (9999) (Most likely the Apple employees accidentally put 9999 lol)
    New Build Number: 11.0 (461)
    Status: Changed
  • Chess:
    Old Build Number: 3.18 (Build Chess-466.4.1)
    New Build Number: 3.18 (Build Chess-466.4.1)
    Status: Unchanged
  • Image Capture
    Old Build Number: 8.0 (1106)
    New Build Number: 8.0 (1106)
    Status: Unchanged
  • Voiceover Utility:
    Old Build Number: 10 (862)
    New Build Number: 10 (864)
    Status: Changed
  • AirPort Utility:
    Old Build Number: 6.3.9 (639.19)
    New Build Number: 6.3.9 (639.19)
    Status: Unchanged
  • Migration Assistant:
    Old Build Number: 13.0 (13.0)
    New Build Number: 13.0 (13.0)
    Status: Unchanged
  • Terminal:
    Old Build Number: 2.13 (447)
    New Build Number: 2.13 (447)
    Status: Unchanged
  • Activity Monitor:
    Old Build Number: 10.14 (1107)
    New Build Number: 10.14 (1107)
    Status: Unchanged
  • Console:
    Old Build Number: 1.1 (7.0.3)
    New Build Number: 1.1 (7.0.3)
    Status: Unchanged
  • Keychain Access:
    Old Build Number: 11.0 (55400.40.2)
    New Build Number: 11.0 (55300.40.2)
    Status: Unchanged
  • Automator
    Old Build Number: 2.10 (519)
    New Build Number: 2.10 (520)
    Status: Changed
  • Script Editor:
    Old Build Number: 2.11 (227)
    New Build Number: 2.11 (227)
    Status: Unchanged
  • Disk Utility:
    Old Build Number: 22 (1729)
    New Build Number: 22 (1729)
    Status: Unchanged
  • Digital Color Meter:
    Old Build Number: 5.22 (5.22)
    New Build Number: 5.22 (5.22)
    Status: Unchanged
  • ColorSync Utility:
    Old Build Number: 12.0.0 (420)
    New Build Number: 12.0.0 (420)
    Status: Unchanged
  • Bluetooth File Exchange:
    Old Build Number: 9.0 (1)
    New Build Number: 9.0 (1)
    Status: Unchanged
  • Audio MIDI Setup:
    Old Build Number: 3.5 (3.5)
    New Build Number: 3.5 (3.5)
    Status: Unchanged

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Storage Size after updating: 17.9 GB

I am going to try to post these every time there is a new macOS release. I actually did this independently, but got inspired by @Banglazed 's iOS posts. I also added more info to this. Feel free to contribute anything.
 
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philippe2014

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Macos has become a garbage system filled with useless things password and especially bugs.
Just like the iPhone one all the years, it's wallet fashion.
The first system is not even mature another bone sees the day, it's nonsense money to the detriment of pleasure and logic.
Completely immature call share strategy, it's a shame, not to mention the price of the big nonsense machines.
 

srbNYC

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I've flagged this before, and been surprised no one else has. In Mail, the Find/Search function no longer includes folder names in results. It used to be a super-convenient way to navigate to entire Mail folders, and that functionality has been gone throughout Ventura. Doesn't it bother anyone but me?
 
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Cactii

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Macos has become a garbage system filled with useless things password and especially bugs.
Just like the iPhone one all the years, it's wallet fashion.
The first system is not even mature another bone sees the day, it's nonsense money to the detriment of pleasure and logic.
Completely immature call share strategy, it's a shame, not to mention the price of the big nonsense machines.
Now here is a guy who can't afford a Mac and trying to make himself feel good by playing it down. Who are you trying to convince except yourself?
 

PigsOnTheWing

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Jul 16, 2002
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Is Mail broken for anyone else? After updating to latest beta last night, I've got no mail coming in, regardless of whether it's an Apple mail account, Google Mail account, or others.
 

Detnator

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Macos has become a garbage system filled with useless things password and especially bugs.
Just like the iPhone one all the years, it's wallet fashion.
The first system is not even mature another bone sees the day, it's nonsense money to the detriment of pleasure and logic.
Completely immature call share strategy, it's a shame, not to mention the price of the big nonsense machines.
Umm... what? I've read this a few times and I still can't make any sense of it.
 

philippe2014

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Aug 21, 2022
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Now here is a guy who can't afford a Mac and trying to make himself feel good by playing it down. Who are you trying to convince except yourself?
Now here is a guy who can't afford a Mac and trying to make himself feel good by playing it down. Who are you trying to convince except yourself?
That's your opinion I have two IMAC 2014 and 2021 3 iPhone an Apple tv is two Homepod so I know what I'm talking about, read what I write and try to understand, don't talk to say nothing thank you in advance.
I have been using Apple products for 10 years so I see their evolution and this is my opinion whether you share it or not it is not my problem without a critical mind nothing improves.
 
