Macrumors and Racism

[Hoosier317]

Why does MacRumors, as an entity, continue to support the trafficking of racist ideologies within the comments sections of their articles and within their forums? Why do the Macrumors staff support this apparent policy and abide by it? You are complicit in your silence. There are no First Amendment protections here and you are fully within your rights to purge this type of hateful commentary from your platform. This is a simple issue where no grey area exists. You either support the proliferation of racism or you oppose it.

 

[BigMcGuire]

Because people like you label anyone who doesn't agree with you as a racist and expect moderators to ban them. That's why you aren't getting what you want.

 

[Weaselboy]

Nobody at this site supports racism or racist comments in the forums.

If you see comments you believe violate the rules, please report them so we can review.

 

[Hoosier317]

Because people like you brandish anyone who doesn't agree with you as a racist and expect moderators to ban them. That's why you aren't getting what you want.

This is pretty simple: Either you support efforts to curb systemic racism or you don’t. If you willingly choose not to, that’s on you. Own it.

Either way, the question was for the moderators who asked that I post it here and various other MacRumors staff.

 

[Hoosier317]

Nobody at this site supports racism or racist comments in the forums.

If you see comments you believe violate the rules, please report them so we can review.

Done. Now it is up to you to actually follow through on that statement.

 

[RecentlyConverted]

Most people are on here to find out rumors of possible new products, to find out about useful applications for our Apple products, to learn of problems with the hardware, os or Apple or 3rd party applications. To sing the praises of Apple, and to have the occasional moan about Apple.

Maybe the Politics, Religion and Social issues section should go to another website. But for crying out loud, can we enjoy a tech site (and other sites), without race baiting. I would welcome this site being tech only.

To address the original poster though, many countries have free speech, you are responsible for what you say and it is illegal in these countries amongst other things to encourage violence against others with your words. People saying what you or I don´t like about a race, (which may be factually correct), does not make it racist. Saying anything against any religion is never, and can never be racist, as the religion someone follows is down to "independent thought", you chose your religion if you are free to do so, (if you want to follow one at all) - you can´t chose your race.

I am sure the moderators here would quickly delete any illegal, hateful or factually incorrect posts, but I don´t see why they should take down posts you or I don´t like.

 

[Hoosier317]

Nobody at this site supports racism or racist comments in the forums.

If you see comments you believe violate the rules, please report them so we can review.

Many more have now been reported. Again, your turn.

 

[motulist]

Why does MacRumors, as an entity, continue to support the trafficking of racist ideologies within the comments sections of their articles and within their forums? Why do the Macrumors staff support this apparent policy and abide by it? You are complicit in your silence. There are no First Amendment protections here and you are fully within your rights to purge this type of hateful commentary from your platform. This is a simple issue where no grey area exists. You either support the proliferation of racism or you oppose it.

Oy, please stop. You shouting a claim of wrong-doing when there isn't any only results in seriously diminishing the effect when people call out someone for actual wrong-doing.

I presume you're young, and you're trying to do the right thing, and it feels very exciting to feel like you're being a hero, but you're actually just hurting our cause.

 

[Hoosier317]

Nobody at this site supports racism or racist comments in the forums.

If you see comments you believe violate the rules, please report them so we can review.

...and you did absolutely nothing. I did what you asked. I reported people who were clearly posting in support of perpetuating systemic racism and you did nothing. Is this the official stance you have taken as a team and representatives of MacRumors? If so, others should and will be made aware.
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Oy, please stop. You shouting a claim of wrong-doing when there's isn't any only results in seriously diminishing the effect when people call out someone for actual wrong-doing.

I presume you're young, and your trying to do the right thing, and it feels very exciting to feel like you're being a hero, but you're actually just hurting our cause.

Are you a moderator? If not, this conversation does not concern you.

 

[chown33]

If you have questions or disagree with moderation, please send a note to the administrators using the Contact Us link:

Contact us

forums.macrumors.com

One of the site administrators will review your note and reply to you.

You can ask about reports you made that were rejected. I suggest picking one reported post to start with.

 

[Weaselboy]

Two different moderators reviewed each of the ten reports you submitted and agreed none of the comments you reported were a violation of the site rules.

As @chown33 mentioned, please use the contact us process if you disagree.

