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MacRumors Live Feed Hacked
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Why wasn't the coverage pulled when the Steve Jobs is Dead comment was first shown? Even I was tipped off that it looked like it had been hacked....?
Got pretty bad after that and feed wasn't pulled until the disturbing images...
I am beyond disappointed.
Got pretty bad after that and feed wasn't pulled until the disturbing images...
I am beyond disappointed.
Why wasn't the coverage pulled when the Steve Jobs is Dead comment was first shown? Even I was tipped off that it looked like it had been hacked....?
Got pretty bad after that and feed wasn't pulled until the disturbing images...
I am beyond disappointed.
The admins were at the event, so I presume it was hard to just take the site down remotley. These things happen.
Precisely. Just because you don't know how to complain to who did this, don't take it out on whoever you can.
coverage was pulled very quickly. New visitors were redirected away. The problem with the self-loading feed is that the browser doesn't reload the whole page regularly.
arn
am i the only one who found it a little bit funny? i mean c'mon, can't you appreciate a little chaos? i mean its not like anyone got seriously injured (aside from some people's pride). macworld still happened. you still got your 17" mbp. steve is neither dead nor gay. the world moves on.
main site's back up
"Our MacRumorsLive keynote coverage was hacked today, inserting inappropriate content into the text and photo feeds. We apologize for the inconvenience and are working to restore our services. The hack appears to be limited to the MacRumorsLive servers so forum accounts should be safe.
We'll continue Macworld Expo coverage on an ongoing basis this week, and will report on Apple's announcements shortly."
"Our MacRumorsLive keynote coverage was hacked today, inserting inappropriate content into the text and photo feeds. We apologize for the inconvenience and are working to restore our services. The hack appears to be limited to the MacRumorsLive servers so forum accounts should be safe.
We'll continue Macworld Expo coverage on an ongoing basis this week, and will report on Apple's announcements shortly."
I can appreciate a little chaos...there are just some things that can't be unseen. *shivers*
Thanks anyway Arn, and to the rest of the MacRumors team. Sorry some one hacked your live feed.
I just got home from work. I'm now very disappointed that I have to use another site for coverage. Feels like I'm cheating on you all. For having to go some wear else
I just got home from work. I'm now very disappointed that I have to use another site for coverage. Feels like I'm cheating on you all. For having to go some wear else
Greetings.
I'll introduce myself, and become quite unpopular, as a 4chan user. I was browsing the infamous /b/ board when the hacking began.
There are a few facts you should know, before you want to wage a war against those who did that.
First, know that if a lot of 4chan people think it's funny, another lot think it's not. Quite unpolite answers, such as "Cancercancercanceretc..." or "You newfags suck" were posted in numbers. These boards are chaotic, and what was entertaining, for them, as one of you pointed it out, was chaos. /b/ is "Random". Chaos.
Second important point, i think, is that you will never pinpoint anyone, and you will never sue 4chan. Many websites tried, but they systematically failed. 4chan is entirely anonymous, when a thread is deleted, there is no trace of whoever posted. No IP, nothing. Therefore, nobody to sue. Another thing to know is that this hacking -which I didn't like, once more- involved dozens of people, from many countries. My e-mail address says .fr, but there were also .com .us .de .uk .whatever. You can't sue 200 people from 30 countries.
Third point, a lots of 4chan posts lately said that Windows users were fags, and that macintosh-based software was immune to viruses and hacking, blah blah blah, well, you know trolls. Well... Kids from an anonymous website destroyed your live feed. What does that mean, well, I don't like to be rude, but it means MR sucked at security. The mere fact that it was easy doesn't mean the "hackers" suck. It means the MR security sucked more.
I personnally hope it will be fixed, so this doesn't happen again.
Fourth thing, which is important too, a thread was run on /b/ but as someone said on this very thread, /b/ people couldn't even cook an egg, so, organize an attack... Unlikely.
