techpr
macrumors 6502a
You can still access them. The account only goes in freeze mode (you cannot edit). Once you renew you can edit again but you never lost access to your entire passwords list.
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You can still access them. The account only goes in freeze mode (you cannot edit). Once you renew you can edit again but you never lost access to your entire passwords list.
mashdots
macrumors 6502
1Password is far and away a better password management app than iCloud Keychain. I think iCK is good for people who aren't computer savvy mainly because of convenience. I would add that separation of concerns is nice to have. iCloud is terrific, but I don't want apple to be holding all of my things.
Also to echo:
In my opinion (having used 1Password for a while, as well as Lastpass), Bitwarden is the way to go. Works super well, has TONS of features just in the free tier. Is open-source and secure. I switched a couple of years ago and never looked back.
What the heck? I figured I’d trial 1Password for 2 weeks via the Macrumors link to see if I wanted to give up my personal account for a family, and it says it’s $3.49 for the first 6 months and then $7 a month after. So I guess I’m cancelling. This isn’t worth that.
I think I’ll be switching to Bitwarden.
I think I’ll be switching to Bitwarden.
I can recommend BitWarden. It has most stuff you need included.
I used to use LastPass, but the UI is rather clunky, price kept going up with no new major features, and the separate LastPass Authenticator app is a joke -- it can only be used on one device at a time (so you're SOL if your phone is out of reach or dead), it's a pain when you're logging into an app to have to switch between three different apps, and you can't view your 2FA codes on your Apple Watch.
I looked at Bitwarden a couple years ago when I was trying to decide whether to renew LastPass or go somewhere else, and for as highly as everyone speaks of it, I found it shockingly primitive. The UI looked like something straight out of 1995, it had very limited support for iOS password auto-fill, no Safari integration, and the sync options all involved some hassle with a third-party service. You'd be better off with iCloud Keychain than Bitwarden.
1Password takes care of all of those issues. The built-in QR code scanner for macOS is the best thing since sliced bread and their integration with Safari in iOS 15 (especially on iPad) is second-to-none. 2FA autofill makes 2FA easy as cake to use across every account that supports it. You'll basically never copy and paste passwords and TOTP codes again.
Easily worth the price of a yearly family subscription to be able to selectively share personal/family credentials with different family members and look up my work accounts' 2FA codes right from my Watch while logging in to those services. I can't imagine that I'd ever go back to LastPass or anything else given how good 1P is.
I looked at Bitwarden a couple years ago when I was trying to decide whether to renew LastPass or go somewhere else, and for as highly as everyone speaks of it, I found it shockingly primitive. The UI looked like something straight out of 1995, it had very limited support for iOS password auto-fill, no Safari integration, and the sync options all involved some hassle with a third-party service. You'd be better off with iCloud Keychain than Bitwarden.
1Password takes care of all of those issues. The built-in QR code scanner for macOS is the best thing since sliced bread and their integration with Safari in iOS 15 (especially on iPad) is second-to-none. 2FA autofill makes 2FA easy as cake to use across every account that supports it. You'll basically never copy and paste passwords and TOTP codes again.
Easily worth the price of a yearly family subscription to be able to selectively share personal/family credentials with different family members and look up my work accounts' 2FA codes right from my Watch while logging in to those services. I can't imagine that I'd ever go back to LastPass or anything else given how good 1P is.
I'm in the anti-subscription camp. Just like with where I live, or the car I drive, or my toaster - I prefer to own vs rent. The makers of 1Password can update their product to a new version whenever they want and charge whatever they reckon is fair so I can own it. I will decide if I want it or not. I fully get all the people saying they think 1Password is a great product, but that's beside the point. Renting is all about extracting more money from people than if they own it - always has been, always will be.
k.alexander
macrumors 6502a
Yes. More or less did the same thing just last month.
Bit the bullet. I can't stand subscription software, but I live and have lived in 1PW for a very long time. And I "manage" it for my wife and at least two parents. I looked at the competition, and in order to do more than one (person) vault, i.e. family, and/or do 2FA, etc., they all require some kind of minimal payment. I'm specifically referring to BitWarden. Not sure I looked at KeyPass with any degree of detail, and that in fact maybe a fully free options, but the little that I saw of it was a turn off.
As for KeyChain. It is ok as a more basic password "program" especially if you use solely or largely apple devices.
I'll say this to the 1Password team reading this. Just a week or two ago, I was asked to help set up 1Pw for an older aunt. She has minimal needs, but her son is worried that her bank/investment accounts are safe. He asked me to set up 1Pw on her phone. Not so quickly realized that you can no longer set it up on the phone to use iCloud/Dropbox to sync a single vault for one person. We decided it wasn't worth the trouble for her use, and set her up with KeyChain instead. At the same family gathering, another person who can afford to pay a few $$ per month asked why I was using 1Pw, his choice is open source and free KeyPass.
