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There is no doubt that Windows IT admins are scared ******** about the prospect of Macs taking over and Mac admins taking over their jobs. They are scared beyond belief and are flooding message boards like Macrumors with FUD.:mad::mad:
 
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There is no doubt that Windows IT admins are scared ******** about the prospect of Macs taking over and Mac admins taking over their jobs. They are scared beyond belief and are flooding message boards like Macrumors with FUD.:mad::mad:
I'm a Windows IT admin who is not scared at all, so... whoops on that statement. It doesn't take a genius to run both Windows and OSX, either.
 
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Getting all your mouthbreathing friends together in your basement to make full print t-shirts of dragons howling at the moon (the graphics were, like, completely done on an iMac) while hosting your "totally professional" website on a couple of Mac Minis isn't really a business.

"But dude, we totally have clients! The guys down at the Dwarves Doom bought...like...6 of our Wolf Babe t-shirts just the other day".

I actually sort of LOLed at this.

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There is no doubt that Windows IT admins are scared ******** about the prospect of Macs taking over and Mac admins taking over their jobs. They are scared beyond belief and are flooding message boards like Macrumors with FUD.:mad::mad:

In my experience they are just too busy to even care. The whole "Mac vs. PC" thing is so 1995 that I really can't believe that people still talk about it.

Sure people have different industries they work in and what not, but when it comes down to using BIM (Revvit), AutoCAD and Office (mainly Excel) there's really no choice but to use a PC. On top of that there's nothing that even comes close to Outlook on the Enterprise scale, in fact, I think Outlook is quite amazing the way it integrates amongst a Windows network. Apple has nothing that is even in the realm of comparison.

Look, I love my iMac and all other things Apple. I have for nearly 20 years, but I also have seen the light in the business world when it comes down to getting ***** done. At the end of the day, I don't care what the hardware/software package is. Just make it effective and reliable. And if you have half a brain then you are able to make a PC do this. Windows 7 is actually pretty nice.
 
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Sure people have different industries they work in and what not, but when it comes down to using BIM (Revvit), AutoCAD

There many other CAD and BIM packages than AutoDesks product many on the Mac. AutoCAD is just really common but has never been considered that good. Which is why they needed to buy Revit and keep shifting the goal post of what BIM is or isn't to keep there industry Lock.
 
There is no doubt that Windows IT admins are scared ******** about the prospect of Macs taking over and Mac admins taking over their jobs. They are scared beyond belief and are flooding message boards like Macrumors with FUD.:mad::mad:

Are you on drugs?
 
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But what you are doing here at Mac Rumors is beyond me.

This! Really...
It's pathetically funny to see the anti-Apple crowd reacting to, uhm..., reality.
Apple is increasingly making inroads into enterprise (without really trying to) and then they are all like "What? No! That's impossible. That's all lies! Macs don't work anyway!"
And then this important piece of news turned into a troll-fest.
 
Prove to me kernel panics rarely happen on Mac OSX. You could base your claim on personal experience, and I could turn around and say it's anecdotal. Just because you don't see kernel panics all that often doesn't mean they don't happen all the time to, say, some guy over in Milwaukee. Then you'll reply back with something else, and I'll respond in turn, and in the end, nothing will have been proven other than the fact we like to argue.

That's why I started by saying that anything I could say would be anecdotes, and that's why I asked for what kind of proof would be good.

So better ask that to the one who asked "Proof?", not to me.

The simple fact is that Windows is only as stable as the hardware you put it on.

Somehow, with Windows I always seem to have bad luck then.

If you slap 7 on a nice, expensive, well built machine, and use WHQL certified drivers, you won't see any blue screens.

Interesting. I thought that one advantage of Windows was that you could slap together a cheap computer...
 
This is all good progress, but where are the big compute power upgrades from Apple? We need new Apple workstations and servers, or a partnership with a company that specializes in this market. Apple has so much money, it could probably just drive up the highway and buy that whole server company in Fremont.
 
The non-existence of BSODs ? ;) How am I wrong when we're saying the same thing.

You didn't read maybe? Or didn't understand? OK, never mind, I get it, you're just scurrying away.


Oh wow, so it exists! What a pity it isn't applied, a lot of crap would be quickly cut short.

I won't wait for the apology, because frankly I don't expect it from you.

Huh, you expected one? Why? I asked and you answered; does that need apologies for you?
But don't worry, here you have one anyway. They're cheap and I am generous:

I am so sorry.

There. Feeling better?