 

[motulist]

...and you did absolutely nothing. I did what you asked. I reported people who were clearly posting in support of perpetuating systemic racism and you did nothing. Is this the official stance you have taken as a team and representatives of MacRumors? If so, others should and will be made aware.
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Are you a moderator? If not, this conversation does not concern you.

Sigh. You have no idea what you're talking about. I'll just ask one more time and then I'm leaving this discussion - please try to de-escalate your feelings, calm your mind, and try to think about if this is really a way to achieve the change you want to see in the world. (Hint: it isn't.)

I know it's very hard to back down when you've publicly made claims and then realized you're wrong, but I promise you you'll feel better going that route. And it'll also create the best change for the world that can come out of this situation.

Best of luck!

 

[oneMadRssn]

The whole PRSI subforum is a junior /r/T_D - it's a cancer on this site.

I think MR should put it to a user vote whether to delete that whole subforum.

 

[Juicy Box]

I personally think the MR Mod team does a pretty good job at reviewing reported posts and taking action when it should be taken.

I have had at least one of my posts removed for various reasons, and in retrospect, it was the right move by them as I was in the wrong.

I am unsure what posts the OP claim are racist or in violation of the forum rules, but chances are, it is just posts that have opinions that the OP doesn't agree with.

To the MR Mod Team: Thank you, and keep up the good work!

 

[QCassidy352]

The whole PRSI subforum is a junior /r/T_D - it's a cancer on this site.

I think MR should put it to a user vote whether to delete that whole subforum.

You can block it in user preferences. I did so yesterday and am already having a better experience.

Agree that the moderation here is very good, and appreciated.

 

[oneMadRssn]

You can block it in user preferences. I did so yesterday and am already having a better experience.

It's not sufficient. Still shows up under "Latest Posts."

Agree that the moderation here is very good, and appreciated.

Hard disagree.

 

[QCassidy352]

It's not sufficient. Still shows up under "Latest Posts."

I don't see it anywhere, including in the new posts news feed. This is on both mobile and desktop. Not sure what you're seeing.

Hard disagree.

I've had posts removed or edited a handful of times over the years (been here 17 years!) where I disagreed with the moderation. But it's a hard job, and there are plenty of close calls. Even people trying their best to apply the rules fairly and consistently might have honest disagreements about posts that are close calls.

 

[AngerDanger]

I don't see it anywhere, including in the new posts news feed. This is on both mobile and desktop. Not sure what you're seeing.

I block the PRSI too, but this still shows up. It's not the biggest deal, but I do occasionally find one thread title too irresistibly stupid to not click.

 

[RecentlyConverted]

I block the PRSI too, but this still shows up. It's not the biggest deal, but I do occasionally find one thread title too irresistibly stupid to not click.

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I know the feeling, there is always going to be an article you want to comment on, then regret doing so!

 

[chrfr]

It's not sufficient. Still shows up under "Latest Posts."

You can hide forums from showing up in the latest posts feed, fortunately. I forget exactly how I did it, but I did.

 

[Plutonius]

I do occasionally find one thread title too irresistibly stupid to not click.

I know the feeling, there is always going to be an article you want to comment on, then regret doing so!

I think that most people would be okay if they didn't want to have the last word.

It's follow on comments that usual cause people problems.

 

[icanhazmac]

Many more have now been reported. Again, your turn.

Some bring thoughts and ideas to further a conversation, some bring hate and beg for thoughts and ideas to be snuffed out. We may not always agree but we should always be able to have a conversation, even if the topics are challenging.

 

[retta283]

Strange that some of you still see PRSI stuff in your Latest Posts. It can take a bit for the block to fully kick in once you enable it, but it should not show them. Unless something has changed recently, that should not happen.

 

[QCassidy352]

I block the PRSI too, but this still shows up. It's not the biggest deal, but I do occasionally find one thread title too irresistibly stupid to not click.

huh, that's odd. I am not seeing that. Totally gone for me.

You can hide forums from showing up in the latest posts feed, fortunately. I forget exactly how I did it, but I did.

Maybe I did that too a while ago? But I don't think so… I think it just stopped showing up when I blocked the forum yesterday.

 

[lunarworks]

Let's just say that MacRumors has a "reputation" amongst the larger tech community. Whenever it's brought up, people say "don't go in the comments". It goes beyond racism, into homophobia and toxic whining in general.