Anyways, I got first year of subscription at significant discount. Will maybe re-evaluate in year. There are definitely alternatives out there, and MANY MANY people have refused all along or are balking after a while of being tied to these perpetual subscription services.
1Password 8 is not that good sadly.
I like 1Password 7 though. Though I know it won't be around forever.
I like 1Password 7 though. Though I know it won't be around forever.
I decided to abandon 1Password when they switched from a native app to electron in the 8 beta.
aaaand.... that is why I use ENPASS.. much better user experience (not trying to shill you out for a subscription fee)... It can store your database locally AND it imports your 1password database for use. SECRETS maybe be my second choice. No thank you 1Password.........
Mashdots, Agreed, I used to use 1PW up until V6. When it went to subscription I didn’t upgrade and continued on V6. Slowly i found that Safari extension stopped working and so i looked around for alternatives. Lastpass didn’t fit my work flow and isnt cheap, Bitwarden does everything i need it to and its free, and was super easy to import all my 1PW data! It works on all my devices and is cross platform, not that i need that. I do pay for the $10 extras and find the secure file send feature really, really useful.
dallegre
macrumors regular
Because it works outside of the Apple ecosystem too, family sharing, security scoring (most of these keep track of weak/duplicate passwords).
I have used/trialed a few of these services, and I'm currently using Keeper.
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1Password lost me as a customer the minute they announced the removal of local vaults and standalone licenses. The move to an Electron app for 1Password 8 is just icing on the cake. I’ve been using 1Password for upwards of 10 years now, and this whole mess of a situation feels like a bad breakup.
With that being said, if you’re looking for an alternative to -Password beyond iCloud Keychain, I highly recommend Enpass. It’s interface isn’t as refined as 1Password, but it supports local vaults, standalone licenses, is a native app, and isn’t being developed by people actively screwing over their customers.
Finally, don’t be fooled by this 50% discount for a year, as it is a complete joke. A family subscription is normally $5/month, or $60/year. Let’s say you and your family use 1Password for the next 40 years, the lifetime costs comes out to $2400! With this discount, you save a whopping $30 out of $2400, or 1.25%.
With that being said, if you’re looking for an alternative to -Password beyond iCloud Keychain, I highly recommend Enpass. It’s interface isn’t as refined as 1Password, but it supports local vaults, standalone licenses, is a native app, and isn’t being developed by people actively screwing over their customers.
Finally, don’t be fooled by this 50% discount for a year, as it is a complete joke. A family subscription is normally $5/month, or $60/year. Let’s say you and your family use 1Password for the next 40 years, the lifetime costs comes out to $2400! With this discount, you save a whopping $30 out of $2400, or 1.25%.
flyingspur
macrumors regular
Used 1Password for years, always purchased stand alone for Mac, iOS & Win, no sub., and then electron came, that solidified my decision. My 1Password import was flawless. I'll gladly pay the yearly fee to them. Arq Backup v6 was written in electron, awful, v7 anew almost immediately. Back on track.
Bitwarden FTW!
Bitwarden FTW!
Mr. Heckles
macrumors 68000
I’m not a fan of it either, but I also don’t need it. I can use the extension alone without the desktop app. So that problem was easily solve.
maj71303
macrumors regular
I use Enpass exclusively. I first started with Lastpass but these subscription based services not going to get my money. With Enpass I can use my own cloud and not worry about them storing my vault since they don’t do that.
Apple_Robert
Contributor
I wouldn't advise someone to do that. If something goes bad, you could be in a world of login hurt. It is best to keep the 2FA portion separate, in my opinion.
cbprrdoo
macrumors newbie
They charge you all at once..$30/year. If that's too expensive for you, I'm not sure you're in the right ecosystem. Some of ya'll sound more like Android users lol.
50% off of one year when you have to pay for the rest of your life. 🤦🏼♂️😂
my gripe w/ 1P is the old version(s) worked fine. They developed all these features that not everyone needed / wanted and then forced a sub model to justify the feature creep.
I would be all for a lite vs pro sub model but as-is, their move got me to start looking at alternatives and found Keychain plus secure Notes works good enough. Was a user since v3. Shame
I would be all for a lite vs pro sub model but as-is, their move got me to start looking at alternatives and found Keychain plus secure Notes works good enough. Was a user since v3. Shame
Have you tried 1Password 8 yet? The QR code reader is gone from the app (only works in the browser extension), plus it's Electron and just has a slew of usability issues.
Literally up until August I constantly sang 1Password praises and recommended it to everyone I could. Not any more, and I regret those recommendations immensely. I've never seen a company as beloved as AgileBits fall from grace as quickly and drastically as they have over the past few months.
ackmondual
macrumors 68020
I'm sure you didn't mean that literally. Even figuratively, only thing I can suggest is to find other ways you can slash your budget. I used to buy orange juice once a week. I saved about $20 per month from not doing that anymore. I've also cut back on streaming services, rotating them out as needed. Food for thought.
If you haven't already, consider reaching out and asking them