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Shot this on a moto X gen I back in early 2014.
 

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I just want to but in that this isn't really the camera itself doing this.

This is software blur layer being done as post processing. Similar in effect to photoshop vs natural data from the sensor.

I was expecting to see far more accuracy out of the iPhone 7 implementation because of the "depth matching"

But so far I am not seeing the accuracy I expected. I'm seeing similar results to the existing software blur post processing that's been available on a few phones already.

The camera takes some great shots, but so far the imitation blur and bokeh is a let down and looks as unnatural to me as androids previous implementation

Some look pretty good with blur graduated by distance. Some don't. Those that don't I think is due to not having enough background depth for the effect to not look planar. It will improve with time. Especially when Apple's LinX acquisition tech is fully employed (it's not now).

For me, I'd like the ability control the amount of graduated blur. And, to select the subject, which may not be in the foreground. Supposedly foreground (in front of the subject) blur occurs, but I haven't seen realistic representations yet. I'd like to be able to smudge my thumb over the subject area (like the woman in the photo below) and adjust the amount of blur. More is not necessarily better - starts looking fake...

All of this will come.
 

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Some look pretty good with blur graduated by distance. Some don't. Those that don't I think is due to not having enough background depth for the effect to not look planar. It will improve with time. Especially when Apple's LinX acquisition tech is fully employed (it's not now).

For me, I'd like the ability control the amount of graduated blur. And, to select the subject, which may not be in the foreground. Supposedly foreground (in front of the subject) blur occurs, but I haven't seen realistic representations yet. I'd like to be able to smudge my thumb over the subject area (like the woman in the photo below) and adjust the amount of blur. More is not necessarily better - starts looking fake...

All of this will come.
Might be a great use of 3D Touch
 
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I think I get what all these negative comments are trying to say..... If the iPhone can't be a DSLR, then Apple should just not even try. They should stop making improvements to the camera altogether. Someone write Tim and let him know to cancel all further camera development because as it turns out...this is just a phone and not a DSLR.
 
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Total waste of time. Would be so much better to put the second lens on the other end of the phone to shoot 3D.
 
Depends what you are shooting? I love shooting 3D portraits with my Samsung NX500 and would also love to shoot 3D property tour videos.
 
Total waste of time. Would be so much better to put the second lens on the other end of the phone to shoot 3D.

And then what do you do with the 3D image files? 3D glasses for viewing on a screen or print? Seems like that would quickly get old.

I like what they have now. Two different focal lengths to choose from, and a graduated DOF simulation mode (which will get better with time).
 
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VR headset is the main opportunity going forward but 3DTV is what I use now. Hasn't got old yet.
 
I know of one major newspaper that was going to replace photographers with journalists with iPhones.

But I'm not talking about that, but about people who just don't pay attention to proper cameras anymore and use phones the whole time.

You people need to pull you're head out and stop talking as if "proper cameras" used to take perfect pictures since the beginning of time.

The iPhone 7 takes fantastic photos whether you people like it or not.
 
for me, it was just a fad. it wasn't as practical as having 2 lenses of different focal lengths with you. you wouldn't even be able to enjoy it on your phone unless you had the screen to support it. even then the experience isn't that great - the phone would have to be at just the right viewing angle and distance. and if this were only to be available on the Plus, then that leaves 7 users (including everyone else) out in the dark.
 
The Nintendo 3DS is very robust in terms of viewing position but the screen is too low-res. Sony is about to release its latest headset which I believe will do for 3D what PlayStation has done for optical media. And Apple also seems to be working on 3D too.
 
I agree, these shots are excellent for an iPhone,...and that's what we should be judging by... ...am I impressed by these sample images from average users? Very much so...not because they are well framed, or not because they provide perfect professional style portrait shots, but because they are coming from the phone in my pocket...because with time, with the right light, we now can get the types of pictures we always felt we needed a big DSLR for...my photo library of my family is about 30,000 strong...I would say about 10% came from a DSLR...so if the 90% could start to get better from generation to generation of mobile phone,...then that makes me happy...
Yes, very much this. With the story of the iPhone 7 camera review this morning, I went and looked at the scores for the previous iPhones, and they've gone from 50 for the iPhone 4 (on the review site's scale) up to 86 now. The decent camera in your pocket is better than the DSLR that's sitting at home, because it's actually with you, and you can take lots of pictures with it at a moment's notice, and I'm thrilled to see the progress that Apple has made with the camera in a phone over these last few years.
 