To finish with, I recommend not to respond, flood the boards, or anything like that, which could be extremely nocive to your website. I saw people who were attacked deciding to run a "terrible counter-attack" and flood the 4chan boards. As a result, their websites became flooded and polluted by thousands of angry "people".
/b/ is a cancer, and we, people using it, are tumors. We know it, we live with it. We're immune to cancer. We don't care about flood. Once more, I do not threaten you, as I don't participate in "flood parties", but many people on 4chan will strike extremely hard and it could become a war you can't win. It's not an army, it's a chaotic, anarchic, groupe of weird beings, it's like sheeps. If a sheep does something, the others follow... And 10.000 sheeps can do a lot of damage, alas !
My personnal advice is to reinforce security (a lot) and forget this. The best way to deal with us is to forget us.
After, I can understand your angriness, but for this time, the best answer is not to attack.
Thanks for your attention. I hope this problem will be fixed soon.
Miss L for Love, because showing breasts can solve a lot of problems.
I'll introduce myself, and become quite unpopular, as a 4chan user. I was browsing the infamous /b/ board when the hacking began.
There are a few facts you should know, before you want to wage a war against those who did that.
First, know that if a lot of 4chan people think it's funny, another lot think it's not. Quite unpolite answers, such as "Cancercancercanceretc..." or "You newfags suck" were posted in numbers. These boards are chaotic, and what was entertaining, for them, as one of you pointed it out, was chaos. /b/ is "Random". Chaos.
Second important point, i think, is that you will never pinpoint anyone, and you will never sue 4chan. Many websites tried, but they systematically failed. 4chan is entirely anonymous, when a thread is deleted, there is no trace of whoever posted. No IP, nothing. Therefore, nobody to sue. Another thing to know is that this hacking -which I didn't like, once more- involved dozens of people, from many countries. My e-mail address says .fr, but there were also .com .us .de .uk .whatever. You can't sue 200 people from 30 countries.
Third point, a lots of 4chan posts lately said that Windows users were fags, and that macintosh-based software was immune to viruses and hacking, blah blah blah, well, you know trolls. Well... Kids from an anonymous website destroyed your live feed. What does that mean, well, I don't like to be rude, but it means MR sucked at security. The mere fact that it was easy doesn't mean the "hackers" suck. It means the MR security sucked more.
I personnally hope it will be fixed, so this doesn't happen again.
Fourth thing, which is important too, a thread was run on /b/ but as someone said on this very thread, /b/ people couldn't even cook an egg, so, organize an attack... Unlikely.
To finish with, I recommend not to respond, flood the boards, or anything like that, which could be extremely nocive to your website. I saw people who were attacked deciding to run a "terrible counter-attack" and flood the 4chan boards. As a result, their websites became flooded and polluted by thousands of angry "people".
/b/ is a cancer, and we, people using it, are tumors. We know it, we live with it. We're immune to cancer. We don't care about flood. Once more, I do not threaten you, as I don't participate in "flood parties", but many people on 4chan will strike extremely hard and it could become a war you can't win. It's not an army, it's a chaotic, anarchic, groupe of weird beings, it's like sheeps. If a sheep does something, the others follow... And 10.000 sheeps can do a lot of damage, alas !
My personnal advice is to reinforce security (a lot) and forget this. The best way to deal with us is to forget us.
After, I can understand your angriness, but for this time, the best answer is not to attack.
Thanks for your attention. I hope this problem will be fixed soon.
Miss L for Love, because showing breasts can solve a lot of problems.
I'm not quite sure I understand your sentence, sir. Of people that visited what ? If you mean "a particular thread", it's worthless, as all people visiting a thread don't participate in it and don't automatically approve what is said into this very thread. If you mean that visited a board, well, that's 6.000 IPs, I'm not quite sure you could get something out of it.
Once more, other websites tried, and 100% of them failed. You would waste time and possibly money, which could be used in better ways, such as buying your girlfriend some roses.
EDIT to Kenta : triforce threads are copypasta
Anyway, as I'm not an ambassador I'm not likely to answer all of your questions (the only official of 4chan is moot, and I'm not moot).
