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I just wish Apple had decided to keep an Intel based SKU for Macbook Pro and iMac for those of us who actually do need to keep a foot in the Windows and x86 Linux camp. They could brand them differently, so Mac purists aren't offended by the sight of them, but it would stop me having to use an awful Dell laptop for some tasks I do.
 
For those who buy a 2019 Mac Pro to earn a living, this is true; for those who just want a shiny 2019 Mac Pro for bragging rights, either their priorities are a bit off or they just have an excess of spending money (a whole lot of spending money)...

True. I forgot that some people “need one” for nerd cred.
 
You’re joking right? The new MBP Pro and Max are blowing a lot of high end current MP machines away for working pros. Performance/Watt is where it’s at.
Crazy thing is benchmark software doesn't actually do anything but measure benchmarks. Back in the real world, application software and workflows are based around what people do and what people actually do, is run software sometimes on Intel architectures.
 
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I just wish Apple had decided to keep an Intel based SKU for Macbook Pro and iMac for those of us who actually do need to keep a foot in the Windows and x86 Linux camp. They could brand them differently, so Mac purists aren't offended by the sight of them, but it would stop me having to use an awful Dell laptop for some tasks I do.
Well said.
 
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If you have thousands of workstations, you are talking about the concerns of a large business, not a "professional". I don't think anyone would disagree that a a business with thousands of workstations wouldn't care about their very sizable electric bill. But for a business that size, IT management can exploit economies of scale that just aren't worth it for a single professional or small outfit.
He didn’t say they cared about the bill, it was the electrical service to the building couldn’t be upgraded to give them more power.
 
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He didn’t say they cared about the bill, it was the electrical service to the building couldn’t be upgraded to give them more power.

People don’t understand how many CPUs are sold into situations where what really matters is how many you can fit per cubic foot into a facility, taking into account the need to bring electricity and cooling into the building, and that those are two things that have fixed limits.
 
I regret to inform you two that a computer used by professionals to get work done is a workstation. If it’s not hardcore enough for your needs, that sounds like a you problem.

The term “workstation” is completely meaningless. In the 90s, it vaguely meant “runs on MIPS or SPARC rather than a pleb’s architecture”. Today, it might mean “Xeon instead of Core i”. Which is to say: not much at all.
No it’s not.
and you clearly don’t use one, thus you don’t know what you are speaking about.
 
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POWER processors too, though rare.

Now workstation just means much higher specc'd than consumer machines. (More RAM, ports, video) I have a PC that Lenovo calls a workstation, and it can have 11 monitors plugged into it, and 256G of RAM max. It's kind of small for a workstation to me, but it's certainly more capable than most "desktop" machines.
Again NOT.

PLEASE stop speaking about workstations if you don’t know what a workstation is.
a workstation is not just "higher specced".
Sometimes it could even be lower specced (at least in some fields) than an enthusiast gaming machine.
‘components in a workstation are different: CPU, motherboard, PSU (to some degree), case, RAM, storage.
 
Again NOT.

PLEASE stop speaking about workstations if you don’t know what a workstation is.
a workstation is not just "higher specced".
Sometimes it could even be lower specced (at least in some fields) than an enthusiast gaming machine.
‘components in a workstation are different: CPU, motherboard, PSU (to some degree), case, RAM, storage.
Yes yes, and all the ports are made of gold.
 
Again NOT.

PLEASE stop speaking about workstations if you don’t know what a workstation is.
a workstation is not just "higher specced".
Sometimes it could even be lower specced (at least in some fields) than an enthusiast gaming machine.
‘components in a workstation are different: CPU, motherboard, PSU (to some degree), case, RAM, storage.
I think POWER could blow out intel and M1 if it wanted to.. I would take a POWER Mac Pro over mactel or M1. No, POWER is not PowerPC, but a PC with POWER !
 
Again NOT.

PLEASE stop speaking about workstations if you don’t know what a workstation is.
a workstation is not just "higher specced".
Sometimes it could even be lower specced (at least in some fields) than an enthusiast gaming machine.
‘components in a workstation are different: CPU, motherboard, PSU (to some degree), case, RAM, storage.

Not necessarily. The workstations we used to design CPUs at AMD were white box PCs, with off-the-shelf parts.
 
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