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Apple's Safari browser has a built-in password suggestion feature across iOS and macOS, and with iOS 16, iPadOS 16, and macOS Ventura, it's getting more convenient than ever.

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Across these platforms, there is now an option to edit a strong password that is suggested by Apple, which allows it to be tailored to site specific requirements. Websites sometimes have password creation requirements that include special characters, don't allow for special characters, need a specific length, or ask for other customizations not met by the strong password requirements, which can now be fixed with the edit option.

You can tap on a suggested password and choose the "Other Options" interface to access the "Edit Strong Password" interface. From here, you can change the characters that have been suggested. You can also opt for a quick access "Easy to Type" or "No Special Characters" option.

In macOS Monterey, iOS 15, and iPadOS 15, there are no options for suggested passwords other than opting to use it or choosing to create your own password, so this should make the built-in password feature more palatable to Mac and iOS users.

Article Link: macOS Ventura and iOS 16 Let You Edit Suggested Passwords for Site-Specific Requirements
 

al256

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While I really appreciate this... I need Apple to collect a list of all the **** websites that don't accept their password conventions and... warn me this doesn't support their password creation policies, publicly list them... something to get them to change.
 
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Ozid

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I swear it has always done this. On very stringent websites, the generated password is always accordingly far more complex.
 

Foxfyr

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I hope they fixed the issue where some of the suggested passwords are not saved anywhere in the keychain, despite having clicked on the "save in the keychain" button. Occurred a few times to me, and I stopped to use this feature because of the lack of reliability of keychain to save suggested passwords
I've never had this issue. I have had trouble finding what a password was saved under when not noticing that a website's login creation page wasn't the same as it's main url.
 
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Apple_Robert

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I hope they fixed the issue where some of the suggested passwords are not saved anywhere in the keychain, despite having clicked on the "save in the keychain" button. Occurred a few times to me, and I stopped to use this feature because of the lack of reliability of keychain to save suggested passwords
What you described is the reason why I stopped using KeyChain. It happened to me several times and I had to look elsewhere.
 

Treq

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I hope they fixed the issue where some of the suggested passwords are not saved anywhere in the keychain, despite having clicked on the "save in the keychain" button. Occurred a few times to me, and I stopped to use this feature because of the lack of reliability of keychain to save suggested passwords
I had this very issue while changing my iCloud password. I was locked out of my account for days with nothing apple support could do. I just had to wait for it to time out so I could change the password again. Extremely annoying.
 

TheDailyApple

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I’ve been wanting this. It’s super annoying when the generated password doesn’t fit the requirements. IMHO websites shouldn’t force any password requirements besides minimum length. They should just leave it up to the user. (And character requirements actually decrease the total number of combinations when you think about it. If special characters are required, then a brute force attach can skip every combination that doesn’t have them.)

The worst password requirement I encounter is a maximum length. (No more than 12-16 characters) Why would you set a limit on the max length?!?
 

walnuts

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I hope they fixed the issue where some of the suggested passwords are not saved anywhere in the keychain, despite having clicked on the "save in the keychain" button. Occurred a few times to me, and I stopped to use this feature because of the lack of reliability of keychain to save suggested passwords
Yeah.. this. I know they have good people working on this, but could they PLEASE have a few simple things:
  • A way to force create a password if Safari didn't understand its asking for a password (yes this happens sometimes)
  • When I do create a password, bring up a dialogue that says-hey, I am creating a password for you. It looks like the below- do you agree?
    • Website
    • Username
    • Password (or part of it/partially obscured)
For all its smarts (that frustrating attitude where we don't need to give people options because of course we have it right), Apple gets some of the above wrong and stuff gets lost.

For those of you who have lost passwords, I have lost some too, but I have found a few because I wasn't aware that the domain was different from the common name of the website I was looking at. Like my ESPN login was buried under a Disney name, or my Long Island Railroad Ticket password was under "justride.com" because that was the vendor they used to build the app.

Does 1Password do this? I was hoping with this WWDC apple would do this, but if not, I am going to start looking into an alternative.
 

walnuts

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Also, haha- have any of you forgotten a password, gone to the "reset password" link, and only after you've started the process remembered what password you used once you saw the byzantine requirements the particular website has? OH... this one requires numbers AND characters so I used "correct4horse&batterystaple"...
 
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velocityg4

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That's great. Now if only websites would tell you the *#&@%! password rules. I hate websites which either don't tell you the password rules. Until you enter a bad password. Although that's not as bad as websites which simply don't accept a password but not tell you what's wrong.

Even worse are websites that ignore when passwords are too long and just use the first characters. So, you think all is good. Until you try to login again. Finding the new password is always wrong. Until you keep resetting and eventually try creating a shorter password.

As for Keychain. I don't use it. I need something which is platform agnostic. I'd consider it. If they made a Android port. Also addons for Chromium and Mozilla based browsers.
 

mjs916

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That's great. Now if only websites would tell you the *#&@%! password rules. I hate websites which either don't tell you the password rules. Until you enter a bad password. Although that's not as bad as websites which simply don't accept a password but not tell you what's wrong.

Even worse are websites that ignore when passwords are too long and just use the first characters. So, you think all is good. Until you try to login again. Finding the new password is always wrong. Until you keep resetting and eventually try creating a shorter password.

As for Keychain. I don't use it. I need something which is platform agnostic. I'd consider it. If they made a Android port. Also addons for Chromium and Mozilla based browsers.
This made me recall when I keyed a password correctly and gmail said “You changed that password 2 months ago” and Apple gives “your password can’t be the same as your last password”.

Had it been someone else trying to get into my account, they both just confirmed that I’ve used that password recently so they can go trying that in another other account of mine they might know about.

It was then I started using keychain. I use it along system of password creation “rules” to ensure I don’t forget and that they are unique. Other times I let Safari create it and adjust it manually if it needs special characters. This new ability will help out in that area.
 
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gmanist1000

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I hope they fixed the issue where some of the suggested passwords are not saved anywhere in the keychain, despite having clicked on the "save in the keychain" button. Occurred a few times to me, and I stopped to use this feature because of the lack of reliability of keychain to save suggested passwords
I just screenshot the suggested password before clicking. I check keychain afterwards to see if it saved, and if not, add it manually.
 

zecanard

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While I really appreciate this... I need Apple to collect a list of all the **** websites that don't accept their password conventions and... warn me this doesn't support their password creation policies, publicly list them... something to get them to change.

Apple actually maintains a GitHub repository for this. It could definitely need help:
 

onlinespending

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I hope they fixed the issue where some of the suggested passwords are not saved anywhere in the keychain, despite having clicked on the "save in the keychain" button. Occurred a few times to me, and I stopped to use this feature because of the lack of reliability of keychain to save suggested passwords
Or the annoying limitation where it won’t suggest the right password associated with the username that was just entered, when you have multiple username/passwords saved for the same site (such as gmail)
 

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