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MacRumors Poll: iPhone 4 Signal Loss by Region
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Solution to signal problem!
I heard about the signal issue this morning. I have an iPhone 4 and have experienced this issue with bridging the two antennas in the bottom left hand corner of the device! This happens everytime the palm of your hand is covering the bottom left corner, except when anything, that is thick enough to block the electrical current in your hand, cover the corner! I would suggest a case fOr your iPhone 4's. I think apple should be giving out a free case for all buyers though!
I heard about the signal issue this morning. I have an iPhone 4 and have experienced this issue with bridging the two antennas in the bottom left hand corner of the device! This happens everytime the palm of your hand is covering the bottom left corner, except when anything, that is thick enough to block the electrical current in your hand, cover the corner! I would suggest a case fOr your iPhone 4's. I think apple should be giving out a free case for all buyers though!
Yes, all cell phones will exhibit some loss, but I have never owned a cell phone that the signal was cut 100% just by simply moving my finger over a certain spot. I mean, the signal is cut 100% as if their was a failure somewhere.
I've owned cell phone since 1993 when my service used to cost me $200 for 700 minutes and service was analog. My phone was as big as a brick back then and i rarely dropped calls.
Your post is the most rediculous one in this thread, insisting that we are all wrong. There are thousands of us with this issue.
hysteria continues
Ok... if you can repoduce this standing under a cell tower, then there is something wrong with the phone. Otherwise, since no one seems to be concerned with the vitally important variables, like the state of the tower or the number and kind objects between the phone and the tower, all reports are meaningless. Without reference, you can't make sense of it, and no valid conclusions can be made.
Maybe there is something wrong with the iPhone 4. However, all this "evidence" that people are reporting is not evidence at all.
It means nothing if your phone dropped a call
There is no way to tell if something is wrong using this kind of unreferenced, unsubstantiated, unverifiable evidence. This entire exercise is absurd.
Ok... if you can repoduce this standing under a cell tower, then there is something wrong with the phone. Otherwise, since no one seems to be concerned with the vitally important variables, like the state of the tower or the number and kind objects between the phone and the tower, all reports are meaningless. Without reference, you can't make sense of it, and no valid conclusions can be made.
Maybe there is something wrong with the iPhone 4. However, all this "evidence" that people are reporting is not evidence at all.
It means nothing if your phone dropped a call
There is no way to tell if something is wrong using this kind of unreferenced, unsubstantiated, unverifiable evidence. This entire exercise is absurd.
I have a MicroCell and can produce it standing right next to it. It's just as good as a tower. Cousin Steve admitted it was a problem without admitting it directly.
Dude,
Can people just understand that this problem does exist but people are only seeing it if their signal is already FLAKEY! That means your house has very good coverage, you should not see this. but if you have a building that has TONS AND TONS of reflection points and the signal fluctuates already, then this short of the 2 antennas will drop the gain to a point where it can't be turned back.
If you don't believe me, i'll do a test.
LOCATION DOES MATTER!!!!! stop doing the same test in the SAME LOCATION.
Can people just understand that this problem does exist but people are only seeing it if their signal is already FLAKEY! That means your house has very good coverage, you should not see this. but if you have a building that has TONS AND TONS of reflection points and the signal fluctuates already, then this short of the 2 antennas will drop the gain to a point where it can't be turned back.
If you don't believe me, i'll do a test.
LOCATION DOES MATTER!!!!! stop doing the same test in the SAME LOCATION.
Low-Res App Icons...
Not to hijack this thread... but getting tired of antenna talk. I'm more peeved that I have to look at all the low-res, third-party apps on my shiny new iPhone 4. I haven't even installed any apps yet, since I can't stand looking at fuzzy icons.
Not to hijack this thread... but getting tired of antenna talk. I'm more peeved that I have to look at all the low-res, third-party apps on my shiny new iPhone 4. I haven't even installed any apps yet, since I can't stand looking at fuzzy icons.
not so
OK, wow... just like that, scientific proof!!!
Look, chances are you just weren't paying attention to all your cell phones reception. If you can get it to drop a call standing under a tower by touching that spot, then yes, perhaps there is an issue. Otherwise, there is no way to tell because we don't actually know what the reception IS where the phone is. IT might be just on the edge of losing the call anyway, and when you touch that spot and reduce the receptoin a little more, the call drops. So What? You have bad cell, you lost your call... why is this the fault of the phone?
If you are sitting there with one phone in front of you, THEN YOU HAVE NO WAY TO DO SCIENCE and your observations ARE SCIENTIFICALLY MEANINGLESS. Memories of what previous phones have done are also suspect.
The only way to verify that something is defective with the iPhone 4 is to stand under a tower, with the optimum reception, with a reception state we know must be 100%, and then duplicate the dropped call by touching the death spot on the phone
Any other demonstration is absolutely meaningless.
OK, wow... just like that, scientific proof!!!
Look, chances are you just weren't paying attention to all your cell phones reception. If you can get it to drop a call standing under a tower by touching that spot, then yes, perhaps there is an issue. Otherwise, there is no way to tell because we don't actually know what the reception IS where the phone is. IT might be just on the edge of losing the call anyway, and when you touch that spot and reduce the receptoin a little more, the call drops. So What? You have bad cell, you lost your call... why is this the fault of the phone?
If you are sitting there with one phone in front of you, THEN YOU HAVE NO WAY TO DO SCIENCE and your observations ARE SCIENTIFICALLY MEANINGLESS. Memories of what previous phones have done are also suspect.
The only way to verify that something is defective with the iPhone 4 is to stand under a tower, with the optimum reception, with a reception state we know must be 100%, and then duplicate the dropped call by touching the death spot on the phone
Any other demonstration is absolutely meaningless.
