Am still waiting for a Mac Mini or Studio upgrade. I guess I will be holding onto my Intel iMac a little while longer. Or get a used M1 Studio.
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Macs to Get AI-Focused M4 Chips Starting in Late 2024
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Man you woulda been pissed back in the early 2000s when Apple was updating its PowerBooks every 9 months.
Then what is the point to buy an ipad pro oled this year with my hard earn money if the M3 chip doesn'tr have AI and next year they are gonna release new ipads??
Same for iphone.
Same for iphone.
Well, I would disagree with that. The leading edge LLMs (such as GPT 4 or Gemini Ultra) make fewer and fewer mistakes. It still happens so you have to "fact check" the results (but then that is true with Google search results too), but they are nontheless very useful in an assistant role. I currently use GPT 4 to research complex technical issues and even write code, and it saves enormous amounts of time. It's much faster to have a dialog with the LLM than going through mountains of (often irrelevant or fals) search results.
Me getting ready to spend $150,000 on a full spec'd Mac Pro just for fun with
- M4 Ultra
- 60 Core CPU
- 120-Core GPU
- 64 Core Neural Engine
- 512GB of RAM
- 16TB SSD
- M4 Ultra
- 60 Core CPU
- 120-Core GPU
- 64 Core Neural Engine
- 512GB of RAM
- 16TB SSD
That is the malarkey of this Gurman rumor. The various x86 computers out there utilize AI to some degree with Windows 11 and without neural processing.
It's not like a future M4 is going to be able to run new AI capacities compared to the M1, M2, M3 neural processors.
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This is making me wonder if I should wait on a new iPad Pro purchase. Especially if the M3 models are very expensive. If there is an M4 update soon after and the new chip enables some AI magic I wouldn't have access to, I'd be kicking myself.
IMHO the OS matters a lot more than hardware. Judge what is offered after you see it in action at WWDC 2024, not by hype.
Of course I’m buying a Mac Studio to work and make money…it serves no other purpowe these days…
That is the malarkey of this Gurman rumor. The various x86 computers out there utilize AI to some degree, it's not like a future M4 is going to be able too run new AI capacities compared to the M1, M2, M3 with its neural processor.
Well, actually, yes. The Ai capabilities of M4 will be exclusive to M4 users.
Users who own M1-M3 will have instant outdated products [which is expected as time passes]
I fully expect that over 50% of what MacOS 15 offers as far as AI will only be available to extreme users.
Granted, i will admit. M3 Max/M2 Ultra users who have 128GB of RAM/192GB have been able to work insane LLM and AI projects not thought to be possible on Apple Silicon.
8 GB on a Mac are like 24 GB on a gogl fon. (Tim Apple)
Based on what? A SoC with enhanced neural processing, more memory bandwidth.
I love to see Apple hype something that doesn't benfit any of its current customer for months ahead of the time. That is classic Osborn marketing mistake.
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That is the malarkey of this Gurman rumor. The various x86 computers out there utilize AI to some degree with Windows 11 and without neural processing.
It's not like a future M4 is going to be able too run new AI capacities compared to the M1, M2, M3 with its neural processor.
I'm not surea about that, there were Windows 12 "rumors" again, stating that you will require an AI PC....but no new Windows 12 at least for this year.
I have a 13900k PC if they do that next year i'm gonna be really pissed off.
I dont want to make 2 mistakes buying an ipad pro oled (M3) and a iphone 16 (without IA) this year... Better skip them.
I wouldn’t be so sure about that. I’ve stated since day one that M1’s and iOS devices going pretty far back all have an NPU for a reason.
Will it run faster on M4? Absolutely. But there’s a reason Apple set the floor of performance for the Mac line with the M1.
I think Apple’s big “AI” push has been over a decade in making given their research papers and AI acquisitions.
I doubt it will be chat-GPT-like, but instead advanced features that everyday users will use without even knowing it’s “AI” (take a look at what goes into capturing a picture on iOS).
Based on what? A SoC with enhanced neural processing, more memory bandwidth.
I love to see Apple hype something that doesn't benfit any of its current customer for months ahead of the time. That is classic Osborn marketing mistake.
Its Apple being Apple. Classic. The fact that 80% battery protect is only for 15 users still blows my mind. [when anyone can use a third party solution].
I can see the Max Soc Macbook pro's getting the 32-Core NPU with the 800 GB of bandwidth from the Ultra chips. Trickle down effect.
Practically, the vast majority of what Apple hypes year after year on the iPhone alone most users don't even use.
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I was going to get a 13700K but with all these rumors of the 15th Gen, a new 1851 socket and now this AI talk I’m holding off
I have a funny feeling the A18 Pro will be M4 like. I’m still confused/intrigued regarding the 35 TOPs on the A17 Pro and what effect it truly will have.
iPhone/iPad users may see more benefits of AI
Kinda reminds me of the M1 iPad and how everyone was under the misconception that the iPad with the M1 would get osx or some similar.IMHO the OS matters a lot more than hardware. Judge what is offered after you see it in action at WWDC 2024, not by hype.
This might be the case. M2 was really M1.5 on a smaller process node since the pandemic did kink up Apple's planning pipeline. M3 was supposed to be M2. However, we'll never know since these were all rumors at the point. Probably why the iPhone 14 got the same chip as the 13 while the Pro moved forward. Plus the 15 is one generation behind the Pro model, now there's a "Pro" version of an A-series chip.
And then it doesn't get all the new shiny features when one year later the M5 comes out.
M1 - N5
M2 - N5P
M3 - N3
M4 - N3E
I don't think there were any major kinks, M2 might have been slightly delayed but I doubt significantly.
Every node is getting harder and more expensive to produce. Transistors and wafer costs are increasing, so it's no surprise Apple wants to charge extra (Pro models) for the latest chips.