Like usual, you just didn't accept the evidence and citations I gave. Like you probably won't again this time. There's a difference between me not providing sources, and you just outright dismissing them because they prove you wrong.

Which evidence and citations did you provide here?

And here you also seemed to accept that you were just dumping figments of your imagination, as a way of negating the need of any source or reasoning.

Mhm, I wonder if I should expect an apology? Nah, I won't.
 
You didn't read maybe? Or didn't understand? OK, never mind, I get it, you're just scurrying away.

I read and understood. You can't prove a negative, you wanted to add a precision that it's only non-existance. Negative, non-existance, you were asking AidenShaw to provide evidence for a claim he did not make nor did he have the burden to prove, about the non-existance of something, or the negative to "Windows is full of BSODs!".

I quite understood where you're coming from, you were just being aggressive towards Aiden and got called on it. In fact...

Huh, you expected one? Why? I asked and you answered; does that need apologies for you?
But don't worry, here you have one anyway. They're cheap and I am generous:

I am so sorry.

There. Feeling better?

No, I still don't like your aggressive responses. You didn't "ask", you basically assumed I made stuff up and even went so far as to claim I wouldn't provide any sources.

Tone it down a bit.

Which evidence and citations did you provide here?

We were in agreement, what sources were you requesting ? Again, the story was about a patent acquisition which happened to come with a corporate entity...

And here you also seemed to accept that you were just dumping figments of your imagination, as a way of negating the need of any source or reasoning.

Opinions and speculation do not require sources. Only facts do.

You really do seem to have some anger towards me and others. Might I suggest ignoring my post if they bring you so much grief ? Why even read the forums and participate if all you're going to do is rage over the posts of others ?

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This! Really...
It's pathetically funny to see the anti-Apple crowd reacting to, uhm..., reality.

What anti-apple crowd ? Why do we have to again paint this as a "Us vs them". All I see here is some Apple enthusiasts that don't quite understand IT, and some Apple enthusiastic folk in IT explaining to them why Apple isn't quite making in-roads, but what methods/technologies could help adoptation in the future for Macs ("bring your own", virtualization of the desktop, thinclient computing).
 
the point is that Apple IS making in-roads.

...and the point that everyone with a shred of knowledge about corporate IT is trying to get across is that for Apple there's nowhere to go but up given their miniscule slice of the enterprise market. As I said earlier, they're still just a footnote... and until they change some major aspects of their business model that are a major factor in their success in the consumer market they're going to remain so.
 
the point is that Apple IS making in-roads.

I wouldn't call it that yet. Apple has always been in the enterprise in some fashion, adding in the iToys doesn't change that. Apple still isn't making in-roads, they're just maintaining their low presence.

But iOS is showing promise OS X hasn't in a long time in this fashion. Apple are providing the tools and features required by enterprises. They aren't level with RIM's BB platform yet, but I bet they will eventually get there.

Also, they are getting some help from the eventual "consumerasation of IT", the "bring your own" trend we're saying pick up pace now, the one where IT gives you cloud services for your work load and lets you take care of your client hardware yourself.
 
I read and understood. You can't prove a negative, you wanted to add a precision that it's only non-existance.

No, it goes further than that, before you jumped in with the unimportant, boring and wrong tangent of provability.

Negative, non-existance, you were asking AidenShaw to provide evidence for a claim he did not make nor did he have the burden to prove, about the non-existance of something, or the negative to "Windows is full of BSODs!".

He asked for proof of a claim he did not make... but immediately afterwards he claimed the counterclaim.
So yeah, if he asked for a proof, he can be asked for the counter-proof.
And if you paid attention, maybe you'd see I began by asking him which kind of proof he would like. And that it was a serious question, because it could have been interesting.

So maybe the question is why would you need to jump in the middle, uncalled, and sprout all kind of tangential non-issues, when it was a simple question - which still hasn't been answered, and looks like it won't.

I quite understood where you're coming from, you were just being aggressive towards Aiden and got called on it. In fact...

That's one of your patterns: seeing animosities in questions.

No, I still don't like your aggressive responses. You didn't "ask", you basically assumed I made stuff up and even went so far as to claim I wouldn't provide any sources.

And you still didn't. Or did I miss anything?

We were in agreement, what sources were you requesting ? Again, the story was about a patent acquisition which happened to come with a corporate entity...