When I am at home and have 5 bars, I do not lose signal strength. When I am at work and have 3-4 bars I lose signal strength to the point that I lose 3G and it shows searching. I would also lose signal with my 3GS, although at that time I didn't know it was because of how I held it.
No it isn't. I'll tell you what, let's revisit this when Canada get's the iPhone 4 and then we will see if it is the hardware or the network. The antennae may just exacerbate the issue with a connection.
If Canadians do not end up having this issue, then it is the network in the US and 02 in the UK with holding the phone a certain way just adding to the problem.
What are you talking about? The icons for the apps should be 512x512 and just scaled by the OS to the appropriate size. They were supposed to be that size long before iOS4.
Just like all of your posts in this thread are meaningless. You insist that all of us with this problem are imagining it. You really need to get out and get a life. SERIOUSLY.
Not an Issue!!
i am left-handed person and when I hold the phone, it does not happen. Also, when i put the phone to my ear, my cheek on my hand does not cover the antenna at all. It does cover it, when I have the phone in front of me. So, when I put the phone to my ear, I have the thumb on the left side center. I would like to know how many people experience drop calls not signal degradation. People are reproducing the story, but how has your normal day to day experience has been. I have been experiencing better zero drop calls!!
i am left-handed person and when I hold the phone, it does not happen. Also, when i put the phone to my ear, my cheek on my hand does not cover the antenna at all. It does cover it, when I have the phone in front of me. So, when I put the phone to my ear, I have the thumb on the left side center. I would like to know how many people experience drop calls not signal degradation. People are reproducing the story, but how has your normal day to day experience has been. I have been experiencing better zero drop calls!!
Right and holding it in the palm of my hand with my elbow sticking how will make me look so cool.
Look at any TV show or movie scene where you see someone holding an iPhone or other type of phone. They are never holding it with the palm against the lower edge of the phone.
I read the damn posts and I have no interest in kissing anyone's ass.
@yodaxl7: Thank you for that post. Nobody is going to hold their phone in the manner that the video demonstrates. It is an artificial situation for the majority of people. Yes, you can reproduce it by holding it that way while the phone in in front of you but when you are calling someone, you are not going be covering up the entire side like that. I'm fairly ambidextrous so I can hold my phone in either hand depending on what I'm doing at the time.
I was briefly able to replicate this issue but I had to really cover up those two small black bands and squeeze. With my case on, it does not happen at all.
For me, this is really a non issue. The phone is awesome and reception is much improved over my 3GS. If the design is part of the reason for this improved reception, then I'll just follow steve's advice and not hold it in a specific way. I mean, is anyone actually returning their phones because of this issue? I'm guessing probably not. All cell phones I have ever owned had weird quirks with regard to reception. Tbis is no different.
For me, this is really a non issue. The phone is awesome and reception is much improved over my 3GS. If the design is part of the reason for this improved reception, then I'll just follow steve's advice and not hold it in a specific way. I mean, is anyone actually returning their phones because of this issue? I'm guessing probably not. All cell phones I have ever owned had weird quirks with regard to reception. Tbis is no different.
Go back and watch the last season of 30 Rock where almost all the characters use iPhones.
Perhaps to some it means nothing but to the most normal people it actually does mean a lot.
If the phone is so awesome why does everyone covers it with something (case, bumper, etc.). Do you know of any other model on the market for which 90% (or so) of owners by a case? It must be really ugly
I can totally see that for people who aren't experiencing the 'shorting' and the iOS's poor ability to handle it. This is a bug I have no doubt they can fix... Generally the 4 does incredibly well with calls and if you are having the more gradual decline of signal strength that movement causes the new 'move to the least congested strong enough' tower seems to work great!!
All they need to fix is the shorting or the handling of a shorting problem and the 4 is a vast improvement over the 3GS. The knee jerk fanboys just need to relax and realize that admitting there is a problem doesn't mean the 4 isn't still a great phone!
Perhaps to some it means nothing but to the most normal people it actually does mean a lot.
If the phone is so awesome why does everyone covers it with something (case, bumper, etc.). Do you know of any other model on the market for which 90% (or so) of owners by a case? It must be really ugly
Exactly! A phones primary function is to make calls and when a phone fails to make calls simply in the way you hold it, it fails.
I was just in an AT&T store to drool over the new device and yes, it does drop when you hold it that way.
LOL, yeah right !!! Even Apple's own promo material has people holding the phone in way you claim most people don't.
http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/25/hey-apple-youre-holding-it-wrong/
And
http://news.cnet.com/8301-30677_3-20008919-244.html?part=rss&subj=news&tag=2547-1_3-0-20
It is a problem it should not just cut out 100% just because I want to hold it the way I want. All of about 6 people live under a flipen cell tower. I get it maby going down a bar or 2 not all. This a really big issue I bet apple of it and new people would complain but they had the response put a case on it. Im all for cases but after spending 300$ on a phone it should work use I pay for service I don't get because I want to hold the phone the right way. I think apple should of handled this better than just saying put a case on it. Also im left handed so it suckes even more so screw u guys im ending this post
Of course not, they don't have to buy the phone. I don't hold a phone like I'm a princess, I don't have doll hands. I grip the phone with it's center of gravity in the center of the grip and that puts the amply large meaty base of my left thumb right up next to the shorting gap.
This is a design flaw that escaped detection because Apple has a cell tower on their campus and the field phones were in cases. They can fix it by stopping the shorting via a non-conductive coating or giving away bumpers to those that want them and fixing the code so it can handle the rapidly dropping signal strength of a short.
But to say that people are holding the phone wrong?! It's their phone they can hold it any way they want and it still should work.