I thought that all websites kept huge logs of all visitors, so if I type 4chan.org and press enter that site would then have a record of my visit.
Note to admins: making the password file public is like shouting the passwords while posting them on dodgy sites yourself.
IP address doesn't tell you much. A smart hacker would probably go through a few anonymous proxy servers first in multiple countries so it's harder to track down. It would be like calling your friend who calls another friend who calls another friend, etc.
And hackers usually use some free wifi connection somewhere. Even if you had a reliable IP address, you need probable cause to obtain customer information. ISPs just don't hand that information out because someone hacked your site; you would need to lose a lot to make it worth your while to track down.
It's really a shame the hackers were so childish about the whole thing but bottom line here: secure your sites and keep them up to date! I noticed MR's servers here are running a version of Apache and PHP a couple versions behind as well. (Ideally that server signature shouldn't even be displayed to make it harder to figure out what you're running.)
I remember when MacRumors was not populated with n00bs. I think this was pre-iPhone, pre-Apple-Stores-on-every-corner, pre-Intel. Now, it's just different. This is a mass commodity.
My point is, most people here are just regular Joes now, for the most part. What regular Joes don't understand is that 4chan users think entirely different. Internet trolls were probably a new or vaguely familiar thing they've heard about to many.
To those people, I want to hug them and tell them that it's going to be okay, that no one thinks they're a fag, and no one wants Steve Jobs dead. I also want to tell them that there is life beyond a MacWorld liveblog.
I also completely hope that Arn, the whole MR team, and the MR community see that it would be imprudent, to say the least, to attempt to respond to 4chan. Don't counter-attack, don't try to sue, don't try to badmouth them. In fact, don't even talk about how much it sucked, how appalled you were, how disappointed you are, how it ruined all of 2009 and the last MacWorld keynote liveblog and you needed a whole towel to soak up your tears. It only gives them the attention and reaction that they desired when they did all of this.
Just ignore it, have a laugh (it's therapeutic! really!) and move on. Security holes become exploits become fixes. This is ONLY THE INTERNET.
My point is, most people here are just regular Joes now, for the most part. What regular Joes don't understand is that 4chan users think entirely different. Internet trolls were probably a new or vaguely familiar thing they've heard about to many.
To those people, I want to hug them and tell them that it's going to be okay, that no one thinks they're a fag, and no one wants Steve Jobs dead. I also want to tell them that there is life beyond a MacWorld liveblog.
I also completely hope that Arn, the whole MR team, and the MR community see that it would be imprudent, to say the least, to attempt to respond to 4chan. Don't counter-attack, don't try to sue, don't try to badmouth them. In fact, don't even talk about how much it sucked, how appalled you were, how disappointed you are, how it ruined all of 2009 and the last MacWorld keynote liveblog and you needed a whole towel to soak up your tears. It only gives them the attention and reaction that they desired when they did all of this.
Just ignore it, have a laugh (it's therapeutic! really!) and move on. Security holes become exploits become fixes. This is ONLY THE INTERNET.
>>Spinthis!
I'm afraid, sir, that most people didn't even do that. To what end ? If you could get all the live addresses of all the pirates, you'd have 300 different addresses from at least 20 different countries with different laws. Congratulations, now what ?
>>Wongulous
You perfectly understood the situation, which means I can leave in peace. Thank you kind sir.
I'm afraid, sir, that most people didn't even do that. To what end ? If you could get all the live addresses of all the pirates, you'd have 300 different addresses from at least 20 different countries with different laws. Congratulations, now what ?
>>Wongulous
You perfectly understood the situation, which means I can leave in peace. Thank you kind sir.
I agree. 4chan "/b/tards" have a huge thing about the Internet being a huge game, the objective being to screw it up and annoy as many people as they can in the process.
They are mostly script-kiddies though, someone got the password file and distributed the passwords publicly (that much is obvious) so the people who done the spamming are not the hackers at all.
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