There we spin again! Why do you spin it from the patents angle? Why not "a corporate entity acquisition which happened to come with patents"? (I know, you won't explain, because you already didn't)

And about the "agreement", that's another of your patterns: acting as if someone is agreeing with you. I started my answer with "Where did you get the idea that I agree with you?". What part of it you did you fail to understand?

That's why you are forcing me to get more and more emphatical. So let me try again: Me agreeing with you? There has been no such occasion yet.

Opinions and speculation do not require sources. Only facts do.

And spin is just so much easier when there are no explanations, isn't it?

You really do seem to have some anger towards me and others. Might I suggest ignoring my post if they bring you so much grief ?
You may.

Why even read the forums and participate if all you're going to do is rage over the posts of others ?

Because, once uninteresting people is fended off, there are gems to be found.

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...and the point that everyone with a shred of knowledge about corporate IT is trying to get across is that for Apple there's nowhere to go but up given their miniscule slice of the enterprise market.

RIM begs to differ. (you know, about minuscule slice and "nowhere to go but up") ;)
 
And you still didn't. Or did I miss anything.

Wait, you're now claiming I didn't provide proof of Macrumors' rule about citing sources when asked for them ? :rolleyes:

That quote you made was in the context of that claim, your "asking for proof" and my providing of it. Something you even acknowledged and now ... suddenly you don't ?

Whatever man, ignored. I don't need to waste time on your passive aggressiveness and you're constant ignoring of presented evidence, and twisting of conversations.
 
I would love your insight on SMB (or the removal of) on 10.7, and your processing in correcting finder shared folder issues/hangs/ and bugs on a Win network.

Input appreciated...
SMB on OS X and Finder's network path traversal anomalies grew old for me years ago. You cannot be expected to hope Apple will "fix" it in the next version.
 
There is no doubt that Windows IT admins are scared ******** about the prospect of Macs taking over and Mac admins taking over their jobs. They are scared beyond belief and are flooding message boards like Macrumors with FUD.:mad::mad:

Exactly. Why else would Windows folks come to a site like Mac Rumors and pathetically try to convince us of why Windows is better (like Steve said, "third-rate"). None of us Mac users would ever waste our time on Windows forums.


Somehow, with Windows I always seem to have bad luck then.


That's the excuse the Windows folks gave me on another thread after I stated how much more money I have spent on Windows PC's over the years than Macs yet my Macs work better.

I guess the former Fortune 100 Microsoft shop I was employed as a .NET developer had bad luck too. I had friends in the Help Desk department that were always busy fixing end users issues. Yep, that company had lots of bad luck and they spent millions on MS software and HP, Dell, Compaq hardware. :rolleyes:

I would love your insight on SMB (or the removal of) on 10.7, and your processing in correcting finder shared folder issues/hangs/ and bugs on a Win network.

Input appreciated...

LOL! A few years ago when I was still dealing with Windows, a client of mine was using a MS Access application for their business that had at most 7 users accessing the DB. It was always freezing and requiring a reboot. Per a fellow consultant's suggestion I put the Access DB on a SMB share on a Linux box and no more freezing. That was my intro to Linux and I never looked back. I still use Linux servers but have moved on to the greener pastures of OSX. :apple:
 
Wait, you're now claiming I didn't provide proof of Macrumors' rule about citing sources when asked for them ? :rolleyes:

In case you are honestly confusing the question...
You provided that, which only was one of the useless tangents you yourself started; you didn't provide anything else about the discussions themselves.

That quote you made was in the context of that claim, your "asking for proof" and my providing of it. Something you even acknowledged and now ... suddenly you don't ?

Again, just in case you are honestly confusing the question...
what you didn't provide are any sources or reasonings here nor here (do I really need to keep linking? doesn't look like it helps you remember anyway)

Whatever man, ignored. I don't need to waste time on your passive aggressiveness and you're constant ignoring of presented evidence, and twisting of conversations.

And so, dear children, we bypass the thorny questions and avoid having to explain anything.

Good job!
 
SMB on OS X and Finder's network path traversal anomalies grew old for me years ago. You cannot be expected to hope Apple will "fix" it in the next version.

Well I can expect an OSX machine to talk to a windows network properly, unless it is Apple's way to completely exist independently of any MS user base. As the tread does imply Corporate Desks w/ macs, I find it hard to believe that the elimination of shared folders on a windows network are being axed.

Works great with SL, but dog slow with Lion. So I ask if this is apples intention of leaving all OSX clients to no longer co-exist in a windows environment? If this is so, it makes no sense to me; as I am forced to use it (windows) in work as the backbone platform, which many others do as well.
 
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