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Bokeh is not just the blur but the blooming lights and bright spots get.

This is incorrect, it's about the out of focus area of the picture that is blurred. Different cameras create a different visual bokeh, while some cameras and lens produces that blooming effect bokeh, others don't.
 
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This obviously is going to make this a must have item this holiday season.

The camera is THE item people look for and use statistically in phones. Apple did the SMART thing here putting it into its higher priced product that will likely drive their ASP's up quite nicely. Those of you "experts" don't see the "logic" behind this feature.


It's called strategy - simply put. And it's brilliant to buy themselves a year for the fully retooled iPhones.
 
This is definitely a step in the right direction as far as cell phone photography goes.
...But it's really weird that it's just a gaussian blur. You'd think Apple could figure out a way to fake bokeh, right?
 
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Im not going to sort through people's crappy pictures on the internet. I'll just take your word for it. It's in beta and it's all done via software so don't get your panties in a wad just yet

It's a combination of hardware and software, very impressive actually.
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How is everyone actually calling it Bokeh? Did Apple every used the word Bokeh for this feature? I think it is just something for Portrait photos and just creates a depth of field effect. How come we call it Bokeh?
I am not a pro photographer, but I connect Bokeh to something different of an effect these photos have.

Then you don't know the meaning of the word, stop trying to change what the word means.
 
I keep trying to like this feature but it just doesn't look right. I'm sure they'll get the implementation down eventually...

I'm used to shooting stuff with long telephotos that totally nuke the background (and foreground for that matter). I wonder if they'll allow for some control over the blur?

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It is still exciting to see this kind of technology in phones. Imagine all the cool things we'll be able to do with it in a few years!
 
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There's plenty of people that think they don't need a camera because they have a phone.

What's your point exactly?

1) For the vast majority of people, phone cameras provide perfectly good quality. Why do you presume to say they "need" something better? And do you likewise ridicule people with dedicated cameras that are "just" point-and-shoot, and not DSLR?

2) Even people with the absolute best camera still use phone cameras from time to time. The best camera is the one you have with you, as the saying goes. Almost no-one can carry a DSLR with them 24/7. So you think its stupid for even those people with pro cameras to like seeing improvement in phone camera quality?

3) You probably have many photos that were not taken by yourself. That were taken by family or friends. I suppose that you don't care that if these people don't own and carry expensive DSLR cameras, the cameras they DO carry with them, their phone, take better photos?
 
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The cloud and edge of the building is really really buggy in the first photograph.

It's good for a phone. But if you use a high-end DSLR and Lens, it's hard to not notice the flaws (they're everywhere...).

What a revelation: a single purpose device with 20 times more mass takes better photos than a device that fits in your pocket and does thousands of different tasks.

It's not just good for a phone. It's good. You picked one of the photos that had bad artifacts. Bravo. It's still in beta. But the shot of the kid in the pool is great, as are many of the others I've seen. The way this will up the ante for day to day photography can't be overstated. Can't wait to see the new Shot on iPhone ads.
 
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Depth of field? My god, welcome to 1884.... :D

Seriously, this is why people still need real cameras with manual controls. That's nice that a phone can act like a camera in a pinch, but there are nice pocket sized digital cameras that have so much more control and without having to fiddle with touch-screens (real dials are so much nicer for making quick setting changes, even while looking through the lens).

Great, and in a forum devoted to CAMERAS or PHOTOGRAPHY, they can compare and contrast CAMERAS. Meanwhile, here in a forum devoted to PHONES, well...
 
You people need to pull you're head out and stop talking as if "proper cameras" used to take perfect pictures since the beginning of time.

The iPhone 7 takes fantastic photos whether you people like it or not.
Where's the optical zoom? This is the first thing consumers would look at in a point and shoot.

[Mostly the wrong way, focusing at the long end without paying attention to wide angle or aperture.]
 
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