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blesio

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all fine here, with iCloud and O365 accounts.
Quick question, do you have proper read status on O365 account? Meaning (sorry for my English), when you get a new email, there is a blue dot on that email on the email list, when you click the email, the content shows on the read pane on the right, does the blue dot always disappear for you? Are you using conversation view?
Thanks
 

srbNYC

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Quick question, do you have proper read status on O365 account? Meaning (sorry for my English), when you get a new email, there is a blue dot on that email on the email list, when you click the email, the content shows on the read pane on the right, does the blue dot always disappear for you? Are you using conversation view?
Thanks
For a long time, I have had the occasional issue of read O365 messages not registering as "read." That predates even Ventura.
 

fisherking

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Is Mail broken for anyone else? After updating to latest beta last night, I've got no mail coming in, regardless of whether it's an Apple mail account, Google Mail account, or others.
mine has been buggy too, i keep finding i'm disconnected... then mail reconnects after a while (or after threatening the app). frustrating, reported in feedback assistant. life on the beta program...

EDIT: FWIW, resetting my modem & router... twice, may have fixed this issue (at least, seems so). will report back if not...
 
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fisherking

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mine has been buggy too, i keep finding i'm disconnected... then mail reconnects after a while (or after threatening the app). frustrating, reported in feedback assistant. life on the beta program...

EDIT: FWIW, resetting my modem & router... twice, may have fixed this issue (at least, seems so). will report back if not...
not fixed (the email thing). hopefully next release (beta? final??)... reported again as well
 

joptimus

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Has anyone noticed a change in two-finger zooming on trackpad, e.g. with Google Maps? It seems to be on speed - much too fast to reliably do it. I don't know with which beta it exactly happened, but like 4 weeks ago it was fine.

Edit:
Seems to be Google Maps itself. When opening booking.com and using their maps (also based on G Maps?), it's perfectly fine speedwise.
 

iAppleOrchard

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Has anyone noticed a change in two-finger zooming on trackpad, e.g. with Google Maps? It seems to be on speed - much too fast to reliably do it. I don't know with which beta it exactly happened, but like 4 weeks ago it was fine.

Edit:
Seems to be Google Maps itself. When opening booking.com and using their maps (also based on G Maps?), it's perfectly fine speedwise.
Zooming in and out seems to be normal for me. I dont use Google Maps so it could just be a website update.
 

gank41

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I'm having some pretty buggy issues with Mail, too, just like the release notes point out. I'm also still unbelievably surprised that no one seems to care or notice that Apple's Mail app still just dumps you right into the next email in whatever folder you're currently in. If you Delete or Move an Email, the email app BY DEFAULT should just bring you right back out to the list, whether that be if you're in your inbox or a folder. Looking at a new email and don't want the next email in line to be marked as read? Too bad! I've had privacy issues/moments where I've deleted an email we were looking at, and then up comes one of my bills on the screen for all to see... 🤦‍♂️
 

fisherking

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I'm having some pretty buggy issues with Mail, too, just like the release notes point out. I'm also still unbelievably surprised that no one seems to care or notice that Apple's Mail app still just dumps you right into the next email in whatever folder you're currently in. If you Delete or Move an Email, the email app BY DEFAULT should just bring you right back out to the list, whether that be if you're in your inbox or a folder. Looking at a new email and don't want the next email in line to be marked as read? Too bad! I've had privacy issues/moments where I've deleted an email we were looking at, and then up comes one of my bills on the screen for all to see... 🤦‍♂️
i don't understand this. where should you be moved to, after deleting an email (and how would the app know where you want to go?). i always see the email highlighted just above the one i just deleted... and i think it's always been that way.

what behavior are you expecting?
 

gank41

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i don't understand this. where should you be moved to, after deleting an email (and how would the app know where you want to go?). i always see the email highlighted just above the one i just deleted... and i think it's always been that way.

what behavior are you expecting?
If you open Apple's Mail app from scratch, it puts you in the list view where you see all of your emails. THIS is what I'm referring to. Once I delete an email or move it, it shouldn't just dump you into the next email in your list. It should take you back to that initial list view where you see all of your emails.

Most, if not all other 3rd party Mail Apps I've also tried have that as an option- Either Return to List or go to Next Email. From a privacy standpoint, automatically showing you another email doesn't make sense to me.
 

fisherking

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i think it makes sense as is; for example, someone checking their inbox, and deleting what they want to delete, as they scroll thru new mail.

what you want is an option, and if apple isn't offering that, you can use one of the other mail apps you referenced.
 
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