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Macs to Get AI-Focused M4 Chips Starting in Late 2024
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HobeSoundDarryl
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As long as AI doesn’t need internet access. Some of us are off grid.
This is "another record quarter..." Apple Inc. Not only will it need internet access but probably a services subscription to utilize the all-new virtual A.I. RAM in the hybrid iCloud.
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So Apple stock is up almost 4% today because some sell side analyst said Apple’s ‘AI iPhones’ could see a 5G like upgrade cycle. I think the hype here is getting ridiculous. If WWDC is supposed to be all about AI can they really announce stuff that will only be applicable to hardware coming out in the fall? And if these AI features are not only for new hardware how does that impact the upgrade cycle?
HobeSoundDarryl
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Because you need a new Mac now.
About 6-8 months into M4, pose the same question about M4. Then about 6-8 months after the M5 launch, pose the same question about M5. There's always a M++ new Mac coming.
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Yeah, I don’t get why the lowest performing devices always get the newest/highest performing CPU’s first. It’s counterintuitive.
It initially made sense to test out the first M1 on an entry level Guinea pig but we’re far past that at this point. If Apple would at least manage to release all updates to all machines within a shorter timeframe. Almost a year apart is too long.
The M4 won't be coming in a few months. Also the AI rumors authored by Gurman are becoming increasing unrealistic to what Apple is likely to implement. The M3 is worth selecting over the M2 if you value a minor uptick in performance and GPU based ray tracing/mesh shading, and AV1 hardware decoding.
I hope the new mice and keyboards will get finally you USB C connectors
Oh Gurman/Bloomberg, never change.
If there’s any credibility to this rumor, it’s being misinterpreted by the technically illiterate I mentioned above.
What they’re likely hearing is that Apple has yet again bumped up the specs of its NPU (ANE? Acronyms always mess me up). That means it *more capable* for AI, not that the focal point of the design is AI workloads.
Apple already dramatically improved AI capabilities by supporting the new integer operations in M2…where was Bloomberg reporting that M2 was “AI focused”? 🙄
Big publication companies tech reporting is basically useless. You’ve got glorified supply chain analysis being misreported to the public because these “journalists” don’t actually understand the tech itself.
Friendly reminder that Bloomberg still hasn’t retracted their thoroughly debunked reporting that Apple and many other cloud providers had “secret Chinese spying chips” in their servers. That story should have been the moment *anyone* stopped relying on Bloomberg for technical understanding of anything…
If there’s any credibility to this rumor, it’s being misinterpreted by the technically illiterate I mentioned above.
What they’re likely hearing is that Apple has yet again bumped up the specs of its NPU (ANE? Acronyms always mess me up). That means it *more capable* for AI, not that the focal point of the design is AI workloads.
Apple already dramatically improved AI capabilities by supporting the new integer operations in M2…where was Bloomberg reporting that M2 was “AI focused”? 🙄
Big publication companies tech reporting is basically useless. You’ve got glorified supply chain analysis being misreported to the public because these “journalists” don’t actually understand the tech itself.
Friendly reminder that Bloomberg still hasn’t retracted their thoroughly debunked reporting that Apple and many other cloud providers had “secret Chinese spying chips” in their servers. That story should have been the moment *anyone* stopped relying on Bloomberg for technical understanding of anything…
Too bad AI is still a meaningless buzzword. LLMs are just a very fast way of synthesizing information, but it isn't actually "thinking" and there's no way to verify that it hasn't been misled. GIGO still applies, there's no way going through more information faster does anything to figure out what's correct information and what's still garbage.
I really hope they make a chip that's higher than the Ultra for the Mac Pro. Just connect 2 Ultra chips together or something.
Not really helping M1/M2/M3 sales with news like this
We know how Apple rolls
Non M4s will get left behind on key features …. And sooner than folks think
We know how Apple rolls
Non M4s will get left behind on key features …. And sooner than folks think
Your point? Less than 1% of people who post on these forums need 128GB much less 512GB. The other 99% make up the 8GB-96GB user base. My M2 13” MBP has 24GB of DRAM and my 2019 iMac has 64GB and I sure don’t feel as though I’m being deprived. Heck, my 8GB M1 13” MBP still works fine 90% of the time, almost to the point that I wonder why I bought the 24GB M2 other than it was $800 off at Best Buy and I love a great deal.
the iMac had the same look for like a decade🤷♂️ what can they even change anymore ?
The average consumer does not care one bit about an M4 being the pipeline and doesn’t visit this site ever. We are the outliers.
Glorified applied statistics with no contextual understanding isn’t as flashy as “AI” for branding.
I can’t wait for the AI bubble to burst, and I was actually proud of Apple last WWDC for sticking to the correct term of Machine Learning where the rest of the industry just rebranded it to “AI”. I’m dismayed that they’ve apparently decided to join in on the horrible misuse of terms now…
right? this stuff makes people like me not want to invest in high end machines... especially when apples high end desktops always come out at the end of a chips lifecycle
compelling for what? What is all of this speed for? I guess the porn will download faster
don't use the word "invest" so loosely. You're not investing. you're spending.
the only time you're investing in a macbook is if you're buying these machines as tools for work to make money. In which case, you probably would buy the best one you can right now, as between now and the end of the year, you have work to do.
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I think it’s fine. as much as I like Jony Ive’s design, performance for these machines is more important and the 16” MBP form factor w/M1 Max is the best laptop I’ve ever owned.
They have to be willing to spend on the right people. They haven't done that for a long time.
Apple will do anything to bump stock price. The hot topic now is AI so they dropped an AI headline and it worked!
After using a mid-2012 quad-core i7 MacBook Pro, the M1 is much faster. It's going to take a while to really show me something amazing.
M3 Ultra will come soon, probably at WWDC. M4 Ultra/Max will never come before M4. The former do not have the volume to reap the economies of scale benefits.