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That nifty 50 and your DSLR conspired to produce some terrible chromatic aberration. I would have discarded that shot (or at least tried to remove the CA in PP).
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Another example that should dissuade people from buying this lens. The bokeh is downright ugly in this shot (extremely busy), and makes the background the foreground.

If you want to diss the iPhone camera by showcasing DLSR shots then at least find some good ones.

Pfff. Haters gonna hate!
 
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How did he get his folders and dock like this??

Use this: http://heyeased.weebly.com/black-in-black.html

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Hate these threads because they're about people who derive a sense of status from their owning an expensive piece of kit. But it's a delicate sense of status that makes them so over-sensitive. Any advancement in technology that democratizes the features is a personal existential threat. Of course, you can't fix this tiresome effect without us collectively reforming how we think of social status and consumerism.
 
No - not most places. But I personally don't think I would use this effect on my phone given the results. I would rather shoot it normally and do my own blur effects when/if I wanted to. Did you see the odd borders on the images in the thread mentioned. Maybe when reduced down to a mobile screen they look perfect - but not full size/desktop size. Also I'm not really sure you can call the effect in the photos I've seen bokeh. They simply look DoF blur.

Here's an example of bokeh - it's not just about blur.

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Exactly.


Bokeh has been a Photoshop blur effect for years now. Trust me, give it 12months, it's coming...
 
There is no democratization. iPhone 7+ is one of the most expensive smartphones ever.

For the price of an iPhone 7+ you can get an entry level Canon or Nikon DSLR with kitt lens + 50/1.8 lens (this will give out of focus background easily!) and a mid range android device (that still takes decent everyday pictures).

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Hate these threads because they're about people who derive a sense of status from their owning an expensive piece of kit. But it's a delicate sense of status that makes them so over-sensitive. Any advancement in technology that democratizes the features is a personal existential threat. Of course, you can't fix this tiresome effect without us collectively reforming how we think of social status and consumerism.
 
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Hate these threads because they're about people who derive a sense of status from their owning an expensive piece of kit. But it's a delicate sense of status that makes them so over-sensitive. Any advancement in technology that democratizes the features is a personal existential threat. Of course, you can't fix this tiresome effect without us collectively reforming how we think of social status and consumerism.
Dynax 7xi + 28-85mm f/3.5-4.5: $38
 
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Hate these threads because they're about people who derive a sense of status from their owning an expensive piece of kit. But it's a delicate sense of status that makes them so over-sensitive. Any advancement in technology that democratizes the features is a personal existential threat. Of course, you can't fix this tiresome effect without us collectively reforming how we think of social status and consumerism.
I just see some talking about the gear (on topic) and some talking about other people (off-topic). I've always figured out myself as an enthusiast but I've just discovered that I'm a "DSLR snob". Sigh.
 
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A good mobile and a dslr and even a point and shoot compliment each other. A lot of us have more than one dslr body so we don't have to keep swapping lenses outside.. Everyone having as good a camera as the iPhone has as a baseline backup is going to be handy in all sorts of situations.

I see camera phones creeping quality a threat to most point and shoots but not fancier or niche cameras, DSLRs etc..

They have overhyped portrait mode a little bit yeah it's a hell of a good start.

Question for 7+ owners: Does it inherently bake the blur it into the photo though? It really should store the depth info so you can apply it at will.. (ideally with sliders for level of focus curve at different distances - why not?) or save with/without copies like it can with HDR photos. Given it's a destructive software process it shouldn't be doing it with your only take.. (?) - please say it doesn't do it to your only take. If it's flexible at least that gives it an advantage over SLR methods.. I mean it can take raw photos now.. save the distance data and let us tweak the result in Photos and you have a really versatile system that's unique and really cool.
 
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Can someone in the field comment on the term bokeh ? It seems like the news sites use the terms "bokeh" and "depth of field / blurred background" interchangeably. Aren't the bokehs supposed to have some polygonal shape or something ?
 
They look fantastic. Such a shame it's only on the Plus model. It would have been a real game changer had they been able to stuff that tech into the 7. Maybe next year... (and pencil support too please, ta)
 
Hate these threads because they're about people who derive a sense of status from their owning an expensive piece of kit. But it's a delicate sense of status that makes them so over-sensitive. Any advancement in technology that democratizes the features is a personal existential threat. Of course, you can't fix this tiresome effect without us collectively reforming how we think of social status and consumerism.

