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So I guess we'll get a RC for devs today and that'll be what they ship as the final release.
I've been using it since the day one and there are definitely still plenty of bugs to iron out.
 
So I guess we'll get a RC for devs today and that'll be what they ship as the final release.
I've been using it since the day one and there are definitely still plenty of bugs to iron out.

There are still plenty of major bugs in Monterey and we're at the 6th point release on that.

It's just how Apple rolls these days.
 
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So I guess we'll get a RC for devs today and that'll be what they ship as the final release.
I've been using it since the day one and there are definitely still plenty of bugs to iron out.
Any bugs as serious as the Monterey memory-leak bug back when it first released?
 
To be fair, the overall UI still somewhat maintained the pre Yosemite aesthetic up until Catalina.

Clearly, Alan Dye didn't think it was good enough.
Hey thanks. I didn’t “upgrade” to Yosemite past Mavericks with my 2014 MBA since I didn’t like much of what I saw with Yosemite. I didn’t like the transparency (who uses transparent paper on your desk at home or work? So why is it “better” on screen), flat design, and non-Apple-looking font. But I gave in and went to Sierra after a while, and the aesthetic was not too terrible. (Meaning: minimalist elements of the interface were not too terrible steps backward).

When i purchased an M1 MBA then I was forced into Big Sur of course. When placed side by side with my 2014 MBA with Sierra, I so prefer much of its interface aesthetic. Not for nostalgia and a clinging to something, but it’s just more eye/user friendly and intuitive, rather than be a slave to minimalist/flat design/low-contrast.
 
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Anybody running Adobe Creative Cloud on the Ventura betas? I'm going to be so tempted to upgrade but not if it destroys my ability to use Illustrator...
I’ve been fine with Photoshop on my M1 running Ventura, but haven’t tried Illustrator there. Meanwhile, Adobe just dropped a big bunch of CC updates, including new point-oh versions of Photoshop and Illustrator (also InDesign and some others.) Coincidence?
 
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Any bugs as serious as the Monterey memory-leak bug back when it first released?

Nothing that serious, at least not in my experience. VLC/INNA bug was the most annoying but seems to be fixed now. I still get widgets freezing now and than and some external drives are not cooperating all the time.
 
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I'm interested to see when Freeform is released. Wondering how it can compete with some other software.
Looking at some of the 10th gen iPad promotional photos ("The Student Chronicle"), we can see a bit more about what Freeform will do.

It shows PDF, Pages and Keynote files pasted on the whiteboard. I'm interested to know whether you can annotate the PDFs on the whiteboard. Perhaps via Markup?
 
OK, so I will make sure I do my monthly Time Machine backups this weekend, in anticipation of upgrading my Macs I plan to use Ventura on. (My M1 MacBook Air and my 2015 Retina 15" MacBook Pro, using OpenCore Legacy Patcher for the latter.)
 
Can't wait for Ventura to drop, always enjoy upgrading to the new Mac OS. But when will the new MBPs drop? If I had to guess it would be the 3rd week of November, 4 Weeks from the iPads dropping today makes sense to me.
 
Has any vendor released a mount for Continuity Camera yet?
I purchased this one from Amazon. It works very nice on the 14” M1 Pro MacBook. You can slide it easily where you want it. On my 2014 MacBook Pro it fits snug.
TEYOUYI Continuity Camera Mount Clip Compatible with iPhone 12, 13 & 14 Series with case,Installed on MacBook Air Great for Developers and iOS 16 Beta Users https://a.co/d/cexMqSr
 
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For people wondering, Apple started to sell the Belkin mount for Continuity Camera
I bought this one:
TEYOUYI Continuity Camera Mount Clip Compatible with iPhone 12, 13 & 14 Series with case,Installed on MacBook Air Great for Developers and iOS 16 Beta Users https://a.co/d/cexMqSr
 
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Me too. Apple hit peak wallpaper with the dynamic Mojave, Catalina, and Big Sur wallpapers, then got rid of them with Monterey. I have no idea why.

I’m sure AAPL spent thousands and thousands of dollars on research and designer/artiste hours to create, vet out, refine, and finally agree upon a simple, minimalist wallpaper theme.

#nonvalueadded
#aapleusedtobeassociatedwithartandsciencebutnowitsmostlyminimalismandprofitandquarterlygrowthfirst
 
I wish they would add *BACK* a freaking hint of contrast in apps like Mail so the folders bar, commands up top, emails/folder summary, and email preview didn’t all blend together in a complete white-out!

Edit: I added *BACK* because the OS interface for Mail (and other native apps) used to be quite attractive *and* intuitive with how it was laid out before Mac OS was “improved” to the minimalist white-out it is today.

Edit #2: I’ve been experimenting since day 1 with increase contrast and other adjustments Apple condescendingly and dismissively hides under “Accessibility.” Not enough improvement/change back to similar to how it was before. Those settings belong under a section titled “Common Sense and Intuitive User Interface Element Options” and not “Accessibility.”
I agreed with you — then I went to my System Prefs to check that Increase Contrast was on; it was. I played around with that and the Contrast slider and, wow, suddenly, it worked and I have black lines round everything in Mail and Safari and much clearer tabs etc. It's less pretty but a lot more visible!

So it's worth have another fiddle with it! Good luck!
 
I agreed with you — then I went to my System Prefs to check that Increase Contrast was on; it was. I played around with that and the Contrast slider and, wow, suddenly, it worked and I have black lines round everything in Mail and Safari and much clearer tabs etc. It's less pretty but a lot more visible!

So it's worth have another fiddle with it! Good luck!

Thanks, I did that a long time ago too and it was a step up! Except now it looks like macOS of the 80s and 90s…black lines and all-white monochromatic all around. The interface was quite good a few OS iterations prior, but still too unnecessarily minimalist monochromatic to me.
 
Will give it 6 months to settle before I think of upgrading.......
 
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