Interesting and thoughtful response. I recently went on a camping holiday with 2008-era Fuji Finepix 8 Megapixel camera and took some amazing shots. One of my favourite shots was taken a few years ago with the iPhone 4S (lots of light, great composition, looks really good in a large size). I recently bought an Olympus E-M10 which is a great performing (and great looking!) camera. And yet... even though I am really happy with what I have (and my current iPhone 6S) I do feel a sense of being left behind, with the new iPhone 7+. You're right, it is how we are made to feel. If what you have works, then great. If you get decent bokeh with your phone, great. Personally I enjoy figuring out all the crazy menus on a camera (and they are aways crazy) but most people will want an interesting effect that they can generate easily. It will possibly get better than a DLSR, but I like the handling and heft of an actual camera, and I like tech that I can have for a long time. Phones date faster than cameras, IMO.
 
Can someone in the field comment on the term bokeh ? It seems like the news sites use the terms "bokeh" and "depth of field / blurred background" interchangeably. Aren't the bokehs supposed to have some polygonal shape or something ?

Bokeh is supposed to be shaped like the aperture, ideally. That means whether or not the aperture blades are rounded, its going to be circular and if they're not (old or specific lenses), they're going to have polygonal shape with the number of sides mirroring number of aperture blades. It's most apparent on intense lightning spots.
 
Whilst this is an interesting effect, I can't help but feel it's going to get Real old Real fast.

Like editing a photo of a Red London Bus, or Red old English phone box on a otherwise Black and While image.

It was amazing the 1st time, cool for a while, but then just so overdone as to be embarrassing almost now.
 
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The iPhone 7 camera is indeed impressive, but I wouldn't call these photos beautiful. It's not because you have a blurry background that a photo is even close to be a good one. Same applies to people with 5000 usd cameras.
Now excuse me as I'm just going to puke a bit, now that photography as an art is dead.

It's hardly dead. It's alive and kicking. You just can't assume that everyone who owns a camera, whether a phone cam or dSLR, want's to create a compelling "artistic" photograph. Phone cam or dSLR, they're all good and have the capacity of making photos that stir a viewer's imagination. Still, most people just want to document their lives and family. Nothing wrong with that.

Fortunately, with a phone cam, anyone can make an expressive photo anytime they feel inclined and motivated.
 

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Whilst this is an interesting effect, I can't help but feel it's going to get Real old Real fast.

Like editing a photo of a Red London Bus, or Red old English phone box on a otherwise Black and While image.

It was amazing the 1st time, cool for a while, but then just so overdone as to be embarrassing almost now.
I dunno.. When it's used on a real/traditional camera that does DOF(+bokeh) in this way it doesn't look like an effect.. It just looks like an out of focus background (which we're all used to seeing in film etc) - Apple's digital version is sometimes good enough but otherwise is in a weird blur equivalent of CG's uncanny valley where it clearly looks like a digital filter. That *will* get old if Apple don't fix it..

If you go over to flickr or 500px this sort of blurry background shot has always been a staple of photography, especially in portrait and macro (where it's pretty much a necessity) .. Nobody's going to get bored/embarrased of it if it's done accurately IMO..
 
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There is no democratization. iPhone 7+ is one of the most expensive smartphones ever.

For the price of an iPhone 7+ you can get an entry level Canon or Nikon DSLR with kitt lens + 50/1.8 lens (this will give out of focus background easily!) and a mid range android device (that still takes decent everyday pictures).

Christian

Can the Nikon make phone calls? :)
 
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Here's one I took of my buddy's dog last weekend.
 

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I like having a 50mm lenses. Very useful thing. So glad to have it on my new 7.

But calling the 50mm lens "telephoto" or this silly half-ass artificial effect, ... It's just kinda embarrassing for Apple.

Uhhhhh..... didn't think this one through did you? Telephoto is *any lens* that's longer than your "normal" lens. This lens is double the length of the normal lens.

When trying to be pedantic about something, at least succeed.
 
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Do you mean non-Plus iPhones? Don't hold your breath for that, bucko. iOS' depth of field can only be simulated while utilizing two lenses.

Right.... and I am 100% positive that this will make it to the "non-plus" models within the next 2-3 years max. Wouldn't be the least bit surprised to see it next year. OIS wasn't able to be accomplished in the 6 and 6S but is in the 7. I'm sure the second lense and software will make it to the smaller phone very soon.
 
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